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Personally I do think that sometimes non-hockey fans can end up mischaracterizing Shane and Ilya because they don't know enough about hockey/hockey playstyles
The Ilya we see in Heated rivalry would not be throwing the first punch, he's not an enforcer. Ilya is a star center and a Pest. He wouldn't be doing his job correctly if he was punching players every other game, it would end up with not enough ice time to let him be the playmaker he's paid to be.
But being a pest can be playmaking! Find a player to bait, emotionally push them just enough that they try to fight you, and then get the fuck out of there before the ref gives you both penalties. This gets your team the power play. There is probably someone on Ilya's line dedicated to helping him get out of the fights he starts, and finishing them for him!
I also think this is also something that Shane would respect. Ilya is good at it and it's a good strategy for his team. I don't think Shane would see it as some dirty tactic, because Shane probably thinks everyone with a brain can see it for what it is! He probably thinks everyone should be able to see that being an asshole is a tactic for Ilya, that it's something to ignore and not fall for, that it's a strategy and not personal beef.
I think Shane's more disappointed when a Metro falls for it. Shane sees it as Ilya set up a Looney Toons ass obvious trap and one of his teammates ran into it. Why be mad at Bugs Bunny when you can be mad at your defenceman for falling for a fucking Bugs Bunny trap.
Like how do you even. Fathom that
Shane loves his personal space. Ilya also loves Shane's personal space.
[...] Shane found himself pushed back from the railing, against a wall. Rozanov’s mouth was pressed hard against his, and his hands gripped his arms roughly, fingers digging into his biceps. ㅤShane felt panicked. This was super fucking dangerous. And stupid. And confusing. And… ㅤShane kissed him back, just as angrily. Because fuck this guy for doing shit like this. Hiding away all night on a fucking rooftop, smoking a goddamned cigarette in the dark like the worst cliché of a brooding heartthrob. Making Shane feel bad for winning an award that he completely fucking deserved. And then, on a whim, pressing Shane against a wall and kissing him like he would die without Shane’s mouth on his. Kissing him until Shane’s senses were full of hard muscle pressed against him and the taste of cigarette and the slick heat of Rozanov’s tongue in his mouth. ㅤWhat the fuck.
"heated rivalry could happen in any world. hockey's not unique"
no
even if yes then well it is in hockey so now what. now what.
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Ok time for me to talk about one of my favourite unexplored areas in heated rivalry. And that is the specific Experience that Shane has of being the kind of player he is, as in being THE best and bringing in multiple cups, and playing for Montreal. Like. Like I cannot express to those who have never been near it what the hockey culture in Montreal is like. If you think Sidney Crosby is Canadas Beloved Darling, if he had done for Montreal what he did for Pittsburgh he genuinely would be a god. Like I’m not even kidding Montreal would start a new fucking religion if a hockey player ever did what Shane did for them in the books. THREE CUPS? Two of them back to back? After an over 15 year drought? They have the best hockey player in the world on their team? yeah statues are going up shrines are going up like he would be the fucking Pope of Montreal. Actually no he would be the goddamn Beyoncé of Montreal. Like I need you guys to go look up what the bell centre looks like when the habs play a home game. I need you to look up what it looks like when they play an away game and EVERYONE GOES AND WATCHES IN THE EMPTY ARENA. And they’re so loud it registers as a MINI EARTHQUAKE. The hockey fan culture in Montreal is truly unique in that it’s uniquely fucking insane and I would LOVE to see how that affects Shane seeing as he would be basically viewed as their Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. Like to Montreal he is the (hockey) messiah come again.
people in my notes making me think about hr AGAIN but honestly the biggest sign that the habs metros would close ranks around shane is that THIS year in THIS political environment the montreal canadiens org was perfectly aware that the ONLY correct answer to all the questions ABOUT heated rivalry was: of course a gay player would be welcome here
and i say the org on purpose. idk exactly how coached guhle and jevans were before they were asked but nick on tout le monde en parle was definitely absolutely 100% prepared to give exactly the answer he did on an outlet that hits the quebec market specifically, and the answer was: emphatically, without reservation, yes. that speaks to the player (i can think of several nhl captains who would never have gone on local market tv to give that answer), that speaks to the team's culture (if it wasn't at least a little bit true, communications would probably have figured out another way to pay lip service--see the ottawa senators), but above all else it speaks to montreal: at the end of the day, the habs captain is on local, french language tv saying that the team would be welcoming to and supportive of a gay player because that is what the city wants to hear.
I know you're not a heated rivalry blog so no worries if you don't wanna talk about it, but something I've seen people talk about wrt Shane being iced out of the team is that it'd actually be BECAUSE of the fact that the Canadiens carry more meaning than one player himself. I guess the theory is that because Shane made himself a story and stand out/bigger than the team identity, he had to go. Personally I disagree with this theory because I think his personal story and life being given precedence over what he did for the team's legacy itself with the cups would be worse, but I'd love your thoughts
i did watch the show, because it would be insane of me not to watch the hockey show made by certified guy who went to my high school jacob tierney, but tbh the fanbase was designed in a lab to get on my nerves, so i mostly stay away.
short answer: boooooo tomato tomato tomato that's mtl slander get out of my house
long involved navel gazing answer: first of all that absolutely stinks of people who want the storyline to be justified (for whatever reason they might want that) so they assume the conclusion and work backwards.
