Fiction Doesn't Work How You Think It Does

Fandom Purity Culture has gone too far. They/It. You can call me Lakes

[takes-o-lakes]

Howdy howdy, new discourse enjoyer on the block. I have opinions. They are probably different to yours!

I think that though fiction can effect reality that it’s not 1:1 and people should be allowed to do whatever they want in fiction as long as they’re properly warning and keeping it away from folks who don’t wanna see it. I wouldn’t call myself a Pro-shipper purely because there are some things I think shouldn’t be written about but I am far closer to their side of the camp than the Anti-shipper side.

I’m neurodivergent in more than one way, I’m an adult, I’m Queer, and I’m white 

DNI if my replying would violate YOUR DNI and you’re gonna whine about it

I try my best to tag common triggers but I’ve got the memory of a goldfish, kind reminders are appreciated when I forget

Also i’m gonna use this blog to appreciate the few problematic ships I do have that I would get harrassed for on main

[problematic-polls]

Do you think watching loli/shota porn means that a person is a pedophile?

Yes

No, but it is a red flag

No

It's more nuanced than this

I don't know what that is/See results

Do you think watching loli/shota porn means that a person is a pedophile?

yes

no, but it is a red flag

no

it's more nuanced than this

i don't know what that is/See results

Voting ended onOct 11, 2024

[artistformerlyknownas90skid]

Funny how they never apply this same logic to furries to equate them to zoophiles. Because they know it isn't true. Cartoons are just cartoons. Worry about people hurting real kids.

[takes-o-lakes]

i have some very unfortunate news about that for you

[fuckofffanpol]

A List of Problematic™ Things

(All Takes I Have Actually Seen)

• Childhood Friends to Lovers?  Practically Incest! • Two characters share the same (extremely distant) ancestor?  Literally incest!  Bad and wrong! • Platonic familial affection and intimacy?  Suspicious. • “Sworn Brothers”?  You guessed it!  Incest.

• Height/size difference?  Suspicious. • Two 17 year olds?  You should have just made them adults. • But also aging up characters is Not Allowed. • 30+ year old with a much older character?  Ew, age gap! • Puppy crushes?  Illegal.

• Enemies to Lovers is Abuse, • and you should never redeem or sympathize with Villains/Abusers/The Bad People.

• Monsterfuckers?  Zoophilia.  Or necrophilia, if it’s vampires or whatever.  The point is you’re wrong.  And bad.  >:(

“Wow what can they read?  Only the fluffiest Coffeeshop/Soulmate/HC?”

• Coffeeshop AUs?  Romanticizes workplace harassment.  And gentrification. • Soulmate AUs?  Amatonormative.  Supports predetermination. • Hurt/comfort?  Why would you want to hurt the characters?  Freak.

Also:

• Straight ships are heteronormative. • But queer ships are fetishizing. • It’s very simple!

And even:

• You need the original media creator’s consent to write fanfic.  Anne Rice was Valid, actually!

[lifblogs]

Uh… Um… Ships aren’t illegal.

[athingofvikings]

Ships are ONLY ILLEGAL IF...

The Vessel switches off their location-transmission devices, thereby making themselves a HAZARD TO MARITIME NAVIGATION, in order to ENGAGE IN ILLEGAL ACTS.

The Vessel is FRAUDULENTLY DISPLAYING a national flag that is NOT OF THEIR REGISTERED PORT OF ORIGIN.

The Vessel is otherwise engaged in ACTS THAT VIOLATE SOLEMN MARITIME LAW, and may face fines and prosecution in admiralty court for their offense in their port of origin or nation in which the offense was registered.

Other than that, no ships are illegal.

[prismatic-bell]

Actually I regret to inform you some ships ARE illegal. Sailing a ship you know to not be seaworthy may constitute insurance fraud, which is very illegal.

[todays-problematic-ship]

Today instead of a problematic ship, we present you the guidelines on how to avoid the most common mistakes that result in a ship becoming problematic.

[ridiculus-mus]

“The Vessel is FRAUDULENTLY DISPLAYING a national flag that is NOT OF THEIR REGISTERED PORT OF ORIGIN.”

You mean... that... I have to tag my ship???

[fuckyeahnaturalphilosophy]

For the purposes of Age of Sail fandom, false flags tags may be winked at as a legitimate ruse de guerre, but true colours must be flown before firing on another ship.

