#programmed systems

[unwelcome-ozian]

Sage Part-Unusually wise part who offers timely advice or deep insights. These parts work with other parts such as Manager Part. (Base Programming)

Type 2, Sage Part-A part who has gained deep knowledge through a combination of life experiences, formal education, and spiritual practice. (Spiritual Programming)

Type 3, Sage Part-(Herb) Typically a young part who is competent at soothing other young parts of the system. (Code Programing)

[verosikaism]

Reclaiming post!

hii I am going to be reclaiming the HC-DID term for programmed systems since the person that made it is an awful antisemitic conspirator.

HC-DID means "highly complex DID". It is a term for ramcoa survivors that were programmed to have DID. It exists because the experiences between a programmed system is different than those of CDID systems that aren't programmed.

HC-DID is NOT meant to be a trauma olympics term, it is just a modifier to differentiate the experiences that programmed systems have.

[divinerapturesys]

realizing we’re a RAMCOA system has been only a little upsetting

realizing we’re a programmed system has been devastating

[clovercrawlsys]

they way you guys treat cult survivors in this community is really dumb hnstly. you treat us as both too scary and severe and not as valid as trauma survivors, especially with programmed parts/headmates

for ex. our cousin has an alter whose programmed to make sure she can’t have a safe relationship with others outside the cult, because she was tortured and stuff until that behavior became that alters functionality!! because cult 101 is to isolate the victim, which is what the alter does to keep them under complt control, she also has other programmed headmates for other thijgs that were made to function how the cult needs us to

we do to, tho ours are diff becus we were tasked with other stuff all still for the cult id like to keep nameless

also, stop expecting trauma to go away once a person becomes an adult, that isn’t how it works either, my trauma won’t go away in three years and my voice i was never born with won’t suddenly pop back,

tl:dr - you guys need to treat cult survivors better

because they’ve had enough bad stuff happen, they dont need u being a dick

[unwelcome-ozian]

Jesus is placed in the internal minds of ritually abused individuals for three main reasons. (The there are sub reasons also)

1.) To prevent alters from seeking out Christians for assistance. To prevent alters from understanding the nature of Jesus as stated in the gospels. To place fear in the internal system of the individual of religion, churches, and symbols of Christianity. To ensure demons are shown as more powerful than Christ.

2.) The internal Jesus is to keep separate two sections of alters. The two sections are the day alters and night alters. (Unless there is M.K. programming there is a third section of alters) The alters during the day are: the host alter, the one who works and takes care of most “duties”. A Christian front alter, that may or may not be active in church. A alter that manages people who may be getting “to close”. And if there is a fourth alter this one typically is a reporting alter that will manage crisis.

Night alters are the alters that participate in rituals. Contact family or/and clan members. These alters are often still abused in ritual settings. The night alters are often active from 10p-3a. They are preparing for rituals, summoning, watching each other to ensure no one goes a stray, often continuing the abuse that was perpetrated on them on inside alters.

The task of Jesus is to participate in internal rituals. He will re-enforce to the abused alters he does not care, can do as he pleases, he is too weak to save them, they are too “dirty” for him, the only way he can “save” them is to purify them with sex (rape), and numerous other things that twist the image of Jesus to the alters.

During the abuse of the child there would be rituals where Jesus would appear. These rituals are replicated in the system.

3.) Third task of Jesus is to re-enforce the Trinity to the system. There typically will be a God, and Holy Spirit, in the system. This is often the “three in one programming.”

Three in one programming can go by other names, this is the name I know it as. This programming re-enforces to the entire system Jesus does has a form of authority. His authority is supported by God, who is evil personified, and the Holy Spirit, who lies and twists scripture to perverse levels.

Jesus moves through the system spreading his “gospel” of fear, and confusion. The internal Jesus thinks he is the real Jesus as do many of the alters. To achieve the status of Jesus the torture was extreme, and often done in a church like setting.

Three in one programming has numerous symbols, all of them Christian in nature but twisted to cause deep confusion in the individual. The programming finds it’s strength in the perceived duel nature of God.

If God is good why___? God says no man has seen his face but there are scriptures where people say they have seen the face of God. God is a lair. God advocates the slaughter of women and children, yet the Bible says Jesus loves the children.

There will also be a flooding program triggered. This program can overwhelm the individual with memories. These memories will be ritualistic in nature. The flood of memories will re-enforce reasons God hates them, can’t see them, help them ect.

Jesus is in control of this program. He is the earth messenger of God. Jesus can answer all these questions if you return to the internal Trinity.

Oz

[unwelcome-ozian]

Can a programmed system split introjects from a source that was used as part of their programming (e.g., AiW, WoZ, Disney)? I mean splitting as in splitting the way non-programmed systems would (I may not be wording this well and I'm really sorry).

If I understand you correctly, you are asking if you can have alters from those sources that you don’t believe have been deliberately created as such by programmers.  

In order to form the specific characters in the system, the programmer will use torture methods, quotes from the books/movie, pictures, scenes from the movie, positive reinforcement, and other methods with a specific alter to program them.  Because programmers try to keep track of alters that have been created, they attempt to limit/stop unintentional alters from forming by having the person they are programming be unconscious after the session. This is done with sedatives and other narcotics.  An unintentional alter could take on whatever form the child needed to survive at the time, including introjects from the movies and other media to which they have been exposed.

~Josha

[unwelcome-ozian]

Do you think its unsafe to be friends with other programmed systems? Whats the likelihood of their abusers harming us if theyre being accessed (example two systems who have gov programming, or two systems from satanic cults)

I think it can be safe as long as there are boundaries that are respected by each system. Both systems are working towards healing individually.

I feel that if a system knows another system this can be a great support and a healthy support. The systems must be away from their abusers for this to occur. The risk of triggering one another's system’s should be considered.

Their abusers are likely trying to get them to return. I encourage people to do what they need to do to keep themselves safe. However that looks.

Oz

[unwelcome-ozian]

is it possible to be a programmed system and not be aware of it??

Yes. The purpose of programming (TBMC) is to keep parts unaware of one another so they complete their tasks without other parts being aware.

There may be groups of alters, or one or two alters who know of one another, but unaware of the system. There may be a part who has no knowledge of any of the other parts.

Top level alters are usually unaware of the other levels in the system. The other system levels remain hidden.

A survivor may seek therapy due to mental health concerns and as safety is established and trauma history explored other system members may begin to front.

Oz