#thawfest

[loutypeep]

Old Eretlout thingy. The two of them enjoying their thriumph at the Thawfest. Eret won by fraction of time, and Snotlout came right behind, with an injured leg that Eret took care of

Full nsft thingy bellow

[noctusfury]

What if Snotlout Had Lost the Thawfest Games? (HTTYD Theory)

Well met, my fellow Furians! Welcome to another HTTYD post! Today, we'll be doing another Snotlout post, and today's topic is about something that I've had for a long time but am only now writing about.

What would happen if Hiccup had won? And what would happen if Snotlout had lost the Thawfest Games?

I had watched the "Thawfest" episode multiple times and every time I did, I had always asked myself these two questions.

And, of course, every time I watched this, this scene would pop up:

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Spitelout: Did you ever hear the story of when I almost lost the Thawfest Games?

Snotlout: No. I never did.

Spitelout: That's right. Because IT NEVER HAPPENED!!!

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Spitelout: No Jorgenson has ever come close to losing the Thawfest Games. Don't you be the first.

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This scene was interesting. Not only does it reek of fanatic Sports Dad vibes, but he's also threatening Snotlout and demanding that he comes out on top.

Personally, I highly doubt that the Jorgensons have won EVERY SINGLE Thawfest Games in Berk's history. I suspect this is just a myth stated in Spitelout's delusional grandeur to spur Snotlout into winning the games. What I DO believe, however, is that Spitelout has won every Thawfest Game in HIS youth, as Snotlout has. Maybe even their grandfather??? I don't know. We know next to nothing about Berkian history, so it's all speculation and headcanons for us weebs. 🤓😢

Needless to say, Snotlout is under a lot of pressure, and Spitelout is in a stormy mood at the moment. And his threat to his son seemed to imply that, should Snotlout lose, all Helheim would break loose.

Now, what would this entail?

Well, if you want to keep it PG-13: grounding, spanking, taking his favorite weapons, throwing all his medals in the trash... anything petty that I can see Spitelout doing.

If you want it dark and edgy: abuse, disinheritance, or even disownment.

Now, you're probably thinking, what's the difference between being disinherited and disowned? Simple: being disinherited means losing your piece of the pie in the family's wealth. And since Snotlout was the only son, he'd get the lion's share of it as the next Head of the family. Being disowned means the complete severing of familial ties and Snotlout would no longer be a Jorgenson and wouldn't have a family cell to support him; he'd be left to his own devices. In Viking society, that is a BIG deal.

Now, would Spitelout even go as far as to disinherit or even disown his own son? Mmm... unlikely. As far as we know, Snotlout is the only male in Spitelout's core family, so unless Spitelout hands the heir title over to a relative, it's doubtful that Spitelout would even do such a thing even if he were super furious. Plus, I also doubt that Snotlout's mother would allow Spitelout to go that far.

So honestly, abuse would be the more likely outcome, and could explain Snotlout looking to be in utter terror in this next scene:

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Snotlout: [Whimpers] I can't lose. I can't lose. I can't lose, I can't lose!

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Of course, I could very well be wrong and Spitelout WOULD disinherit or disown his son. We just don't know since that event never happened and Hiccup stupidly gave up his winning spot for the idiot.

Now, here's my headcanon.

My Headcanon

Snotlout loses the Thawfest Games, and Hiccup becomes the winner, being the first person in decades who's not a Jorgenson to win the Thawfest Medal.

Snotlout is then left to deal with the thundering storm that is his father, Spitelout, who storms off back to their Hall. When evening falls, Snotlout deals with Spitelout's curses, tirades, and physical and verbal abuse.

Hookfang, seeing that his master is being harmed by his father comes to the rescue and attacks Spitelout, either injuring him or even killing him.

Because of this incident, Snotlout is forced to leave Berk in exile with Hookfang until things can be settled. Which kinda fits the theme of the "Cast Out" episodes in Defenders of Berk.

Conclusion

So yeah, that's my theory and headcanon. What do you guys think? Think any of this is possible? Or do you have your own theories and headcanons? Please share! I can't wait to see what you guys come up with! 😀

Thanks for reading this and I hope you have a marvelous Wednesday!

Long Live the Night!

— Noctus Fury

[toothbrushfingers]

god chaotic hiccup is so funny

i’ve been cry laughing at this for like 5 minutes

[thereweredragonshere]

Disk Horse: not only did Astrid deserve to win Thawfest, but Hiccup would’ve been her #1 trashtalking vuvuzela blowing stan the entire event, and we have been ROBBED of this by DreamWorks 😒😠

THIS oh my god girl should have kicked ASS at Thawfest smh😞

[revive-the-fandom]

I count 12 medals here, & he’s like 15 at this point so if thawfest happens once a year (in spring, when it thaws) … the kids start competing when they’re 3 years old?

[jackshiccup]

who else beefing with their cousins like this

[toasterdrake]

anyone else feel like the thawfest episode of rob could've worked better w astrid and snotlout's conflict instead of hiccup?

like ik hiccup has his 'nerd gets a moment to level the playing field w his jock bully' thing but its lowkey painful that astrid gets nerfed. i'm sure she was champing at the bit to beat snotlout just as much as hiccup

instead she got to be hiccup's moral check + cheerleader, even though she's primed to be:

1. a 'lousy winner' (i'm certain in usual circumstances she would uphold viking honour or some such code but can you imagine how frustrating it would be to lose by a hair's breadth every year against snotlout?!) (this is not to diss him i'm just thinking of astrid's view of him)

2. easily capable of competing with him and getting a step-up with dragons introduced (seriously how did one boring loop win against a balance walk)

3. have a rivalry with snotlout (jorgenson v hofferson hatred)

4. emotionally intelligent enough to realise winning is less important than supporting her friend

[autisticfanperson]

WOULD YOU PEOPLE BE HAPPY ABOUT HICCUP WINNING SOMETHING FOR ONCE AND NOT TRY TO PUSH HIM INTO LOSING JUST BECAUSE HES HYPED ABOUT IT?? LET MY BOY BE HAPPY ABOUT WINNING SOMETHING FOR ONCE ☹️