Hua Cheng: Dianxia knows Iâm obsessed with him; this is the worst day of my lifeâŠ
Xie Lian: San Lang is obsessed with me; this is the best day of my life!
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Hua Cheng: Dianxia knows Iâm obsessed with him; this is the worst day of my lifeâŠ
Xie Lian: San Lang is obsessed with me; this is the best day of my life!
when i was a young teen i was taken in by the "fujos are just like men who fetishize lesbians" rhetoric until one day i saw a tumblr post on the subject that said "can you imagine if fandoms were full of men who were extremely invested in the inner lives of female characters and their relationships with each other" and my opinion immediately did a complete 180. that post conjured such a beautiful world
great reasons for accusing students of using AI:
you're racist and think there's no way racialized students could write an essay this good
you need to decrease your class average because it's the end of the semester and you haven't met your target average
one of your TAs gave out too many As and you don't want to regrade anything
you haven't redesigned your course in years and students have gotten advice on how to write their essay from past students
you're pissed off at a student with disability accommodations for making you do extra work
you want to feel powerful
you got into a fight with your wife
you want to bond with other professors over how lazy kids are these days and swap juicy stories about students crying in your office
you want social media clout
I have no sympathy for the class of people that's suddenly complaining now that the tear gas is being thrown at them. where tf have you been all this time in the third fucking reich
for those unaware today india experienced one of its biggest protests in half a decade. there were protests all over the nation for various causes but the major one was in delhi. all we asked for was the resignation of the education minister because he's failed the students of this nation time & time again. but we were met with brutality, the police had barricaded the main site of protest (jantar mantar). metro stations were shutdown, the public was restrained from reaching the protest site and all the adjoining areas had signal jammers to make sure the crowd had no access to constant updates. they had us blocked from all the sides. they were lathi (baton) charging students from one side & releasing tear gas from the other. you couldn't walk 100 m on streets without having a tear gas shell thrown at you. there were many students, women & kids bleeding â some from their head. some couldn't walk anymore. the police had removed their nameplates & acted with full impunity to resort to unprecedented levels of violence. they were pelting stones at us, beating up people for no reason, forcefully detaining them and attacking us constantly with tear gas & rubber bullets. they wouldn't let you exit either. the crowd was peaceful & looking out for each other yet they were met with violence. i made a friend who was all alone & she asked to join me & my friend because a policeman wouldn't leave her alone. he constantly prodded her for personal info, invited her back to the jeep saying they have food there, wouldn't stop following her around. you couldn't call or ask anyone for help, we were left to fend for ourselves & be on a constant lookout if you did not want to be beaten up to death by police. all for what? asking a resignation? shame on this country.
Youth-led movement calls on education minister to quit in one of Indiaâs largest anti-government rallies in years
More than 10,000 protesters braved tear gas and baton charges in their largest challenge yet to PM Modi's government.
I feel a perpetual deep-seated alienation from most people in academia because everyone behaves like cops and hall monitors, and then I log onto tumblr to see the exact people who do the alienating posting about how emotionally difficult it is for them to report students for (possibly) using AI to write an assignment Â
wishing hell was real so people like this could be sent there
someone in a pjo community said that fans exist to make bg characters more complex and like. Yeah actually im not mad that people overanalyze characters like will drew travis dakota etc and fanonize them because im normal but also that is what fans are for. Some charas are going to be boring and i think its fun to make them Not boring anymore so they are Enjoyable and Not boring
conversely, fans also exist to flatten complex and interesting and good characters into 1 dimensional archetypes (this is about the 'annabeth's boyfriend'ification of percy jackson)
"hazel levesque is such a mom friend!!" Shes 13-14 for majority of hoo do you hear yourself. She is not the "mom friend" for a bunch of 15-17 year olds stop being racist
percy jackson really said i have no idea who i am and i met hazel 30 minutes ago but i will Kill Octavian if she asks.
Once again having feelings about Hua Chengâs snake eyes moment (Book 5):
And just how well structured I find TGCF as a whole. The parallels in this novel drive me insane. I just cannot see this moment without also thinking about the moment in Book 3 where Xie Lian actually reacts to an injury, and how much I freaked out about it.
