beware: trans discourse

formerly titled transandrophobia-exempt. Alia, She/they. getting too focused on discourse and wanted it on a seperate account and feed. I think the way tma/tme are being used and the denial of transandrophobia are harming the trans community, who need to center solidarity, not speaking over eachother, and antifascism. feminism includes everyone. finsexual transfem.

[hunny--hunny]

"decentre trans men" when were trans men ever centred. show me. show me sources. show me what time in history trans men were centred. you cant.

[angelandreus]

it is so vile to me that whenever I like a post criticizing transmisogyny tumblr immediately assumes i want to see posts degrading trans men. it’s so transmisogynistic to think that anyone who supports trans women hates trans men. genuinely distressing.

[tranarchafeminist]

seeing more and more transfeminists getting pulled into the "every transmasc or afab person talking about antitransmasculinity is a raging transmisogynist and lesbophobe" reality tunnel. it's so fucking bleak. oh and "there is no trans community" weird how there is to everyone who doesn't think misogyny stops at women. but yeah in terms of actual community you have to actually go offline and talk to the people you want to build community with.

[molfread]

if you think saying "trans men have gynecological body parts and are thus are affected by misogyny" is equal to saying "all trans men are actually women" then sweetheart you might be a bioessentialist

[redstonedust]

ive been thinking about how some trans spaces and media lack representation of bottom surgery and itd be nice if we could talk about and depict it more. but my attempts to formulate this into a coherent thought lead me to standing in front of the microwave idly thinking "we should normalize men with penises" as if thats a brave new frontier nobody has ever considered.

[sodomit]

I like this post. Because it shows that sometimes, what at the surface sounds like reinforcement of the norm, is actually necessary for a minority that's not included in the norm.

Y'all have seen this post, right?

It was a vaguepost of a trans man who complained about feeling pressure to be feminine. Yet people refer to it completely outside of queer context.

[angrychicagoan24]

i’m gonna say something that will probably piss some people off

i do not think “kill all men” is a good or productive thing to say in any situation

[angrychicagoan24]

obviously this probably fucking sucks to hear as a trans guy but it’s pretty shitty to cis men as well who do not deserve to hear it and honestly it’s not even helpful for men who kinda do deserve to hear it! all you’re doing is adding to hatred on both sides and that literally helps no one

[angrychicagoan24]

i’m very glad people in the tags have been talking about race and stuff which is something i probably should’ve mentioned in the main post

[hellofmychoice]

The myth that “masculinity is always privileged over femininity” has gone so far that people literally tell trans men “no one is stopping you from being a man or masculine” to trans men/mascs like transphobia doesn’t exist.

[penumbralwoods]

"we need more amab nonbinary characters" "we need more afab nonbinary characters" i think we need more nonbinary characters y'all dont immediately scramble to shove into the socially-acceptable binary of your choice. personally.

[cock-holliday]

reinstalled shinigami eyes to take a look at the damage and it's so much worse than a year or so ago when i deleted it. virtually every intersex blog i know of regardless of how they feel about tme/tma is marked red unless they are especially vocal about liking it, countless trans men are marked red regardless of whether they are vocally inclusive, most who are marked green are either famous guys or are (somewhat) infamous for their transphobia and exorsexism if not also racism.

Plenty of transphobic cis folks are green. Virtually every trans-positivity account is red except for the ones who are unapologetically transphobic to at least part of the community. Countless trans women who vocally uses the term transandrophobia are marked red. Several trans women who dont even use the term but have at least on one occasion defended or sympathized with trans men are red. Several trans women who are bigender/NB/Etc with inclusion of any "male" or masc terms are red regardless of whether they seem to have anything to say about trans men.

It is BLEAK. I've been trying to remove reds and greens as I assess, but it is really really gross that it was a pretty well-known soft rule a decade plus ago that you didn't mark trans people red at all even if they were shitheads, unless they were actual proud terfs, because the flagging was guaranteed to isolate them from community.

Inability to assess risk and a total aversion to narratives that contradict what you assume to be the case for others is getting people into a lot of trouble.

