Dominant Si: Si users are extremely grounded in the reality in front of them. They focus on what already exists and prefer to deal with concrete realities and facts instead of hypotheticals or abstract theories (the way he takes action based in facts he already knows). they also tend to be highly affected by the past (his past experiences with pm!Dazai).
Auxiliary Te: Te users are primarily concerned with structuring and ordering the world around them in an efficient and logical way. they often feel the need to take charge and bark orders in order to force the environment or situation to the go they way it needs to go. (consider his general persona & how he orders atsushi around when they were fighting Fyodor’s rock ability user {season3 cannibalism virus}).
Tertiary Fi: Fi notes how interactions with others make them feel. It gathers external data and translates it into reactions and emotions. Dominant Si makes Fi less sensitive to external information. Tertiary Fi may be surprising when it comes out in full force, as sudden passionate or indignant objections may seem out of character for the user (Akutagawa is generally calm & composed but can show extreme intensity of emotion regarding things important to him, eg- Dazai).
Inferior Ne: Ne takes in information about the external world around them and uses it to form many different possibilities, it try to rapidly jump from one thought to another, this is contrasted by Akutagawa’s grounded & orderly nature. But he is still adept at handling unforeseen situations; proving the presence of slightly underdeveloped Ne, hence making it the inferior function.
Yes, I typed Mazikeen as 836, her moments of integration to 2 will be even more obvious later. Amenadiel seems too reserved, he broods, he is not a very talkative person, he prefers listening. Why I typed him as a feeler? He was using and manipulating Malcolm, Linda in order to make Lucifer rturn to hell, he lied to Chloe. Is this a Te-way of dealing with problem? he is not as straightforward as he wants to be seen. I initially typed him as ISXJ 631 (or maybe 361). What do you think about Dan?
Te can also use manipulation, the difference is in towards what aim they use it. For a good example of feller manipulation,look at their mother. That is some straight up FJ next level BS-ing her sons. If Amenadiel really did have Fe or was any kind of feeler, he would have considered the humans in his plan, not just gone off looking at them as them as mere pawns or collateral in his quest to take back Lucifer to hell. That is a blunt and direct Te user for you. The fact that he gets so lost in controlling his human pawns, while losing sight of his inferior Fi values is what causes him to lose his wings, his divinity. A tertiary Fi user would be more in touch with their inner values, emotions, feelings and know where to draw the line or be plagued by a conscience (especially if you are an angel). Even as a child, he is said to have been quite a domineering bully which fits more with the description of controlling Te rather than Si, which is an introverted information processing system.
I will hold off on Mazikeen till I am all caught up. Oh and sweet Dan, he is an ExFJ. Right from the first day of setting Chloe at ease to his being the general nice guy around the station. The thing that Lucifer struggles with understanding …why “boring Dan” is likeable. It is because of his Fe. His first instinct is to comfort people, and make sure they know he is there for them. Under stress like with the dagger, he takes decisions which make sense to him in the moment. I am tempted to say that he has low Se which is why Palmetto happens, but over all so far I haven’t gotten much of a grasp of his Ni usage.
- ENTP Mod.
ENFP Note: These two are discussing the TV series Lucifer in case the rest of you are all “HUH?”
Anon wrote: Hi! I'm an INTJ, and I have a struggle, to which I'd like to read your opinion. So my problem is, that I tend to be too rational and detached. I often dismiss information input that isn't rooted in well thought out rationality, or doesn't connect to some kind of scientific approach,or rely too much on data and cold, hard facts. - This was always the case in my life, but somehow, now at the age of 26, I started to feel somehow inhuman - not in the good sense.
Essentially, I came to the realization that I probably missing out being human, and operate like a calculator or computer. It started to feel souless. When I realized this, I reviewed my whole life, and also realized that in some form or others, I always craved the touch of humanity, but always ended up either shying away from it, or deemed it too vague or unstable to let it affect my psyche.
But then there was those times, when I read a really deep book, or saw a very soul touching piece of theatre, and I remember seeing the colors of the World around me more vibrant, felt as the wind touches my skin, realized that I live. And then felt too vulnerable and started to fear that if I continue down this road, I won't be able to operate as successfully and efficiently as I can without this. I started to fear that If I show some kind of weakness, I Will fail.
But somehow, I seem to be unable to let go this part of the human existence. I feel drawned towards it, inspecting it with curiosity, much to my unpleasure, sometimes I secretly interested in this dimension more than the perfect functioning formula of life where everything is best calculated. So, now I decided that I want to explore this, and stop with missing out being human for once and for all. I want to live fully. It caused me so much isolation and loneliness - even within myself.
Also, I realized that disregarding this dimension can hold the danger of missing out pieces of information that would normally make me more efficient in decision making and would make me a more developed and more high quality being. So the question is: In your opinion, what should I do? How to engage with my self, with my being? Thank you in advance.
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It sounds like everything you've described falls under the purview of tertiary Fi development. There is already information in the study guides about it, so you can review and learn on your own.
One of the main lessons of type development is that each of your functions has something valuable to contribute to your life. This implies that going out of your way to reject the development of a particular function means missing out on something very important to your self-actualization and general well-being. Resistance against function development eventually turns your personality unhealthy because of becoming imbalanced or extreme.
