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@theoryplebmemes
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Maybe hiding in plain sight, on YouTube, will work!
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I mean, am I right???
Just putting it out there - about theorypleeb
Tw. Predatorial behaviour, abuses of power
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I am super frustrated seeing that this person with a history of abusing and grooming younger women is starting up a YouTube channel, because they clearly want to be a rising star in the Left. It is super disgusting. I have been in reading groups led by this person, and my experiences have often entailed some form of abuse of power or another from them towards women, queer/trans folk, and racialized folks. This person literally pulled off a major tantrum in running a co-op / research space by silently gatekeeping participants from these bookclubs and seminars - this happened in more than one occasion, ultimately shutting the entire thing down.
I am not sure what to do other than at least say something here: Dave / Lisa / theory pleeb or theorypleeb (on YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, Tumblr, and Instagram) is an abuser. And they have been given plenty of chances to look after themselves and take care of the circumstances around them, but they have simply not and excused themselves from any responsibility to their behaviour. They were asked to take a step back from these kinds of endeavors to reflect on these things around August 2018 - and I guess, somehow they still think that they are in a place to be putting out YouTube content with all things consider only a few months later. This is especially rough after seeing the whole Dr. Bones situation go down.
Probably sometime I will slow down and elaborate on exactly what went on on my end, as there is only so much I can speak to this without stepping on other people’s experiences surround theorypleeb
This is horrific, I am tired of people utilizing intellectual gatekeeping to exclude others - utilizing social capital for other means that clash with a pedagogical dynamic.
Not only is this in ethical from a purely pedagogical standpoint, but it is wrong, in the sense that power should not be held against one who is in an mutual academic space.
Reading this stuff makes me sick.
I WOULD SERIOUSLY APPRECIATE MY PHILOSOPHY AND THEORY INVOLVED FOLLOWERS TO SHARE THIS
[I am adding these comments again just to give more of a picture of this issue, because it hits pretty close to home]
Just for the record, Dave Jonathan/Lisa Hemmingway of Cascadia Network and Victory Farm shut down all its seminars and practices because they weren’t able to let go of power and recognize their failure to be either professional or humble in how they navigated interpersonal relations in the group. Since their personal relations with board members got more critical, they single handly and without any consul shut down the cooperative and its functions.
Not only did I clash with them two years ago and last year over them brushing over marginalized minorities, but also over their defacto leader position and centralization of power that came with - evidently, as I partook on the Cascadia Network’s Phenomenology of Spirit reading group this year, the same issues appeared again and seemed to play a behind-the-scenes role on how people interacted in the group. For instance, when me and my colleague were the only people of colour in the group, the assumptions that dominated the conversation were very transappearently the universality of the white maleness of participants - it is not surprising there has been a history of such dismissiveness ultimate affecting who is willing to participate in the group. Ultimately Dave wasn’t able to manage it and now they have deleted some record of it.
Definitely one of my personal quarrel has been that it is crucial for any radical practice and pedagogy of philosophy to include marginalized communities who would benefit most and maybe add much to what we are learning - I feel that this was something always under erasure or dismissal for the sake of academic mastery or expertise (which we have learned much about the master/slave dialectic, so it is not a surprise that discontent came with this determining factor of the group). These determining factors are also constraining the freedom or notion of Philosophy we have developed in these circumstances - the academization and professionalization of philosophy over the last three hundred years has put a devastating pressure and regulations over whatever bares the name of Philosophy, and it is ultimately in instances like this that such an issue becomes evident in everyday life.
One of my friends who was involved in these seminars noted the following (note these comments were done prior to Dave using they/them pronouns): “My posts have been deleted from a FB page mocking Jordan Peterson (from MONTHS ago, like how fucking sour can someone be?)
Uninvited from a Hegel reading group. The sophisticated reasoning here is that “finishing Hegel” means having understood him, that Philosophy is about means-to-ends, success, and powering through a text, that if the moderators do not recognize their fervor in you that you are therefore less than a person (ableist) such that your participation does not create surplus value for the mods to consume (capitalist model of production of knowledge, sophist model). Not to mention that everyone who wasn’t as white as their sneakers felt displaced, non-academic intellectuals felt displaced.
If you create spaces under the rubric of inclusivity and then self-righteously exclude people then you are literally dangerous and anti-community.
