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thinking about the specific flavor of hypnotic puppeting, like yes please let me be limp and vacant and so easy to command, pull my strings and move me as you see fit because the only way I can is under your control <3 <3 <3
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âKinky NLP: Neuro-Linguistic Programming for Erotic Hypnosisâ ebook release THIS FRIDAY 12/10/21!
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Her: I know why Iâm not awake yet! Itâs because I havenât had a second cup of tea yet! Not because youâre doing hypno wicked things to me.
Me, listening but looking at my phone: âŠ
Her: Right? Is that true?
Me: Thatâs not true.
Her, a bit confused: Itâs not? Why not?
Me, still not looking at her: You donât know.
Her, automatically: I donât know.
Me, finally looking at her: Thatâs right.
Her, realizing what Iâve done: Oh fuck you!
Me, grinning: âŠ
Her: I donât know. Oh! Now itâs looping!
Me: (chuckling)
Her, moaning a bit: Actual fuck you!
So fun when I can catch her off guard.
wow this sounds familiar đâš
A funny little drama, mystery... mysterious drama.
So, there was this thing that happened on MC Stories (EMCSA) and I'm not sure how I feel about it.
An author, Lydia Salia, got banned because her stories featured very lifelike - as in, the in-story conceit was that they actually happened and the structure is such that you are eventually legit uncertain whether they are real events - scenarios that were, on their face, potentially quite abusive. Her stories have been republished elsewhere and she's revising some of them. I'm also talking with her via email and it's... I'm not sure how I feel about all that.
Like, it seems as though there is just tons of non-consensual hypnosis happening where people hypnotize other people to want to have sex with them. That's pretty damn awful. But, the structure of everything is such that I don't know whether it's just fantasy (which, people have rape fantasies and that's fine) or whether it is a telling of real-life events, and if those events are even possible. But, I also know that highly susceptible and suggestible subjects can drop amazingly easily, and hypnokinksters are almost by definition highly suggestible and susceptible. So, maybe? I don't know.
Anyway, so I'm still chatting with her, and wanting to uncover all the details of everything that is happening, what is just fantasy/role-play, what is not, and all that. It's... there's no great conclusion to this one, because it is still an open mystery.
I don't know her, but I read some of the earlier stories she'd posted to EMCSA. My recollection is that they were well-written, but I eventually started to get a feeling that could be described as, "Either she's writing pure fantasy self-insert non-con stories whose settings just happen to at least sometimes be hypno-cons -- and sometimes particular classes at said cons -- that I had legitimately attended... Or she's writing out very detailed confessions of her rampant consent violations (and in some cases the consent violations committed by others of her acquaintance?) at events I attended. And I can't tell which, and I'm super duper not okay with that." And so I stopped reading her material.
(And it's not like her name or the names of the other people in the stories were necessarily the scene names they use at these events; they could be the only fictional element. Which meant I had no way of knowing if she or the others she was writing these things about were people I had actually interacted with. Yikes! đŹđŹđŹ)
I'm actually surprised and honestly kind of glad to hear that she got banned for it; that's more than I'm used to expecting Simon to do on any but the rarest of occasions. IMO, it's basically just like the perennial problem hypnokink tumblr has with blogs where you can't tell if their "all women should be brainwashed into blonde bimbo slaves etc." theme is just fantasy schtick or their real misogynistic views because they're on it 24/7 without any disclaimer. Too much verisimilitude in the places that make a thing gross instead of hot.
To be fair to her, she has since made it clear that MOST of that was fictional. Though, that was only after - according to her - she got a visit from the FBI about allegations of sex trafficking.
I appreciate your willingness to give the benefit of the doubt, but has she really "made it clear," though? Or is this all damage control and ass-covering?
After being banned from the EMCSA, of course she's going to claim her stories were fiction, whether or not they actually were. Similarly, assuming she actually was visited by the FBI, then of course she's going to similarly claim fiction to keep them from coming by again... assuming the FBI visit isn't the fiction to generate sympathy and lower the bar to get herself out from under the shitstorm she generated for herself. How's anyone going to know?
(I'm not even necessarily saying that she is lying now when she wasn't before? But I am saying at at this point, I personally am past giving her a shit's worth of credibility, and that I'd be careful about how far you extend your own credit toward someone who's proven to play so fast and loose with the lines between fantasy and reality. ÂŻ\_(ă)_/ÂŻ )
A funny little drama, mystery... mysterious drama.
So, there was this thing that happened on MC Stories (EMCSA) and I'm not sure how I feel about it.
An author, Lydia Salia, got banned because her stories featured very lifelike - as in, the in-story conceit was that they actually happened and the structure is such that you are eventually legit uncertain whether they are real events - scenarios that were, on their face, potentially quite abusive. Her stories have been republished elsewhere and she's revising some of them. I'm also talking with her via email and it's... I'm not sure how I feel about all that.