You are now feeling the pain of this imbalance. You have spent too long neglecting your feeling life. Yes, it is indeed the F component of personality that allows us to feel fully human, to understand what it truly means to be a human being.
Art is one of the major ways people express their feeling life. It is a relatively safe and acceptable form of exploration and expression. Art holds the possibility to move and touch you very deeply. However, it cannot substitute for the other major pathway of F expression: close interpersonal relationships. This pathway is more risky because there is more uncertainty and unpredictability. But keep in mind, the greater the risk, the greater the reward as well.
You are INTJ? To be INTJ is to pursue your aspirations with a strong and relentless will. This should also apply to Fi development. If you allow fear to hold you back, you're not going to get very far very fast. I'm not saying you shouldn't progress safely; I'm only saying that you have to commit. Be fully willing to challenge yourself to open up your heart, so seek out and embrace every opportunity to feel.
Remember: Ambivalence is an enemy of type development.
Anon wrote: Hi, I am INTJ female and I have issue opening up to people. I can open up to very few people easily and I have lasting bond with them. But it is very difficult for me to open up to others. I am trying to improve on my social skills.
Issue is, people from office or many social situations expect me to open up, not sure why this default expectation. Maybe because I am female, not sure. If I don't socialize much, they do take it in negative sense and somehow label me as dark, attitude issue etc when I am no such thing.
I need to worry about this as this people are from my office and though there are people who know me and support me, I do not want to create ill relation with anyone in office just because of misunderstanding. I am not socially bubbly. But I am not arrogant too. Its just that I have calm, sometimes detached demeanor which I can not help much. I do not get panic easily nor I get excited easily.
Question is, should I really need to see this as issue and solve this, at least fake things for sake of it or push people to accept me as it is. Is it normal or do I have any issue like social anxiety?
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Yes, societal expectations can be sexist. Women are generally expected to bear more emotional labor and they are socialized to be more people pleasing. These gender expectations often operate implicitly in professional environments. And failing to live up to expectations can unfairly slow down your career advancement. How to deal with sexist expectations? Communication. Disarm people's implicit biases by bringing them out into the open, talking about them, and helping people understand your perspective.
Male or female, not everyone is a "bubbly" person. Everyone should be given enough freedom to be themselves within reason, even in the workplace. However, you have to choose the right methods of achieving that freedom. You need to speak up for yourself, make your strengths and weaknesses known, and teach people how to approach you in the way that you prefer. And you have to explain to them what your actions mean so that they don't get the wrong impression or misunderstand your intentions. Yes, it is a bit unfortunate that introverts are harder to read and generally have to do more to make themselves understood. But these difficult conversations are worth the effort if they result in more freedom to be yourself.
It seems that lack of communication is where things are breaking down for you. Perhaps you should read up on emotional intelligence and communication skills, see the resources page for recommendations. Something becomes a psychological "issue" or "problem" when it holds you back in life and interferes with personal growth. Look at the bigger picture: reflect on what you really want in life and how your wants influence the goals you set for yourself.
For example: Do you WANT to open up but can't? Do you WANT to have better relationships with your colleagues but can't? Do you WANT people to have a more favorable impression of you but you can't achieve it? If you answer "yes" to the above, then you've got an issue, obstacle, challenge, or problem to overcome for the sake of personal growth.
But if you don't actually want those things, because they are not important to you at all, then live your life the way you want. Nobody gets to dictate your wants except you. Keep in mind, though, that people are self-deceptive. When they aren't able to get what they want, they can convince themselves that they don't want it, rather than putting themselves through the hard work required to get it. If you're lying to yourself, it's a defense mechanism, which is a problem.
Being narrow/closed/small-minded is a psychological hindrance and it's a common developmental issue for Introverted Thinkers. It prevents you from broadening your horizons and realizing your greater potential. How much do you care about realizing your potential? With Ni, INTJs should care a lot about it. Healthy Ni+Te should care a lot about being held back by something that is well within one's ability to control and change. How can you fully own yourself and come to know your true power when you're cowering from a self-inflicted problem?
Social anxiety is frequent and persistent fear about socializing poorly, including things such as: getting negative attention; embarrassing yourself in social situations; getting mistreated, rejected, or ostracized; losing the respect or love of people you care about; being judged and dismissed as flawed or inadequate; etc. I don't believe you meet the criteria for social anxiety.
However, being too closed-off to the social world can be indicative of a different sort of fear, usually fear of vulnerability. People fear vulnerability for a variety of reasons, oftentimes it is related to control issues in TJs. It sounds like you need to reflect on why you fear vulnerability and get to the root of it.
Nobody's saying that you have to reveal everything about yourself to everyone. Personal and professional should be kept relatively separate. But if you aren't even able to: speak up for yourself as necessary; express your feelings and emotions when appropriate; let people know about your needs and wants when appropriate; make reasonable requests of people to empathize with you; help people understand you better; etc, then you don't even possess basic social skills and you ought to make some improvements on that front. It's not about "being fake". It's about learning how to express yourself in a way that properly balances the needs of self and others.