Because these were supposed to be facts, right? Xie Lian doesnât react to pain, and Hua Chengâs luck is always perfect. If you are going to establish your characters to have some core, unassailable truth about them, this is EXACTLY how you should use it. These were two of the most worrying points in the entire novel for me, because if youâre going to establish something that has always, always been true, and then weâre suddenly in a situation where itâs not?
All bets are off. Anything can happen.
And placing one of these moments each before the final climactic moments of books 3 and 5 respectively is such an excellent move. Book 1 does this too, actually, in letting us see Xie Lian lose his temper for the first time ever to our knowledge. It elevates our estimation of the threat Qi Rong poses to our status quo there just as much as it raises our estimation of the threat Bai Wuxiang poses in the latter books. Itâs a great way to give us a climax that matters not only to the plot, but to the characters on a fundamental level, because thatâs where theyâve been shaken: at what we took as part of their foundations.
But moreover, I LOVE this moment for Hua Cheng before the final showdown, because of his reaction to it. Heâs shocked and shaken enough to even pause, before moving on. Being completely without luck isnât new to him, but itâs not something heâs fought through since the very beginning, since the origins of his devotion. And itâs understated in the grand scheme of things, but I am Not Normal about the fact that he goes into this showdown with the evil thatâs been haunting them both since the beginning in the very same state, fortune-wise, that he was in then, and he doesnât hesitate any more now than he did then.
Lest we think that his centuries of going in with an advantage have made him any less insane or willing to just make his own fortune. We make a point here of proving thatâs still true, at the most critical moment.
Idk it just means a lot to me. This moment is small but it does a lot.
Heaven Officialâs Blessing S2 | Ep1 | Xie Lian
Guys GUYS.
I was SO DELIGHTED by this opening.
Do you know what was happening in the book narration during this transition?
Xie Lian spends several days in bed after the socialization and physical and emotional exertion of the past few weeks. This was one of the first of many real âohâ moments for me. In which we see that weâre not just kidding around about that whole pain-doesnât-really-register thing, we are actually, really depicting a character who is very, very bad at taking good care of himself, in multiple ways/situations. As a general trend. Even (especially) when he needs things like rest or treatment, he does it in the most minimal way because he just doesnât see a reason to bother doing more when he can survive it either way.
And we took a solid amount of quiet, dialogue-free time out of our 30 minute episode to show Xie Lian waking up slowly, to show specifically the food offerings coming into focus out of a state of kind of fuzzy perception. We take a moment to just sit with Xie Lian as he does something so mundane as getting himself a drink of water, and give that as much screen time and importance as a meaningful act as we spend on some charactersâ introductions. We got a rare moment of seeing Xie Lianâs face out of its quietly pleasant default expression, when there was no one around to see him. We got, for the very first time, the barest hint of a sad, serious undercurrent to the gentleness while he was alone.
The show is beautiful here, but what struck me too is that Xie Lian looks truly tired here. He looks like getting up is heavy. He looks like heâs letting that show for the first time weâve ever seen on screen. And they did that on purpose, because thatâs whatâs happening here in the story, whether viewers know it yet or not.
Do you know how insane it makes me that we are blessed with creators who so deeply understand the character and are so faithfully rendering the book, that they made a point of communicating all these important things here? Without even pointing it out? Just left it there for us to see. For us to KNOW. For people to come back and notice later after we have the whole show and/or after theyâve read the book?
There are a thousand moments like this in this first episode alone. So many clearly intentional moments where the creators are making a point to render the sense of all these tiny little moments in the narration or Xie Lianâs asides that may not have made it into the show dialogue. Theyâre there anyway. This is a show made by people who love the story. They are rendering the story into a donghua, whether weâre supposed to be noticing all these things yet or not they are putting them in there. And I am so psyched for this season.
Apologies but I am about to be so not normal about this for the next few months.
I think one of the reasons why we get so many "Xie Lian needed to learn a lesson and the fall of the kingdom of Xianle was that for him" takes is that a lot of people do not deconstruct the prologue of the first book after the first read.
Because those takes are very similar to it and the prologue is the legend perpetuated by the Heavens. It's the propaganda. It's people perpetuating it going:" Here is what happens when people try to change things, they get punished...", even though he was right and if they had helped, none of this would have happened.
