#wafa sultan

[religion-is-a-mental-illness]

Stolen childhood. Betrayal of trust.

[religion-is-a-mental-illness]

You may know them better by the names Muslims call them on social media: traitor, whore, NATM (Never A True Muslim).

Or perhaps what they’re called by privileged, first-world intersectional wokes: hate-monger, Islamophobe.

[nisalm]

"Usted puede creer en la piedras mientras no me las arroje a mí".

–Wafa Sultan.

[tachyon-heresy]

important and cogent. i see a lot of liberals defending Islam as the “religion of peace”, and I see a lot of conservatives fearmongering over foreigners, but I don’t see much of anyone promoting the voices of the defectors of Islam who have seen it’s destructive effects firsthand. One can be critical of Islam without being overly critical of Muslims. How many times have you and your buddies casually engaged in Christian-bashing? 

[laurabonillag]

No soy cristiana, musulmana, ni judía. Soy un ser humano seglar. No creo en lo sobrenatural pero respeto el derecho de los demás a creer en ello.

-Wafa Sultan.

[farawayfrommainstream-blog]

Brother, you can believe in stones, as long as you don't throw them at me.

Wafa Sultan

[unchallengedsymbolofvictory]

A lot of tumblr people who ignore terrorism from the confort of their bedrooms should watch this.

[inshadowz]

Arab-American psychologist Wafa Sultan versus programme host Dr. Faysal al-Qaussem and an as of yet unnamed studio guest (tips as to his identity would be welcome) on the subjects of, among other things, the Muslim-world response to the 2005 Danish caricatures of Muhammad, as well as Hamas' aggressions against Israel, and whether one, from the point of view of the Koran, can argue that it is wrong and unjust when Hamas members are killed when Israel responds to their missiles.

A minor sigh of exasperation: Why is it that dating video recordings, dating and linking quoted news articles, as well as including the names of the people involved, happens just about never? People who are seemingly eager to "bring forth the truth" are more often than not frustratingly sloppy in handling details.

Edit: Apparently, by cross-referencing with other videos, it appears that the programme is "The Opposite Direction" on Al-Jazeera, broadcast on Mar. 4, 2008. The name of the bearded gentleman, however, still escapes me.

A complete line-by-line transcript of the subtitles are included below.

Participants: • Wafa Sultan • Dr. Faysal al-Quassem, (Al Jazeera programme host) • Unnamed studio guest • Also a few notes by Youtube user Joniversity [Wafa Sultan] All religions and faiths, throughout the history of humanity, have been subject to criticism and affronts. With time, this has helped in their reform and development. Any belief that chops off the heads of its critics is doomed to turn into terrorism and tyranny. This has been the state of Islam, since its inception, and to this day. Islam has sentenced (its critics) to prison, and whoever crosses the threshold of that prison meets his death. The Danish newspaper exercised its freedom of speech. Liberties are the holiest thing in the West, and nothing is more important. But if Islam were not the way it is, those cartoons would never have appeared. They did not appear out of the blue, and the cartoonist did not dig them out of his imagination. Rather, they are a reflection of his knowledge. Westerners who read the words of the Prophet Muhammad: "Allah has given me sustenance under the shadow of my sword," cannot imagine Muhammad's turban in the shape of a dove of peace, rather than in the shape of a bomb. The Muslims must learn how to listen to the criticism of others, [Note by Joniversity, original poster of the video] Including Thuderf00t's [Wafa Sultan] and maybe then they will reexamine their terrorist teachings. When they manage to do so, the world will view them in a better light, and consequently, it will draw them in a better light. The reactions of the Muslims, which were characterized by savageness, barbarism, and backwardness, only increased the value of these cartoons, and gave them more importance than they merited, simply because they proved that these cartoons were true, and that the message they were conveying was true. The Muslim is an irrational creature ruled by instincts. Those teachings have deprived him of his mind, incited his emotions, and reduced him to the level of an inferior creature that cannot control himself or react to events rationally. [Studio guest] God help me. [Note by Juniversity] He won't. [Wafa Sultan] Why are they upset about what is going on in Gaza, while the Koran says to them: "They shall kill and be killed." So here they are - killing and being killed. What's wrong with that? [Studio guest] Leave the Koran out of it. If you want to talk politics, go ahead. [Dr. Faysal] I beg you to stick to poitics. He talked only about politics. [Wafa Sultan] Dr. Faysal, you know that you cannot separate Islam from politics. Islam is not a religion, but politics. You must let me express my views the way I want. When you called me, you didn't say I was not allowed to discuss Islam or the Koran. Islam says to them that they will "kill or be killed," and here they are - killing and being killed. So what's wrong with that? They want to be martyred and to meet their black-eyed virgins, and Israel is merely helping them to get what they want. What's wrong with that? If you want to change the course of events, you must reexamine your terrorist teachings, you must recognize and respect the right of the other to live, you must teach your children love, peace, coexistence, and productive work. When you do that, the world will respect you, will consider you in a better light, and will draw you in a better light. Hamas chose this path, and you have to pay the price for your choices. When you decide you want peace - I am sure that Israel wants peace, but as long as you keep reciting those teachings, which are full of hatred, rancor, and terrorism, you will be unable to make peace with others. You must recognize and respect Israel's right to live. You must teach your children love, peace and coexistence. Only then will there be peace. [Dr. Faysal] Do you dare to say that the number of people who died in the Jewish Holocaust is even one less (than what they claim)? Do you dare to say that? Why don't you dare to even touch on Jewish history - let alone on Jewish religion and sanctities? Why do you flex your muscles only against the oppressed Muslims? [Wafa Sultan] Why do you want me to deny historical documents that confirm that the Holocaust took place? If there was no proof, I would deny it. But I cannot deny history, knowledge, and documents, confirming that the Holocaust indeed took place. Why do you want me to deny the facts? [Dr. Faysal] From what she says, it is clear that she has no problem denying the holy books, but she is adamant about not denying historical documents. [Joniversity] There we go again. "Holy" books are untouchable. But history is after all only one of those science things. [Wafa Sultan] Can you as a Muslim deny the massacre of the Jews of the Bani Qureyza tribe, by Muhammad and his followers? Did you invite me to the show to hear hollow speeches, which have been around for 1,400 years? [Studio guest.] Allah be praised, we have an identity and a culture. [Wafa Sultan] How can someone who believes in killing people who do not pray possibly criticize liberties in the West? This is a farce. What past is he defending? Is he defending the invasions and lootings? [Studio guest] I am defending the past of the Islamic nation, which was the beacon of knowledge for the entire world... [Wafa Sultan] ...polygamy, beheadings, chopping of hands and feet on alternate sides, accusing people of heresy, and drinking camel urine, as a cure for all ailments - [Note by Joniversity] Muhammad Miracle Cure (from the Hadith) "Uraina tribe came to Medina and its climate did not suit them. So the Prophet ordered them to go to the herd of camels and to drink their milk and urine (as a medicine). [Wafa Sultan] is this the path he is defending? [Studio guest] No, I am defending a magnificent past of a magnificent nation, which was the cradle of knowledge and civilization, at a time when the most that people in the West could do was to catch a rabbit and scurry back to their caves. This nation has made the greatest contribution to civilization and humanity. Our religion is not complete without recognition of other religions. We are the ones who have called for tolerance and respect for religions.