Like, it seems as though there is just tons of non-consensual hypnosis happening where people hypnotize other people to want to have sex with them. That's pretty damn awful. But, the structure of everything is such that I don't know whether it's just fantasy (which, people have rape fantasies and that's fine) or whether it is a telling of real-life events, and if those events are even possible. But, I also know that highly susceptible and suggestible subjects can drop amazingly easily, and hypnokinksters are almost by definition highly suggestible and susceptible. So, maybe? I don't know.
Anyway, so I'm still chatting with her, and wanting to uncover all the details of everything that is happening, what is just fantasy/role-play, what is not, and all that. It's... there's no great conclusion to this one, because it is still an open mystery.
I don't know her, but I read some of the earlier stories she'd posted to EMCSA. My recollection is that they were well-written, but I eventually started to get a feeling that could be described as, "Either she's writing pure fantasy self-insert non-con stories whose settings just happen to at least sometimes be hypno-cons -- and sometimes particular classes at said cons -- that I had legitimately attended... Or she's writing out very detailed confessions of her rampant consent violations (and in some cases the consent violations committed by others of her acquaintance?) at events I attended. And I can't tell which, and I'm super duper not okay with that." And so I stopped reading her material.
(And it's not like her name or the names of the other people in the stories were necessarily the scene names they use at these events; they could be the only fictional element. Which meant I had no way of knowing if she or the others she was writing these things about were people I had actually interacted with. Yikes! đŹđŹđŹ)
I'm actually surprised and honestly kind of glad to hear that she got banned for it; that's more than I'm used to expecting Simon to do on any but the rarest of occasions. IMO, it's basically just like the perennial problem hypnokink tumblr has with blogs where you can't tell if their "all women should be brainwashed into blonde bimbo slaves etc." theme is just fantasy schtick or their real misogynistic views because they're on it 24/7 without any disclaimer. Too much verisimilitude in the places that make a thing gross instead of hot.
âLook into my eyes,â Â Juliet said, trying to fix Anna with a stare.
Anna laughed. âThat works for you most of the time, does it? Being as cliche as possible?â
Juliet smiled back, taking care not to break eye contact. âIt doesnât matter if it works for me, dear. What matters is what works for you. And we both know you like the cliche. Those old movie scenes of the helpless victim being enthralled just by those words. The light fading from her eyes the longer she looks. Thatâs what you want, so thatâs what are you going to get.â The smile left her face.
Anna blushed. âLike when the vampire claims his bride. And her whole body just goes limp. He moves and her eyes follow. Maybe her mouth hangs open.â She licked her lips. âThatâs pretty damn hot.â
âYes it is. Thatâs the point.â Juliet looked sterner now, more forceful. She reached out and gently grabbed Annaâs chin between her thumb and the side of her forefinger, raising Annaâs eyes to meet hers. âBut now itâs time for you to do just as that vampireâs thrall did, focus on my eyes, and listen. Is that clear?â
Anna swallowed, an audible gulp coming from her open mouth. âY-yes.â Sheâd agreed to let Juliet hypnotize her again and was actually really looking forward to it. The first time had been very humdrum and predictable, making every part of her body as relaxed as possible and then making her mind just as relaxed as her body and then counting down as she walked down the staircase in her mind. Yawn. It had been very relaxing, but Anna had never really felt like she was under. She felt far too in control, like she could stick out her tongue, open her eyes, and get up whenever she wanted. Juliet had insisted that didnât mean much, and that Anna had been deeply entranced, probably a lot more deeply than she realized (what had that meant?). But they had talked at length afterward, and Anna had described what she had expected, and what was missing and what she would enjoy. She had actually let slip a rather lewd fantasy involving a vampire which she had tried to segue into a discussion of old TV and movies from her childhood. Juliet had taken that to heart at least, and now seemed to be giving her exactly what she said she had wanted. Anna did as she was told and was silent.
âThatâs right,â Julietâs voice dropped to almost a whisper. Her hand moved not more than a quarter of an inch side to side, guiding Annaâs head. The now much more attentive girl kept her eyes locked on her hypnotist. âYou can see it all before you now, canât you. Playing out just how youâd always imagined. My eyes appearing bigger and deeper and more compelling with every passing moment. You can picture yourself staring, your eyes staying focused right here as everything else fades away. And the longer you stare, the harder it gets to look away. But this is what you wanted, Anna. This is what youâve been longing for. You could still look away now, of course. But you want to be entranced by my eyes, donât you Anna?â
âYeahhhh,â Anna drawled. She hadnât realized it yet, but already her posture had visibly changed. Her shoulders sagged. She had sank deeper into the soft sofa beneath her. Her head hung forward slightly. Maybe because it felt good to relax her neck. Or maybe she was already being pulled in by those eyes. Anna had never really examined them before, but they were rather captivating. Flecks of blue and gold danced against the deepest green. It was so nice to get to study them. And there was nothing else she needed to do right now but focus, just like Juliet had said. Focus and listen.
