#pro autonomy

[ironwoodatl01]

So if someone finds me submissive and breedable and just, does it against my will. I gotta comit to a new lifeform developing inside of me in order to have or feel any form of true fulfillment and control??

No. You gotta commit because the baby is innocent, and aborting the baby would be an injustice to the baby.

I cannot say if keeping the baby would provide fulfilment and control. But it is an option to explore for the female, and if it works out, the abortion by definition becomes unnecessary.

The question for the female, I guess, is whether control, or the 'idea' of control is important.

[gayfeatherfiend]

always found it weird and distubing how easy and common its been for people to think that you, as a person who is X, needs the permission of some other people -who are also X- in order to be part of X community or be valid/"actually X"

Queer examples include:

-nondysphoric trans person is told they aren't trans by a dysphoric transperson

-transmasc is told they don't experience a specific intersection of transphobic violence because transfemmes ALSO experience a specific but different intersection of transphobic violence

-gay cis or binary lesbians who attempt to give out permission or denial slips to other (transmasc, nonbinary, non-cis, mspec, aspec) lesbians

-people who say a certain queer identity or person isn't queer

-young queers who now go online to ask other people for their permission/blessing to identify with a certain experience (i.e: label)

because no matter how much someone argues they have the authority to tell someone else how to identify and self describe, the 🌌Truth of the Universe🌌 is intrinsically: they do not

[mbkitty]

If you’re against adults choosing to get sterilized because they don’t want kids yet you call yourself prochoice or a feminist, are you really pro choice or a feminist?

[honestlynoonecares]

I fucking hate people who reduce pregnant people to a side note in their own fucking lives. Which is literally ever anti abortionist fuck that ever opens their mouth.

They disgust me so SO much. You don't fucking value the life of the person who is actually pregnant, but you'll lose your shit over "the potential".

Get fucked.

Oh oh that fetus could become the person who "cures cancer"..

Well? So could the person who wants to invest in their career and not have a fucking baby? Their lives have value outside of fucking reproduction!!! People with wombs matter! Women fucking matter. Stop acting like they don't.

And if they're not fucking romanticising pregnacy, they're literally just interested in controlling and punishing women. That's it.

If you're anti abortion, then you hate women. There's no nuances to be had in this discussion. Because I'm not talking about your personal choice. I'm talking about denying physical autonomy to people at large. I'm talking about violating their rights. And the delusion that a blastocyst or fetus could ever be regarded as anything other than potentially human; that it could have more rights than the actual real fucking person it's living off of like a parasite, is so ludicrous...so absolutely fucking absurdly offensive and completely dehumanising, that cannot amount to anything other than proof that you hate women.

[mbkitty]

I think the feminist and prochoice movements should focus more on people with uteruses having the right to choose sterilization.

It’s still incredibly difficult and stressful for people, especially women and AFAB trans people, to get sterilized if they don’t have kids and aren’t married, which is horrendous! If someone wants to have their fallopian tubes tied, removed, or their uterus removed, they should be able to. Doctors shouldn’t be able to force patients to keep the reproductive organs they don’t want or need, especially if those organs are causing them harm!

[jangillman]

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