Moreover, excuses may be made for fire ships, but never for flame wars.

[just-antithings]

antis be like: wow, the last fandom I was in was so toxic for no reason, I can’t imagine why, people got so upset bc my friends and I were harassing people and calling everyone pedos for no reason, no idea why anyone would be upset by that. anyway, I hope this new fandom I’m joining will be more friendly and welcoming!

[allshipsareok]

[hjbender]

“But it normalizes—”

IT’S TEN FANFICS ON AO3 FOR A FANDOM THAT NOT EVEN ONE-SEVENTH OF THE POPULATION OF PLANET EARTH KNOWS EXISTS. IT ISN’T “NORMALIZING” ANYTHING, KAREN. STOP CLUTCHING YOUR PEARLS BEFORE YOU CHOKE YOURSELF

[ceekari]

If you're going after fanfic authors instead of Hollywood directors/bestselling authors, you aren't worried about what's being 'normalized'.

You just want an easy target.

[just-antithings]

from a general fanfiction server. they must be fun at parties /s

🙄🙄🙄🙄

[kawaii-pigeon]

Well at least they took the advise and made their own space. For as lame as that space probably is.

[dead-discourse-archive]

Wdym I can’t write about the psychological horrors being inflicted on oneself or others??

Can’t have shit in this house, even Silent Hill got the cut ✋😩

[takes-o-lakes]

fucking your own clone is OFFICIALLY banned by this server, how sad

[fandomeldersintheirthirties]

Anti: “It’s not true and it’s very disrespectful to say antis care about fictional characters more than real people. 

Anyway, proshippers die challenge.”

[antishipping-deactivated2024012]

once again: if you’re telling someone to die over lineart, then you’ve proven that you do care about fictional characters more than real people, wherever you realize it or not.

[crabbybun]

Just gonna leave this here…

[the-proship-hellhole]

Welp. Looks like Tumblr is no longer safe for proshippers.

This post just crossed my dash, and I figured I should let y'all lovelies know.

Tumblr, per their own godsdamned guidelines, is now allowing for the incorrect flagging of fictional content as CSEM.

And the screen caps from the guidelines

Despite my being the resident asshole of the proship community, I don't want y'all to get banned/blogs terminated/harassed.

So please spread this around, and stay safe lovelies. I don't know how well this will work, but I don't want to take any chances.