âAnd what happens next, Anna?â A look of confusion briefly crossed Annaâs face. She was thankful that Juliet answered her own question after half a beat, so Anna didnât have to think of one. âOur pretty little victim starts thinking less and less. The bigger those eyes appear in her mind, the more they occupy her thoughts. And the more she thinks about those eyes, the less room there is for other thoughts. And you know how she looks when she is that deeply enthralled. Anyone could see on her face that all of her attention was consumed by those eyes. Even if she struggled for a moment, even if she blinked, every moment staring into my eyes just makes them more captivating, makes it more impossible for you to look away. As they fill you vision. You know how you look when my eyes push out all your thoughts.â
In a monotone voice that sounded alien to her, Anna breathed, âBlank.â And she pictured it, just how Juliet described. Her eyes glazing over. Her head bobbing back and forth in response to every motion of the eyes which held her gaze. She saw herself blank and staring, falling deeper as the light in her eyes faded.
âAnd when you become that blank, when these eyes have pulled you in so deep, you have no choice but to surrender to their power. You open yourself to them and you are lost in them. Blank and open, you can only watch and listen. And enthralled by my eyes, you can only absorb my words, submitting to every suggestion. Feel my words sink deep into your mind. And captivated, blank, and open, feel them take root. Even as your conscious mind focuses all your attention on my irresistible eyes, my words can find purchase in that deepest part of your mind. And all you can do is focus and listen, and become enthralled by my hypnotic eyes.â
âEnthralledâŠâ Annaâs voice was less than a whisper. Her mouth barely moved.
âAnd what does that make you, Anna? So deeply enthralled, just like the victims of those vampires you so envied. So completely open to every suggestion. The last glimmer of independence gone from your face, just how you always imagined. No thoughts. My hypnotic eyes your entire world. What are you, Anna?â
âAâŠthrallâŠâ
Enthralled
Request Fic for @ragezdasta
Prompt:â Normal hypnotherapy uncovers a personâs dark hypnokinky past that was previously erased via intense memory play. â
Warning: This is not how any of this actually works.Â
Mistress owns my body. Mistress owns my soul. I am broken for mistress. Mistress owns my body. Mistress owns my soul. I am broken for mistress.
The voice droned on and on.
Clara was beginning to panic. She looked over at her couch and her frenzied client. Marianneâs eyes were open, staring vacantly at nothing. Her voice was pitched high and frantic, like she was pleading with someone or engaging in some ecstatic ritual. Her breathing was high and fast. Her body was frozen as though in terror- except for one hand that slowly and absently rubbed at her cunt. Â
Clara pulled her limp hand away.
Marianne let it linger in the air for a moment before resuming her circling.
It was though she couldnât even feel it, Clara thought.
For the first time in her hypnotherapy career, Clara had no idea what to do.
After last weekâs disastrous session, she wasnât surprised when Marianne had called to schedule an emergency session a few days later. During her first few sessions, Marianne and Clara had decided to try a memory regression to help discover the cause of Marianneâs sexual reluctance with her fiance. Â But last week, when the regression had actually happened and Clara began to question her, Marianne had stiffened like a frightened animal. A look of shock had come over her face and she began reciting the same statements about being owned and broken, over and over. Her voice was both detached sounding and determined. It reminded Clara of watching possession movies.
Clara had tried to question Marianne further. She had even taken great pains to reassure her that she was safe and that it was OK to remember. But, despite everything, Marianne would only stare, recite, and touch. All Clara could do was talk her through an old trauma amnesia procedure- showing her how to box up this side of herself for the time being. She had been incredibly relieved when Marianne had come back to her regular self by the end of their session. At least, Clara thought, that would give her another week to think about what to do next.
Clara didnât get her week. Marianne might not have remembered what happened during her regression- Clara had been careful to help her repress THAT information- but apparently Marianne had been suffering from ill effects anyway. She had told Clara that she hadnât been able to work, she hadnât been able to spend time with her fiance, she hadnât even been able to THINK properly since their last session. She found herself awaking from stupors only to realize with dread that hours had passed. Sometimes Marianne âwoke upâ wearing different clothes or in places that she didnât recognize. The only thing that Marianne could blame was her hypnotherapy appointment. She called and demanded that Clara see and fix her immediately- and threatened to sue her for malpractice if she didnât.
Clara desperately contacted all of her mentors before the session began to get help brainstorming how to help with Marianneâs memory block. No one had seen anything like it before. Clara had taken notes on their ideas and tried all of their suggestions anyway . She even tried the âboxing upâ trick that had helped last week.
No luck.
Clara looked at the masturbating woman across the room. If anything, Marianne had seemed to retreat deeper and deeper into herself over time, becoming more and more lost.
She began to have a sinking suspicion.