I wrote this whiteboy a letter about this sort of shortsight. All the letter did was make me a target for exclusion.
My experience with Dave Johnathan has been one of encountering someone who, in order to hold a communal space, must hold more power than others. If power is threatened, fight or flight comes on - not dialogue. When there WAS dialogue, it was disingenuous: one received the gloss that a CEO or a rhetorician would give. Dialogue implies accountability, and accountability implies that you change your (un)witting possibly toxic behaviors.
During the time in which I DID participate, when I was stupidly FAR LESS willing to commit labour to a philosophy producer (sophist), I was told off in argument by Dave: “analytic philosophers have problematized the abstract/concrete distinction so using those terms critically isn’t really acceptable (note, this sophistry re-asserts the very fucking distinction in its assertion (rendering me as abstract and him as concrete). To digress from pedantics, the point is that this is NOT true, because the motherfucker is NOW reading the Phenomenology of Spirit and utilizing the distinction nearly every step of the way. The point is that he is willing and able to simply use rhetoric when he is threatened to dissuade people from challenging him. This is not thinking behavior, and that’s why it produces violence.
This fellow, to be fair alongside plenty of drama and smoke in the air, willy-nilly left on a vacation without warning the hard and fast reading group that he started, under the impetus that we would immediately resume, and then, upon returning, willy-nilly cancels it for everyone, citing personal shit… Only to be found operating the same group, exclusively, without several of the former members (women, trans, poc). Note: We have been reading this text for like 5-7 weeks and each reading is ATLEAST 3-6+ hours depending on how megabrain you are… That is ALOT of labor from ALOT of people simply taken for fucking granted.
The group utilized this method to purge itself down to: white men. Whose first voyage into “going their own way” included blaring music whose main hook was the N word, and creating a peculiar American atmosphere where “going hard in the paint” (whatever the fuck this is supposed to mean) is representative of what it means to sympathetically engage a philosophical text. This is the EXPLICIT creation of an atmosphere whose MEANING _IS_ TO BE EXCLUSIVE.
Lastly, the person on blast here specifically, vindictively, had a vendetta against specific members of the group, because they were brought into the fold by another individual. All were tacit targets in this behavior.
A group acting in secret as to avoid accountability is what the right-wing does. An identity that cannot be maintained without exclusion and oppression is, quite formally, “back in the dark ages”. It’s in a Master’s position and having never, truly, “felt the fear of the Lord”, traipses across the land as if it is ALL purely FOR. IT.
Y'all realize that this is middle-class white supremacist shit right? Coming from white male intellectuals? Y'all should know to be WAY the fuck more careful with the power that you give yourself the right to - especially in this day and age. I’m literally embarrassed to the point of cringing at how blatant this shit has been to “outsiders”.
This is rude. This is sophisticated. This is ruthless. This is vindictive. This is racist. This is cisnormative. This is status-quo academic farce. This is manipulative. This is lying.
Creating safe spaces and heeding ACTUAL otherness, and not just the capital O otherness that you read in your sophisticated books, is a life-long task and a goal bound with honour.