so obviously the closest real life comparison we have to shane's position is pk subban, who, being Black, was the constant scapegoat in certain elements of the press and the fanbase, but who (despite that attempted scapegoating) was and is utterly beloved by The City at large. like this dude was the non stop target of press guys like jack todd who still want every hockey player to be a cardboard cutout in public (lest they be accused of having "character issues"), but he was larger than life anyway, thrived in the spotlight, and regularly had his name chanted by the bell centre faithful. he "made himself a story" constantly, because he was electric and loud and expressive. like, the pk trade to nashville is probably what rachel was mad about when she wrote Villainous Montreal into the long game, let's be real. i personally think pk's been spending too much time being wealthy in the united states lately, and he's had some dumb takes about e.g. wayne gretzky's politics that i wish he hadn't said out loud in public, but all that aside, i am 100% confident that if he went to the habs game tomorrow and his face appeared on the jumbotron for 1.4 seconds, the whole crowd would stand up and delay the game for several minutes.
pk subban, for all his and (and carey price's) brilliance, won zero stanley cups.
and somebody wants to tell me that a three-time cup winning captain, a franchise hero, a man whose place in the rafters would be secured before the age of 27, could be dropped from the montreal roster--for reasons unrelated to hockey, mind you--without the city going so berserk that the book would have to change genres??
habs who win are canonized. we all know this. and the montreal canadiens' history being so intertwined with that of a literal political and cultural revolution gives us, frankly, an outsized interest in underdogs. we fucking love an underdog, man, we love fighting the english, we love overthrowing the catholic church. i am completely convinced that a three-time cup-winning habs captain getting outed against his will would activate a level of montreal-ness about said captain never before seen in the modern era. responding to the injustice of him being outed would be folded right into the franchise's whole identity instantly and without hesitation. a gm who traded him after that would be run out of town, pelted with rotting produce.
and the fact that none of these repercussions are handled in the books just tells me that rachel fully does not understand what the relationship between montreal and its hockey players actually is. obviously, randoms reading the books/watching the show can say whatever they want to justify the storyline, that's their right. but im gonna hate it and make fun of it because mfs are talking shit about my city.
"responding to the injustice of him being outed would be folded right into the franchise's whole identity instantly and without hesitation" this is absolutely it. it'd be folded into mythology. the captain who was outed against his will, the hero who brought the cup home three times who was made a target—god can you guys even imagine what would happen when they realized the commissioner was threatening him? montreal fans are like, practically desperate for a reason to get mad at the league and this would be the perfect time, even beyond the shane of it all
prev you misunderstand. front office might do some stupid shit, but they are not immune to The City. the men rachel based her barely fictional coach and gm on aren’t just gone from the franchise, they’ve got huge black marks on their names. they were failures. And like someone else pointed out last night (not tagging just to not bring them in if they don’t want), the final straw for the gm may very well have been that he drafted a player who had committed sex crimes. the team went to the cup final and drafted that guy in the same year, and marc bergevin got buried. my fundamental point is that a book that wants to handle the fallout of the climactic events of tlg is not a romance novel anymore, and reid apparently doesn’t have the chops, the cultural awareness, or the curiosity to get it right.
i know it makes for easy blorbo torturing and putting shane through the emotional wringer purposes but i gotta draw a line in the sand in this "the metros mistreated shane his entire career and they were cruel to him" thing.
from his rookie season, from the day he stepped foot in that locker room, shane was loved by the metros.
people picture it as if they never included him, or never liked him, or never ever treated him well. in the world where i can accept the insane premise that shit went down as RR wrote it going down, we still gotta tether it to at least some realism.
and some realism is that shane hollander's boys love him. he's the greatest fucking thing to them. he's their generational superstar. he's their captain who led them to three cups. and before all of that, he was their rookie.
he was hazed with the rest of the rookies during his rookie year. but it was soft hazing because he's a generational superstar. he was like their little brother and their friend. he's the guy whos gonna lead him to the cup, baby, thats our fucking champion, thats our rookie-of-the-year, thats our holly
even if we consider that shane isn't neurotypical and maybe doesn't navigate every social situation perfectly, we never see on camera that it's enough to affect his relationship with his team.
and if he did do shit that was strange, they'd just find charming. thats their weird shane. thats their holly (hollywood if they wanna be super dramatic about it and hes done something crazy). he has an intense pre-game schedule, don't bother holly. he's crazy about his fucking diet, but it's fine, thats just holy.
they don't bully him, they don't disrespect him, they didn't...fucking, mean girls him. if they didn't respect him, he would have never led them to cups. that's not how locker rooms work. that's not how sports work. that's not how the borderline cult-like culture of professional mens hockey works.
to survive being a montreal canadien you have to be able to stand under dozens of portraits of the titans of your sport that you’ve idolized for your entire life, themselves framed beneath poetry about trench warfare, and then you have to go out in front of 21,000 people who turn your arena into a cathedral on a random Tuesday in January, and you have to somehow find a way not let it either inflate your ego to the point of god complex OR eat you alive. the ones who came before you won twenty-four stanley cups but a huge number of the people singing and chanting your name either weren’t alive for or can’t remember the last one, so the whole thing has taken on an additional layer of myth, btw. good luck.
watching the Habs' playoff run has been some of the most fun I've had watching hockey, ever 💙🏒 I've mostly been a casual fan of whatever Canadian team is playing but safe to say I'm ready to call this MY TEAMMM!! excited for next season!! :' )
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arber + the top line, saint bernard - lincoln
my final heated rivalry thought of the night is i do genuinely think it exists in this weird space of requiring you to both be a hockey fan and not know anything about hockey. schrodinger's hockey fan. you need to know about hockey because half the stakes aren't really explained to you at all. see: hockey culture/homophobia. see: the montreal-boston rivalry's unique significance. etc. but you also need to not know anything about hockey because if you do then you look at the long game and go: montreal would not do that. ottawa would also not do that. also why are the 1oa and 2oa going to world juniors twice. why is no one throwing hands at ilya for being that close to their injured captain on the ice.
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