The mantras Marianne recited sang out to Clara. They were familiar, like the lyrics to a forgotten childhood song. Â A few times, she even had a vivid flash of herself, lying in a similar position and brokenly reciting the same words of devotion. It was worrying- like feeling a new ache in a tooth that had long since gone dead.
It wasnât Clara who had broken Marianne. But she recognized the work of the one who had.
She decided to call Desiree. Her first mentor.
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Fortunately, Desiree picked up on the first ring.
âClara, dear, how are you? Howâs your practice? Iâve been sending you referrals, you know!â
Desireeâs voice was cheery and kind. Clara reluctantly noted that it still pulled on her attention, giving her little sparks of happiness that felt particularly unwelcome in her current circumstances. She respected Desireeâs skill immensely but she knew she could never trust her. Not after what had happened between them.
She wasnât going to get pulled into Desireeâs chit chat. âDo you know a Marianne Thomas?â Clara replied, accusingly.Â
Desiree seemed puzzled. âI donât recall that name. Did she mention knowing me? Clara, dear, you sound so strange! Whatâs wrong?â
Clara sighed. Took a picture of her masturbating patient. Hit send. Waited.
There was a long pause from the other side of the line. âOh,â Desiree finally replied, hesitantly. âI forgot that she was Marianne now.â
Clara let the silence play out. She was too pissed off to speak.
When Desiree continued, her voice was regretful. âLaura- or I guess Marianne now- was my first. Twenty years ago. She was like you were when you were younger- she came to me saying that she had no limits and wanted to be completely broken. Completely brainwashed. There wereâŠI didnât know exactly what I was doing at the time. There was no one to ask, no idea that that could be done safely. We didnât WANT it to be done safely. And we were both consenting adults.â
âI was curious about what I could do to her- what the limits were. I read up on cults, on psychological torture. I had all sorts of plans. I would keep her up all night, feed her very little, make her listen to my voice in her sleep. I knew she was becoming REALLY mine when she would only focus on her brainwashing. She started to punish herself for disobedience without prompting- and sheâd reward herself the more mindless and obedient she became. That was really hot. I didnât want it to stop. Even when I felt like I was losing control of it, it was hot. I didnâtâŠI didnât quite believe it was real back then. I thought we were mostly roleplaying, engaging in a collective fantasy. I was only doing what she wanted.â
âBut, over time, Laura began to fade and disappear. She quit her job. I was fine with that- I made enough to support her and I liked having a brainwashed housekeeper in the home. She stopped seeing her friends. She even stopped responding to her name. It was like her personality just drained out. Towards the end, when she wasnât actively obeying me, she would just sit there in a stupor. Like she wasnât even a person.â
âAt one point I even tried to get Laura back. I would tell her that she WAS Laura right now, that she could act like Laura. And she would..for a few minutes. But she couldnât sustain it. Laura wasnât there anymore-not really. She was only my slave.â
âAnd- wellâŠthat wasnât what I wanted.â
âI felt responsible for her, of course. I stayedâŠ.another 6 months after I knew it had to end. But- I couldnât condemn myself to be stuck as her caretaker forever. Not over a genuine mistake.â
âI did my research- even tracked down and  paid a good amount of money for some black market MKULTRA info. I figured out how they built a new personality in their sleeper agents, one that could function in day to day life. One that would feel real and whole to my slave in a way that Laura didnât anymore. One that didnât have to remember what Laura had been through.â
âAnd soâŠthatâs when I made Marianne.â
Desireeâs usually-confident voice had become more and more shakey as her story went on. She sighed.
Clara felt no sympathy. âSo why is your Marianne stuck reciting mantras on my couch?â asked Clara, shortly. âAnd how do I fix her?â
âIâm guessing you tried a regression?â asked Desiree.
âYes,â said Clara, her voice cold. âShe was having sexual compatibility problems. With her fiance.â
âFuck,â said Desiree. âOf course she was. I never thought sheâd manage to HAVE a fiance. OK, so you must have gotten her under deeply enough that she remembered her old self. Itâs like her old slave programming is coming through and sheâs trying to erase Marianne in the same way that she erased Laura.â
âWeâve been here for 3 hours,â said Clara impatiently, gripping her phone. âHer fiance will be looking for her soon. This is your responsibility. You need to come here. Fix her.â
âThatâs a bad idea,â frowned Desiree. âI think my going there would justâŠencourage the process. She needs more help than youâll be able to give right now. Let me think. Can I put you on hold for a minute?â
âWhat?! No you canât-â Â Clara exclaimed, just as the phone went mute.Â
She paced her office, frustrated and angry.
After some time, Desireeâs voice came back on the other line. She sounded calmer now. More in control. Clara felt something inside her shift.