Xie Lian is a similar scapegoat to Wei Wuxian but Wei Wuxian died and Xie Lian became the persona non grata so that other people, heavenly official and sects can perpetuate the system without challenge.
Oh 100% yes! Itâs a big deal that the prologue is blatantly misleading, by the time youâve heard the details of the real story.
One of my CLEAREST memories of the many, many âoh shit we are doing things with thatâ moments â in which we realize that a recurring detail or âjokeâ actually does have backstory and thematic relevance â I had reading TGCF books (arcs) 1 and 2 was in book 2 when we reach the scene where Xie Lian refuses to apologize for saving a childâs life, and we see exactly how much heâs been reduced in the retelling.
The prologue/propaganda version reduces his thoughtful, well-reasoned discussions to these pithy one-liners that are easy to repeat as part of a story and present as naĂŻve, unfounded opinions.
And years later, I still remember the feeling of reading book two and realizing, for the first time, that all of his kindness, his consideration for the feelings of others of any class, his consciousness of his own power and the effect that kind of thing had on people? He ALWAYS HAD THAT. Everyone, even the narration, would have you believe so many of his fantastic, thoughtful, insightful qualities, were the result of âlearning somethingâ where he used to be naĂŻve.
Meeting a young Xie Lian who was not only less naĂŻve than anyone else had told you, but also not nearly as naĂŻve as even Xie Lian has been indicating himself? Narrative-shaping right there.
There had already been implications in book 1 that Xie Lian wasnât ok and that not reacting to pain was ultimately going to be more about trauma than the comedy Xie Lian has learned to try and make it, but realizing that heâs learned to make fun of himself on an ideological level? In addition to on a physical one?
THAT was the point I sat up and went âoh, something is going to go WRONG wrong here in this flashback. There is SOMETHING ELSE going on here.â
And then the whole flashback and major portions of book 3 and basically the rest of the novel was more or less about the disconnect between the official story/the version of you known to the public, and the true/private you. For our main characters both, and many, many side characters as well.
We even do this in BOTH FLASHBACKS. The contrast is even more stark, in the second, between the actual circumstances and motivations behind Xie Lianâs banishment, and the neat, comfortable, easily-digested version that most of heaven accepted for centuries.
And then after everything, we END the novel on âwhat legend says about these characters/godsâ as in, the story commonly told by people who donât know all the details. You know, a parallel bookend to the prologue. In case it wasnât already clear that thatâs the type of unreliable version of the story the introduction was.
The fact that learning the *real* story via flashback so dramatically overturns our initial impressions and operating understanding of the story â learning that we also, the reader, have been susceptible to the in-narrative propaganda and the simplest assumptions â is such a huge part of this book, structurally and thematically, to me.
One of the best examples of this is that the fandom insists that Xie Lian's lesson to learn was that he 'couldn't save everyone' and I kid you not like- The prologue goes:
And the actual scene goes:
the absolute difference in sentiment and tone and theme and message in both of these scenes are the biggest clue in on the fact that.... you really should put any stock in the prologue as a real indicator of Xie Lian's actions and the course of the fall of Xianle at all.
There is a certain subsection of TGCF readers who call Hualian toxic as an insult because they hate toxic ships and Hualian, and then there is another subsection of readers who call Hualian toxic because they like toxic ships and Hualian and thus want it to be toxic. I ignore the former on principle, but the latter⊠listen. I get it, I do â I enjoy many a toxic ship. It is often far more interesting to me when a ship is toxic than not. But the themes⊠Youâre overlooking the themesâŠ
Taps the (admittedly rambly) sign.
Hualian are in a stupidly healthy and well-balanced relationship founded on mutual care, respect, and deep understanding. All the more so for how situationally unlikely that should be. The whole world and their circumstances are perpetually trying to set them up for some kind of unbalanced power dynamic or toxic consideration of their own needs/image of the other before the other person themself. And they refuse. Their relationship is all the ridiculously healthier for all the ways that a toxic dynamic would honestly make more sense than whatâs actually happening there.
MXTX can write toxic relationships. Hooo boy can she mess up a dynamic. And it is fun as heck. But as OP says, the most thematically powerful and relevant (and frankly, core to the entire message and progression of the entire book) dynamic to give to these two, specifically, was one that refuses to be toxic, even when everything was pushing for it.