For a Philosophy group, of all things, to take the turns that it did at the hands of the bad captains of the discourse, speaks VOLUMES to the ongoing death of actually Thinking - actually knowing how to encounter someone OTHER THAN YOU.“”
I’ve been purposefully keeping my input here limited, as my experience with Dave/Lisa was deep, complicated and painful. However at this point I’ve received enough therapeutic help to gain a compassionate perspective separate from my own rage and sense of betrayal at their behavior. I justified, protected and excused this person for many years. They disclosed many severe traumas to me, and have diagnoses of some rather severe mental illness and I allowed this “context” to excuse their actions. However this person has a long history of seducing young naive women (of legal age, at this point, but they also have a legal history with this kind of shit) in group settings. They have been founding some kind of philosophy-oriented group every few years for awhile now, and abusing their power within these groups to attract younger women. I was 19 and had never even dated anyone when I met them. They attempted to sleep with me the second night after we met, without knowing my age, and when I refused used this as a tactic to distinguish me. - I was “not like the other girls” and “respected myself.” I was a “pure white lily” - clearly some gross leftover ideology from their fundamentalist upbringing. They also expressed that it would be nice if it were “the old days” and they could run my life, and routinely for years talked shit privately about feminism, other women, etc. Although they did express hesitation about dating due to our age gap, they admitted this was only due to public optics, and proceeded to perform very nuanced gaslighting and manipulation for the next three years that kept me involved in their projects, seeking to expell me from social groups whenever we had relationship difficulties. Usually by manipulating other people into doing it for them. Involved, or absorbed, rather - this individual would frequently guilt and coerce me into involvement by degrading anything in my life that didn’t revolve around them, while gaslighting me into the idea that they were teaching me how to be an independent adult and scholar. I admit they did help me gain some opportunities, but also retained the knowledge of how to operate within academia, rendering me dependent on their help. They used my skills as an artist/academic for clout, sometimes WITHOUT permission, as with the recent Jordan Peterson conference, which I attended despite having been ostracized from TICO/CN. A fellow attendee complimented an essay I had written - uneasy, I asked how he had encountered it. As it turns out, Dave had used my writing for the conference’s promotional page, after ceasing contact and threatening a restraining order if I attempted to contact them. The details of this relationship are unpleasant. I was obviously not healthy or stable during it and was kept so busy/exhausted, while being subjected to a constant rewriting of my experiences, I have difficulty remembering many details. I remember feeling constantly something was very wrong, however, and kept records of some of the most blatant emotional/verbal and a few occasions of physical and sexual abuse. My appearance and friendships were controlled, and I was often used to do editing for Dave’s academic work. I was a board member and founding member of Turtle Island/Cascadia Network, although when any interpersonal difficulties showed up, Dave would erase my affiliation. Even though I had (for free) designed their logo, and promotional materials, and contributed to the very idea of the non-profit. Most importantly, I’d like to address the abuse of power alluded to above, by which Dave seized complete control of TICO/CN, ostracized everyone who disagreed with them, and “purged” all the POC/trans/women members: After the third attempt to expell me from this non-profit , via a personal text essentially threatening to close everything down publicly if I didn’t abdicate my board position and cease attending the Hegel reading session (as stated above, we were halfway through the book, having done a significant amount of labor already), it actually happened. Dave changed all the passwords to our accounts, including the website I had contributed a significant amount of labor to setting up. They manipulated two other board members, A and B, into viewing this as “Dave just needs a break” and did NO work to make any final legal/financial arrangements for the 501c(3). They kicked the final board member W out of his shared home with Dave on Victory Farm and cut off contact with him and I. I attempted to damage control by reaching out to board member A. She was able to set up and mediate a final board meeting. During this meeting we were able to get W and I a small amount of financial compensation, for his property loss, and for me because I had been promised a travel grant. W ended up walking out of the meeting because of Dave’s behavior. Board member B ended up berating me for “manipulation” and saying shit like “can’t you let us read a goddamn book in peace?” Which convinced me Dave was giving a very different account of all this to his Chosen White Philosophy Bros in secret. Finding out about the secret group was painful, to say the least, especially since, before this disaster, Dave had claimed they were taking a vacation and thinking about taking a less public role so they could “heal” and “work on myself.” What was even more painful was finding out through another individual (who Dave lied to and used to fill W’s spot on the farm to make rent) that Dave appeared to be intimate with another young women. An 18 year old. A STUDENT. At the University he was then an adjunct for. They also, according to this other individual, continued to exclude POC and trans people from their activism, and have repeatedly attempted to capitalize off of the intellectual labor of others in the interest of their newest cult-like group and their “seminars.” ______ I could say more. This person has legal allegations for sexual violence being filed against them. They have been given multiple chances to take accountability by multiple communities. We have all been incredibly patient. I’ve protected and excused them for years, and invalidated other people’s negative experience with them. For that I am deeply sorry. They need to stop and ACTUALLY do the healing work they claim they want to do. They need to publicly take accountability. It may be the only way they will change this behavior. They e left a wake of social damage and traumatized women behind them for too long. _____________ Dave, if you end up reading this: You can’t run from karma. I’m tired of being your PR person STILL after everything you did and I’m not sorry for telling the truth. I loved you and I forgive you, and hope things change. But they have to get worse before they get better. You can’t say you’ve changed if you just keep running from people you’ve hurt. You’re a good fucking damn adult. Grow up. Take a moral inventory. ________
This is FINE
Shout out to theory pleeb's infamous management of Leftbook pages
reblog if ur a disgusting piece of shit
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You said it, PETE!
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