âOK, Clara- listen carefully. This is what weâre going to do. Youâre going to call and arrange for an involuntary commitment for Marianne at the Cedar Crest psych hospital. Tell them that sheâs hearing voices that are telling her to harm herself. You may even want to suggest to her that she HEARS voices before you go- sheâs way more open to suggestion right now that she appears. Youâll drive her to their admissions department. Dr Marshall will meet you there- heâs a close friend and Iâve told him enough that he can handle the situation. A commitment will give him a few days to do so more thoroughly. Dr. Marshall can contact Marianneâs fiance- you neednât bother. Youâll return to your office and call me back. Understand?â
Clara wanted to object. This was completely unethical. She shouldnât let Desiree talk her into participating in this.
âI understand, ma'amâ, she heard her voice saying, as if from a great distance.
Desiree sounded relieved. âGood girl. Now go make your calls.â
Clara hung up the phone, feeling clear and steady. She knew what she needed to do next.
What makes your brain shut down fastest? Best? Thanks for the answers and heres some head pats as thanks. Pat pat pat, ear skritch, pat.
Mmmmm muchas graçias
I think in general, rapid confusion inductions or kinesthetic inductions. But there are also a couple of people out there who can now put me straight under just with their voice. It's even sort-of happened with someone who just sounded like them đ
I've been experimenting with waking trances lately, and I can be having a normal conversation with one of these people and before I realize it I'm in an incredibly deep trance and still conversing, but it's my subconscious doing the talking. All because my brain is conditioned to react to their intonation, NLP, subtle controlly-language, etc.
the smell of latex, reblog if you agree
There is nothing more tender than playing with someoneâs handsâŠ..it sounds so dumb but stroking each otherâs palms & tapping on each otherâs wrists & twisting your fingers together & squeezing each otherâs handsâŠ..itâs like having a conversation that no one else can hear!
How To Be Evil
Subtitle: Anthropological Observations on Various Presentations and Permutations of Hypnotist!Evil
I wrote this post in response to a question from @convoluted-moonscape about being a dominant in a hypnotic D/s relationship.
Reader: I have no clue how to be a dominant in a hypnotic relationship.
Iâm fairly new to kinky hypnosis and Iâm still wrapping my head around what that label means and what responsibilities come with it. However, what I HAVE learned in my 8 months in the community is some of the different, fascinating ways to be Hypnotist Evil. Some of these are things Iâve done for years as a non-sexy recreational hypnotist*, some are brand new, and some were beyond my previous non-kinky imaginings.
1.Teasy Evil- This is the kind of evil I was most familiar with from rec hypnosis. This evil is usually pretty playful and involve fucking with your subject in mildly frustrating but mutually satisfying ways.
Examples include: Aggressive fractionation. Re-inductions that drop your subject mid-sentence. Unpredictable dropping. Trance teasing/denial: âYouâre almost there- itâs going to feel so good when you finally let go- feeling more and more relaxed- aaaaaand NOPE YOUâRE WIDE AWAKE!â. Hypno orgasm triggers/teasing like in this scene. Silly triggers like âeverytime I say the word banana itâs the funniest thing youâve ever heard.â Random suggestibility tests.
Subject reaction: âFoot stompingâ, adorable whining, adorable pouts, silly cursing and calling you names like âdirty rotten hypnotistâ**, giggling/laughing
How to: As I said above, the tone here is primarily playful. You and your subject should be having fun- you donât want to accidentally stray into humiliation***. In my experience with negotiating these scenes, you arenât usually negotiating trigger by trigger but more the tone and examples. Still- if someoneâs new to you, itâs safest to give anything potentially embarrassing a wide berth or discuss in advance to make sure itâs OK. Also- for best results, be unpredictable and be creative. You can also use your subjectâs reactions against them- ex. âYou poked out your tongue at me? Now itâs stuckâ
2. Tropey/Supervillain/mcstories evil- In this kind of evil, you are taking inspiration from every evil mind controller you saw in cartoons and TV shows when you were a kid. (Ex: The Master, pictured above) If you are like me, you learned hypnosis as a cooperative venture sometimes involving lots of passive/permissive and subject-empowering language.**** Fuck that noise. In this kind of evil, you are imitating the kind of hypnotist who would scare vanilla friends away and make your hypnotherapy teacher cry.
Examples include: Using tropes like spirals, eye fixation, pocketwatches, etc. Imitating the Master/comic book villains/various evil enchantresses/that clown from that Scooby Doo episode. Suggesting the person canât come out of trance on their own. Copious usage of words like âblankâ, âmindlessâ, âhelplessâ, âobedientâ, âbrainwashedâ. The whole subcategory of hypno-dirty talk.
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SPEAKING OF HYPNO DIRTY TALK, I interrupt this post to share with you good people two recent excellent examples:
@hypno-sandwich: âYou may find it curious that my voice is sounding so familiar to you. Thatâs because youâre starting to realize that my voice has always been there.â
@mr-prism: â"Even if you try to resist my words, your own mind will betray you. You want my words. You crave their influence. Part of you will be pulled towards them no matter what you do. Try to resist now, and feel yourself drawn even deeper into my control the more you struggle. Now. Twist, turn, struggle. Fall. Fall into my influence. Fall into my words. Fall into me. Captive.â
Unf. I am definitely starting a hypno dirty talk sharing thread after this post.