It was a real spring cleaning of my thoughts about why some of the tropes that apply to these two remain fundamentally compelling to me despite the way that they accompany toxic dynamics in 90% of the fiction theyâre in. Because I this case, they didnât and we got to see what that looks like.
Oh and while Iâm on the topic: âXie Lian excuses Hua Cheng being unrepentantly evil because he loves himâ is a shallow interpretation of the text regardless of whether you are citing it as a criticism or a selling point.
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Xie Lian is a man with a strong sense of right and justice, and has lost his respect for respectability and lost his faith in the established system to attain these things. One of the reasons he likes hanging out with Hua Cheng so much even early on is that he recognizes him as a like-minded individual in this.
The main difference is that Xie Lian is polite, because heâs an old man who doesnât feel like expending the energy to argue 90% of the time. Itâs easiest to just let people think what they will and smile through it. Whereas Hua Cheng ranges from blunt to playing into the evil ghost king persona for fun, because as a guy whoâs never had the option to be accepted no matter how hard he tries, in life or death, itâs easiest to just let people think what they will and smile through it.
Hua Cheng has a stronger moral foundation than like 90% of Heaven at least, and the reading OP mentions is what you get when you take the heavenly propaganda (meant to be deconstructed by the reader) at face value.
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hua cheng looks so fond, my heartt
Am I the only one that thinks Xie Lian would be absolutely killer if in the modern AU he wasnât down on his luck in a homeless way but rather in a âI run the streetsâ kind of way and he rides a motorcycle and has tattoos of his prison numbers on his neck and ankle and does all that âbad boyâ stuff with a sweet smile and absolutely 0 ill intent.
Oh no, he didnât kill the king like in the book. He was head of the secret service and shot the fucking President. Lan Qingqiu was PISSED.
That guy? Yeah, he was the mentor to Ban Yueâ YEAH, HER. THE LADY THAT WIPED ARIZONA OFF THE MAP. NOW THEY JUST THROW CROISSANTS INTO THE GRAND CANYON OF SINNERS TO FEED THE ANGRY SOULS.
Hua Cheng wants him so bad every time gege picks him up with the motorcycle.
Because as fine as being a modern day scrap collector would be, I like this way more
Watch me share with everybody smol cute adorable hualian ideas related to my poetry so I can sneakily warm y'all's heart towards poetry and have you wonderful people fall in love with it cause poetry is amazing and deserves all the love in the world
Now I am really really lost into thinking of all the poetry Hua Cheng would write for Xie Lian (including spicy poems cause we all know about the sexy murals)
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So many possibilities
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Don't leave this is the tags @sanflower0w0 let's talk about this I LOVE THIS
Imagine illustrated poetry and yeah at this post-canon point Hua Cheng is actually smug about drawing his god and he's okay with showing Xie Lian cause his handwriting is shit and for once he's glad about that
But then Xie Lian does learn to read it and he manages to read his poems and some are so obscene but insanely beautiful it's the cave of ten thousand gods all over again
(also ten thousands boners)
And then, Xie Lian is too mortified by the intense devotional lust poetry to actually admit that he can read it, and so he just pretends to be admiring the art that Hua Cheng is so proud of... while his mind is just like
oh wait what he wants me to bring him to his knees with my sword to his lips what does this mean WHAT DOES IT MEAN?????!!?!!?
But after a while after seeing reading so many of Hua Cheng's deepest (kinkiest) desires he can't deny his beloved the pleasure of having his dreams come true so like
He very subtly starts doing some of the things his San Lang wrote in his poetry!!!! At first he tries to hide some of them in the middle of other sexy fun activities but some of his poetry is just so detailed and specific (ahem roleplay) he just gives in and goes all the the way into it
(and into San Lang)
Does Hua Cheng pick up on it at some point?
I'm just thinking about Xie Lian following the hints in Hua Cheng's poetry, and with every new experience, Xie Lian discovers how much he loves the way Hua Cheng is so responsive to it all.
And Hua Cheng sees his shy husband transform slowly into the soft dom royal highness of his fantasies
I wonder how Hua Cheng would find out... Maybe he wrote down some secret super specific kinky desires that he would absolutely never dare to speak of, and then Xie Lian tries it out... What could it be?