Shinigami eyes is completely dead and less than useless, but since so many people still seem to trust it, I do not want people to keep getting flagged as violent evil transphobes cause they started identifying as genderqueer.

[isuggestrespecttranspeople]

Shinigami eyes is terrible and useless. Please stop using it you respect trans people.

[transguyjusttrying]

if you're equating "kill all (oppressed group)" with harmless, hyperbolic jokes, you've lost the fucking plot. you are the problem. i don't give a shit how "frustrated" you are. throwing other trans people under the bus is not helping anyone. if this is your response to saying "hey, maybe don't joke about killing other trans people," you cannot be trusted to be normal about any trans person who even slightly disagrees with you.

[joycomplexx]

by the way it's fine to like sexual content just for the sake of it. "we can't ban porn because other stuff will get banned" "sometimes nude art has value" "the government will classify queer people as sexual" this is all true but it's okay to just like porn. its okay to not want porn to be banned because you like it.

[learn-how-to-love]

Genuinely extremely ghoulish to wield the horrific murder of a young trans woman for discourse points against trans men and mascs speaking up on our issues. Go fuck yourself, seriously. And stop misusing the term “social murder” especially when talking about a REAL ACTUAL FUCKING TRANSFEMICIDE. This is not transfeminism this is just disgusting behavior.

[transmasc-theory]

Trans man: I think I, and every other gender, deserve to be treated equally

Cis man: I think I deserve to be treated as a superior to all women

Transandrophobes: this is the exact same argument, wow. This is terrifying rhetoric. I can't believe trans men are talking exactly like Andrew Tate

[idiosyncraticrednebula]

Say whatever you want, but I think the ideas "Men are just perverted lusftul beasts" and "Women are soft uwu emotionally deep and pure beings who never or rarely think about sex" are equally harmful and regressive ideas to both men and women.

[snarling-dog]

I find a funny post on my dash. I laugh. I click on the blog. "Oh, the person running it is a trans woman! How cool!" I says with joys. I jump up and down. I scroll through her blog to find more funny posts. I see that she has reblogged an Odd™ post concerning transfeminism. My spine tingles. Bad bad feeling. I search "trans men" on her blog. I am met with dozens of posts about trans "male privilege" and how trans men should be shot or forced into labor camps. I sigh and block that person's blog. I continue to scroll. I find a funny post on my

[snarling-dog]

I find a funny post on my dash. I laugh. I click on the blog. "Oh, the person running it is a trans woman! How cool!" I says with joys. I jump up and down. I scroll through her blog to find more funny posts. I see that she has reblogged an Odd™ post concerning transfeminism. My spine tingles. Bad bad feeling. I search "trans men" on her blog. I am met with dozens of posts about trans "male privilege" and how trans men should be shot or forced into labor camps. I sigh and block that person's blog. I continue to scroll. I find a funny post on my

[frogitivity]

People talk about needlessly gendered items but one time I got diagnosed with female presenting autism and I’m still losing my mind over it

[criticallyalexandrite]

This is why Autism Speaks studies are invalid. it’s resulted in people thinking that only men can have autism. Thus resulting in stupid terms like female presenting autism.

[veemopusvulgaris]

FEMALE PRESENTING AUTISM???

[800-dick-pics]

I refused to give my adhd evaluator my gender/sex so she logged my traits and answers from the questionaires both for the “male” adhd and “female” adhd traits and the results varied so much that even my evaluator was shocked by it bc it was the first time she had done both “genders” for one person (and i think it opened her eyes on how wrong and inaccurate sexed tests/evals are). my hyperactivity, and impulsivity scored lower (aka downplayed) on the female page but had a HUGEEEEE spike for it on the male page, their were things like my emotional dysregulation that were also“less apparent” on my female results than my male ones. Genuinely ask who ever is evaluating you to remove sex/gender from the evaluation process and if they refuse demand that they test you as a “male” and “female” Lots of us esp black and brown autistics and adhders are getting duped out of a proper diagnosis bc white perisex cishet people are seen as the “standard” for literally everything in the medical field