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Subject reaction: For a person with a certain kind of kink (and most of the people on tumblr I would imagine), this is hot like fire. It can also lead to the good kind of anxious/nervous/scared. This uses super dominant language so it can encourage subby reactions if thatâs something your subject likes.
How to: Remember that you can be campy and over the top with this- although you may want to start more down-to-earth and escalate, especially if this is your first time with a subject or first time adopting this tone. Mantras are good and common here- if you use them, feel free to ask your subject what words are hottest for them in advance. Use direct, dominant language. Some people (including hypnokinksters) DO NOT like this style for multiple reasons (donât respond, think it sounds silly, think it sounds too much like roleplay/too different from regular hypnosis) so definitely negotiate it in advance. If this is a new/different style for your subject, they may not respond to suggestions as easily if they blur the line between this and roleplay. Alternatively, even if you feel like youâre roleplaying, your subject may not- go ahead and clear out long lasting suggestions (like @hypno-sandwichâs above) at the end of a session. If you use language about being helpless to resist trance, subjects not being able to wake up on their own, etc. negotiate and remind subjects before (and possibly during) that they can actually ALWAYS resist suggestions/safeword/come out of trance if needed. (Phrasing Iâve heard in general and like âas long as itâs good, safe and right for youâ. Checking in frequently is probably smart, especially at the beginning
3. Mad Scientist Evil: Experiment! Is there a thing that youâve always wanted to do with hypnosis but felt weird asking your friends? Do that! âHey, can I give you a false memory?â âHey, what would happen if we did a dual induction and turned someone into a dinosaur and a bimbo at the same time?â âHey, what if I tried to hypnotize someone using only a glass of water? Or only my facial expression?â (For science!)
Examples include: That thing you read in a dusty book when you were 12. That thing where youâve always wondered if it would actually work. Things youâve seen Derren Brown do. Iâd say @theleeallure and @hypno-sandwichâs Hypnotic Amnesia is an example of mutually enjoyable Mad Scientist Evil
Subject reaction: Ideally they should also be really curious and interested in your experiment- part of the fun of this community is there are many people who love being on all sides of interesting experiments.
How to: As always, negotiate. There may be times where youâre doing a single-blind experiment (the subject doesnât know the purpose)- approach this with lots of caution and negotiate around (like in #1). Since these things are experiments, they may fail- its best if youâre working with someone you have a lot of trust with (and preferably a history/rapport with) so you know the relationship can withstand the failure. If something doesnât work, donât freak out- troubleshoot with your subject or move back to something that does. Remember that your subject is, in fact, a person and not just a lab rat- treat them with respect and donât jeopardize their safety for your curiosity.
4. Subject Modification Evil- If youâre working with someone long term, you can make permanent changes to their behavior/worldview/etc.This can overlap with mad scientist evil- I tend to think of subject modification evil as intended to be long-lasting while mad scientist evil is shorter term.
Examples: âYou arenât affected by spirals? Now youâre incredibly affected by spiralsâ âI think eyerolls are cute- so Iâm going to train you to roll your eyes whenever you go into tranceâ âYou donât have this kink/erogenous zone/positive response to a word I like? Now you doâ
Subject reaction: Depending on your subject (and presuming enthusiastic consent), this can make them feel really controlled in a way that some people find very sexy. Lots of similar feelings to #2 actually.
How to: You should always negotiate this and be very, very cautious. DO NOT BREAK YOUR SUBJECTS. If you donât know how to do this kind of thing, ask for advice from the community- there are people out there who do. You donât want to jump into the deep end of modification- the advice Iâve heard is maintain something for the session first, check reaction, try for a bit longer (a few hours), check reaction, try for a day or two, check reaction, etc. Start small and build. This is best done in a relationship where thereâs a lot of knowledge and trust. Thereâs strong potential for abuse here-intentional or by way of thoughtlessness/negligence.
5. Roleplaying Evil- Do you or your partner have an exciting/sexy scenario that you canât do in real life (possibly because itâs dangerous/immoral/unethical)? Roleplay it!
Example: âWhat if I kidnapped you and made you my brainwashed slave?â âWhat if I tied you up and dismembered you?â âWhat if I lobotomized you?â
Subject reaction: From what Iâve seen, it is often the subjectâs fantasy youâre playing so- hot! #2 and #4 with maybe more fun fear- like being in a haunted house (possibly?)
How to: This is another one I have limited experience with. From my MEEHU class- Clearly establish the beginning and end of the roleplay- Iâve started moving the roleplay to a special âfantasy roomâ in a subjectâs mind to give it a specific and limited space. Establish if this roleplay will be more of an eyes closed guided fantasy or an eyes open acted out roleplay. Even if the roleplay looks like not!hypnosis, know your subject is still suggestible and be careful with what you say. Take off all suggestions at the end of play- one by one and then altogether. Have I said negotiate enough? Negotiate. Some subjects want more details, some want less- ask.