~ Mod Niecest

~~~~~~~~~

Mature Content

Tumblr is a home for art and artists. This includes welcoming creators who publish mature content. While this type of content—including text

[unsolids-your-snake]

I dearly, fervently hope that reports sent to this link just get sent to the bottom of the queue, because they're labeled by the reporter as "not harm to a real child"

Honestly since people cannot control themselves when handed a button that allows them to report harm to real children and they're desperate and honestly addicted to abusing that ability and making it hard to combat actual harm to children, this would be the ideal solution, UNLESS they start deleting blogs over it.

But please be aware of this in case your blog gets yeeted because you hornyposted about a 17yo anime girl

[kink-tomato]

This zine, and I cannot over emphasize how funny this is, is for Anne Rice’s Interview with the Vampire

[getvalentined]

These people blocked me on both Twitter and Tumblr, and then someone used a burner account to go off on me on Twitter. This person insisted that I was singlehandedly responsible for the project falling.

I made one comment, and it was this:

No clue how my single comment did this. But okay.

[bubby-simp]

There’s nothing wrong being proship There’s nothing wrong being proship There’s nothing wrong being proship There’s nothing wrong being proship There’s nothing wrong being proship There’s nothing wrong being proship There’s nothing wrong being proship There’s nothing wrong being proship

[cosmicsproutcake]

just saw an anti on twitter say "No one jerks off or sexualizes fictional murder be fucking serious" and ngl my brain short-circuited a little. Like the echo chamber! Imagine pretending an entire sub-genre of porn doesn't exist to fit your narrative. Out here acting like Guro isn't a relatively to wildly popular thing lmao

[all-de-fandoms]

Lmfao as a religious trauma survivor and a product of Christian fundie indoctrination myself I am in full support of calling fandom wank "purity culture" and the use of the word "puriteen" as well actually.

It perfectly encompasses what purity culture was. It wasn't just about "no sex before marriage"; it policed every fucking thing you did and forced you to walk on eggshells your entire life so your Magical Sky Daddy didn't clutch His heavenly pearls at your naughty behaviours.

Holding hands with someone you weren't married to? Gateway to sin. Making eyes at someone of the opposite sex? Gateway to sin. Thinking "impure" thoughts about someone else? Thoughtcrime Gateway to sin. Wearing the "wrong" type of clothes? Listening to the "wrong" kind of music? Having the "wrong" sort of values? Enjoying the "wrong" kind of media? All of it was seen as a stepping stone toward being a sinful godless heathen (and to some people it was essentially just as bad).

And it wasn't enough to just avoid BadWrong Behaviours, either. In my ex-community you were expected to express your disapproval of it and be well versed in the theological how's and whys. Does any of that sound familiar?

Purity culture at its core is so much more than "wear this purity ring and pinky promise to Jesus that you'll never have sex until you're married" and if you didn't realise that while you were there you weren't paying attention.

[damnfandomproblems]

In 15+ years in fandom I've never once seen fics that portray abuse as good. Actually the majority are written by abuse survivors. When I see antis complaining about "romanticizing abuse" I challenge them to show me one fic that portrays it as good. Usually they never answer, or give links to a probably-troll fic that's My Immortal levels of terrible and use it to "prove" their case.

[unorthodoxdeity]

Poll!!!

This is a little out of the blue, but I saw someone created a shipping debate demographic poll and I wanted to do the same. I added more questions that were of personal interest to me, so this one is longer.

Shipping Debate Demographics

This survey is entirely anonymous and based off of personal interest. Please answer with honesty and spread this survey around as many circl

Spread this as you please. I haven't figured out a date that this will end but that's probably farther off in the future. This poll is entirely anonymous and just a personal interest thing. I will be compiling all of the results and posting them if anyone else is interested too.

[knicks-knacks]

It’s hilarious to me when people complain about AO3 and its policies, and what they allow on the site - but it’s ESPECIALLY funny when people complain like “Why can’t the freaks make their own site and just go there?”

Sweetie… AO3 is the site for that. Y'all invaded our space.

Wattpad and FFN still exist. Go there. They’re as shitty and G-rated as you want. You can’t have the luxuries that AO3 offers if you’re gonna be a little bitch about its policies. Imagine walking into a strip club and complaining about the alcohol and naked ladies when there’s a god damn Dennys next door you could have gone to. Christ.

[error-404-fuck-not-found]

who tf they think the “our” is in Archive Of Our Own??? it’s freaks babe. AF3. archive for fucking freaks. if you don’t go here that’s a you problem

[mysweetoddbird]

this is so funny to me bc like. yeah obviously and thats what it seems like yall want to happen to ao3 too. fandom is an overwhelmingly queer dominated space but when you start moderating content guess which community starts jumping ship ? and guess which community is going to get fics flagged bc of false reporting ? you cannot seperate censorship from queer issues bc censorship will always be used against us. you cannot ban “immoral” content bc that is so subjective and will always inevitably lead to ppl mass reporting queer fics

[lux-astralis]

a few reminders because i’m tired and angry

fandom is a hobby, not a form of activism

adult women aren’t inherently creepy for being in fandom and having hobbies apart from raising babies and doing taxes

the vast majority of people pushing back against the worrying trend of instigating harassment over fictional characters and relationships aren’t incest supporters or pedophiles, actually

liking a m/f ship doesn’t make someone a dirty heterosexual invading your space

preferring gay ships doesn’t make you ‘’woke’’ and good

no one owes you a disclaimer that they are a good person who recognizes that their favorite fictional villain’s actions are evil and that they don’t condone those actions irl

liking a fictional villain is in no way comparable to advocating abuse/murder/genocide/etc and you’re a fucking idiot if you believe that

just because a woman is attracted to a fictional villain doesn’t mean she’s promoting toxic relationships or going to end up in a toxic relationship. assuming women can’t tell fiction and reality apart stinks of internalized misogyny 

some rando’s a/b/o fanfics have none of the level of influence that popular tv shows and movies spreading propaganda have

no one owes you a detailed description of their traumas and mental health problems

abusive relationships are not the same as enemies to lovers ships

y’all need to chill the fuck out over people, relationships, actions and events that don’t actually exist and learn how to enjoy and discuss them like normal people

fandom is a hobby, not a form of activism

feel free to add more

[lazydreamer19]

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