6. Regular Olâ S+M Evil- Do the things you regularly do with kinky sex only also with hypnosis- bondage, spanking, objectification, pet play, etc.
Example: Freezing, hypno-spanking, etc.
Subject reaction: S+M-ey? #2, #4, and #5ish
How to: Those things you do? Make them suggestions. Err- outside of a bit of hypno-freezing and hypno-bondage, this is outside my knowledge area. Thoughts from others?
ETA from @heidisea: â Lay a rope across my body and tell me it is getting tighter. Tell me each hit with the flogger will be intensified. Tell me every time someone else is spanked/flogged/whipped I will feel it then take me to a local dungeon. Coming from the BDSM world my list of âevilâ things that can be enhance with hypnosis is long.â- Thanks lady! (The knowledge hit me like âWhooshâ! :)~ )
7. Actual Evil- This is when you get away from fun mwahahaha-evil and actually cause harm to another person, intentionally or unintentionally.
Example: Triggers that make a person sick if they try and leave you, financial domination, psychological/emotional/physical/sexual abuse
Subject reactions: Confused? Unhappy? Deteriorating mental health?
How (not) to: Communicate, be cautious, respect your subject, etc. How Not to Accidentally Be an Abusive Arsehole of a Hypnotist
As I stated at the beginning, I am still a newbie and do not have a complete understanding of the various evils, much less the how-tos and safety. If you have this knowledge, feel free to post/comment and contribute! Also feel free to contradict me if I have something wrong (which I almost certainly do).
Tags (for those not already mentioned):
@tennfan2 (who knows you can make anything evil if you really want to ), @soundshypnotic (for being an endless fount of support/knowledge and all the good!evils), @hypnoticharlequin (because you know all the things), @hypnosophist (for awesome perspectives), @zanythoughts (for thoughts and shennanigans), @dancercoder (for general knowledge and also consent/negotiation recommendations), @spiralturquoise (for expertise), @banana-pie-gaige (for being switchy!evil), @sex-obsessed-lesbian (just cause) @the-inquisition-scmh (I used your scene!) @mrs-prism (for longstanding community perspective) and @mr-prism (already tagged but- really for being a goddamned professional :)~)
ETA: @sebsteerpike also has knowings in this arena!
Note:This post was originally part of a reply to this post by @convoluted-moonscape that took on a life of its own. I am going to reply to your question about D/s switching later on- and I also encourage others with insight to go reply as well!
*still totally a real thing
**courtesy of @thehypnobunny (linked to yâalls scene up there re: teasy :) )
***Referring here to bad humiliation, fun!humiliation is aâOK
****Hypnosis is ALWAYS a cooperative venture, just in this case you are both pretending its not
This post is being reblogged again and- honestly itâs like reading an old diary. Coming from hypnosis in a non-kinky framework it was so odd trying to figure out what hypnosis as D/s even was or how to reframe what I already knew into the language that everyone else was using.
Closing the Gap: Trance Using Technology
Join Zany Danger as they discuss different techniques, considerations, and safeties to take into account when working with a hypnosis partner from a distance. This class will also talk about ways to nurture connection within long distance relationships.
https://discord.gg/55AW958
Zany Danger has taught classes at several regional and national events on BDSM, rope, hypnokink, communication, and bodywork (among other topics.) A jaded optimist enby queer, they encourage people to follow their passions. They are available for private sessions and blog at zanydanger.tumblr.com. Consider supporting their smut-reading podcast (Fingering A Page) by buying a limited edition "FAP! Dangerously" enamel pin, or buy one of DommesticPet's Hypnosis Flagging pins! Link- www.fingeringapagepod.com
As you may have heard, Hypnosis NJ cancelled the in-person class for Bimbos A-Z on March 21st due to COVID-19 concerns.
Good news is that we have several online classes planned and the one in itâs place will be by the wonderful @zanydanger of @fingeringapagepodcast â€ïž! We hope youâll join us for this class in long distance hypno play!
All from around the world welcome!
Oh, this should be good times.
"Bud" is short for "buddy", so it would work
Bud. Buddy. Budster. Squirt. Chap. My guy.
(Alternative pet names)
NaNoWriMo #4
Here we go again! I honestly donât see myself not being able to write every day because as long as itâs writing about something and not limited to a particular subject, Iâm pretty able to ramble on and on. The spirit of the month is to write period, so I think Iâm achieving that. This is my second rewrite of this post because Iâm a derp who writes her post directly into the Tumblr interface instead of on a word document, and that means I lose my posts! Often. Iâve lost stories like that and I apparently donât learn from my mistakes. I had about four different topics, but I wrote a personal post yesterday so without further adoâŠ
HYPNOCONS! Iâve written about them in the past before. Theyâve featured prominently in my personal posts, other posts I canât immediately find, and asks. As Mindquake has just ended, and a friend has been telling me about her experiences, itâs been on my mind! This was her first con, and she was telling me about how she was having a great time and all the things she didnât realize she LOVED - being around other like-minded people, the nervous excited energy thatâs abuzz in air. (She doesnât have a Tumblr, but on the off-chance sheâs reading this - Iâm so proud for you and happy for you!!) We donât share absolutely everything about our experiences - itâs completely possible she had a lot of worries and doubts and down points, and in fact Iâm fairly certain she did. But, as what feels natural, when we recount our memories we talk about the new experiences, the positive bits, more than we talk about our anxieties leading up to and during the conference.
In that post linked above, Iâm very careful to mention that hypnosis conferences will not automatically and immediately change your life. Which sounds hypocritical coming from me, who will also in the same breath talk about how attending these events was life-changing for me. The issue, or worry rather, is the difference in expectations. Often I get the impression from some people that they think hypnocons are a hypnotic orgy where everyone gets to be hypnotized, or hypnotize someone, or that theyâll find their perfect match, or are in some other way seeking specific connections or benefits. Thatâs not what they are! For some people yes - they might have a great time. Some will find lasting partners. Some will make wonderful connections! But hypnocons, to me are a series of opportunities. Chances to attend classes, learn things, maybe buy books or pick up shiny things! Chances to meet people, chances to get to know them. But things are what you make of them, and they wonât fall into your lap. Something Iâm fond of repeating is that hypnocons are, in my experience, generally welcoming - there are friendly people-types, there are a lot of pre-con conversations that happen across Fetlife or con Discords (which could be streamlined a bit more, but they do their best to advertise all the ways to stay in contact). The cons I have attended all have had beginner and newbie-friendly classes, most of them have had specifically introductory-geared events with icebreakers and conversation, and have ways to mark yourself as a new attendee or happy to talk/start conversations as you wish. The point is, the door is open - itâs inviting, thereâs people inside who will help you with questions, but the community can only stop just short of physically grabbing your arm and pulling you in.
So, conferences are the experience that you make for yourself. Which sounds intimidating, and it sounds rough, but no one else can make or change your conference for you without YOU reaching out for that, you know? And these words are more for the people who are upset when they donât get to have all the scenes they want - thereâs no guarantee of anything. You could go a whole con without a scene. You could go a whole con without meeting someone who fits your power dynamic fantasy. I generally recommend not to hinge your mood and expectations on specific single things. Be flexible. Take it as it comes, and be open to the possibilities instead of fixating on what NEEDS to happen. (This sounds familiar to my advice for going into trance - can you tell what my general philosophies are?)
Cons arenât perfect. Iâve had good cons, and Iâve had bad cons. Iâve had bad times at cons where I knew personally I wasnât in a good space for it, and Iâve had bad times at cons where I was specifically overwhelmed by the confusion and chaos in it. Thereâs always room to improve, and room to do better - and largely, cons have been open to feedback (fill out those surveys they send out!) and have conversations about what would be best for the community. But you know? I was terrified of my first con. I wrote some DUMB terrified posts on my blog years ago, leading up to my first con, and people reached out and said theyâd be happy to say hi. I went to my first con. I found people to say hi to. I attended classes I wanted to attend. I was anxious and awkward and god, I cringe when I think about my first con and how I must have acted towards others - but it was eye-opening to me specifically to see people around me, happy - people who could just be happy in that space. Maybe not happy overall with where they were in life, but in that moment, I saw people shine. And as I connected with people after the con, I realized I wanted more for myself, and maybe to shine myself. And even then, it wasnât until earlier this year that I realized it was okay to love others and be loved - and it led to deep talks. Meaningful relationships. It led to actively changing my life, and being a better version of me. But it wouldnât have done that if I didnât up and move myself.
So, all that said, this is me, in a very roundabout way, reaching out in this general post and saying: I would be happy to say hi, reader, if you are ever at a hypnocon that Iâm also at. I cannot promise I will spend the entire con with you, or that I can do specific things for you - but I promise that I will be on the other side of that door, and welcome you.
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New triggers, they said they were done for now but requested one more little video, I see why now
Well fuck
Mindquake
...was good as a con. Not so great personally, but I was very pleased with it as a con experience.
Best choice: deleting all classes before 11am. Entirely, 100% worth the reduction in offered classes. Icebreakers started at 10, but classes didn't start until 11. I am absolutely convinced this is the correct choice for kink cons.
Even if you tell people to get their sleep and that it's okay to sleep in, everyone will get up anyway -- because their roommate is getting up, because their friend is teaching, whatever -- and the side effects on people's energy levels are awful. Just delete the earliest class block.
Oh, wow, yeah, that sounds great. Totally agreed that that sounds like the best idea.
