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As a Daniel enjoyer, can I just say, the racism is the point. The ableism is the point, the bag on her head as she cried, the student used aggressively, the estranged daughters. This is a boomer monster. Remember how he lectured Lestat's head on having carved out a path for himself? That's boomer talk. You dislike him by design, because he is a bad person and I'd never seen a so thoroughly boomer evil on tv, it's very interesting and timely, you just gotta understand that it's not a blind spot in the writing, it's intentional. Just like it's intentional that Armand torture Louis, and the shockingly evil ugliness of that. The ugliness of incest, of murder, nothing is sanitized.

They're wealthy predators, the discomfort is the point.

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How are people mad at the amount of Devil's Minion we're getting this season? In the books, Daniel didn't even have a NAME yet in The Vampire Lestat. Now, our boys are BEHEADING the protagonists together!

People are claiming crumbs? My siblings in Christ, the Queen of the Damned arc is when Devil's Minion burrowed into our heads and removed our brains to be liquified in the blender of obsession before lovingly being placed back in our skulls. Crumbs? I am savoring this amuse fucking bouche because the meal is on its way.

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I don't think a good portion of the IWTV/TVL audience fully appreciates what it means for the show to be created and written by a team of playwrights.

Across each season, the writers have shown us, time and time again, that they're still playing the long game. The details within might not be fully fleshed out ahead, but the framework and milestones of the show clearly planned, and they've used various literary devices to guide you along the way. The show is more interested in fulfilling its creative vision first and foremost, than in appeasing or pandering to an audience (or in spoon-feeding the material to you). I remember Sam, in an interview, quoting something Rolin said about how you don't know what you want or need to see until you've seen it. I'm enjoying that the show doesn't bow to external pressure and is playing out how it's meant to play out and regardless of how long it takes to get there. That is something extremely rare in TV nowadays, where ratings and/or awards reign supreme.

Also, sure, let the tale seduce you, but still keep your wits about you!

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ASSAD ZAMAN as ARMAND Interview with the Vampire (2022 - ) 3.07

Let me get this straight

The character of Daniel Molloy literally made a girl put a paper bag over her head and had sex with her “even as she cried” (which could be interpreted as a sign that it was no longer consensual), but now that he’s made an autism joke is when he becomes a bad person?

He was never a good person and he was never a nice person. He’s a grumpy fucking asshole and that gets old quick for me. No, it’s definitely not good to make jokes like that because it perpetuates stereotypes and is hurtful to those with autism or those who love someone with autism. The line needs to be drawn when it comes to issues like this. The writers should have considered that.

But the expectation that every character in tv, movies, or books should be good and moral or they and those who wrote them should be cancelled is something I see so often now. These aren’t real people. They’re fictional characters who don’t realize their idiocy or moral failings half the time. Even worse, sometimes they do and they don’t care. You’re choosing to watch or read a story that was not written by you or for you.

Edited to add that even though these aren’t real people, they are based off of how real people are: nuanced, grey instead of black and white. Good and bad simultaneously. Complicated. Failing, impulsive, tortured, traumatized, and not coping in a healthy way (see: Louis paying Regina to pretend to be Claudia).

Lestat misgendering the fang gang member was to illustrate how out of touch, inconsiderate, and boomerish he could be. By your logic, I should be mad at you for even continuing to watch this in the first place. Lestat murdered Lily and threw her away like trash for completely selfish and manipulative reasons. And here you are tuning into TVL every Sunday.

You are watching a story about people who suck. Stop being so surprised when they suck.

You are also watching an adaptation that has never followed the book or timelines since episode 1. Why doesn’t TVL get a pass on that like the first two seasons did?

I have just been so baffled by the criticism this season has received when we were ~blessed~ by such incredible, emotional performances. I am in the mental health field, and am someone who is deeply interested in portrayals of trauma and resilience in media, and I think the ways that they have explored trauma, grief, longing, and other complicated emotions has just been phenomenal.

Anyway

#tvl discourse #tvl discussion #tvl #the vampire lestat #iwtv #interview with the vampire #Daniel fucking molloy #Lestat

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this inspired me

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Random IWTV/TVL Thought 1,183,832:

It seems like a lot of people in the fandom are conflating the ideas that “If the show makes decisions that you personally don’t like then that automatically equates to bad writing”.

Example:

“The monsters are acting monstrous…how dare they 🫨🫨”.

-I don’t know what else you expect a monster to do 🤨

“Claudia called Louis a slave… how dare the writers 🫨🫨”.

-Like it’s not a continuation from the first time she referred to herself and Louis as Lestat’s slaves in Season 1 Episode 6 🤨

“How dare Armand and Daniel do that to Louis and Lestat🫨🫨”

-What part of DEVIL and his MINION was unclear 🤨

“How can you still like Daniel after he used a student aggressively 🫨🫨”.

-Because it was already established that Daniel is a sexual sadist sometimes and I’m not going to act shocked that the bad person was bad and did bad things 😐 No one is obligated to have the same moral code they do in reality applied to fictional characters 🤨

Take a deep breath and say it with me:

“ They’re Characters not Role Models”. Once again, big breath in: “They’re Characters not Role Models” 🧘🏾‍♀️😮‍💨🧘🏾‍♀️😮‍💨

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when you’re on a self emprovement journey but it’s not working out so you just decide to kill and maim again

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THE VAMPIRE LESTAT Episode 5 — New York

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I could stare at this all day...

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Every time I think Assad couldn’t possibly impress me any further at this point… he does.

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the smallest boy in the world

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he's immortal. he's bisexual. he picks lint off the sofa. his stare is unsettling. his tits are diabolical. he hasn't been painted in over 400 years. he's had an aerobic evening that even vc andrews would find questionable. he recites shakespeare with his fuckass bouquet. his clothes are off. his face is down in the coffin. he couldn't prevent it. he's divorced. he's gone off the grid. his firstborn is an old man.

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Sometimes I need to take a moment to consider the Loumand fight. Armand was able to brush off 'you were sexually abused as a child and that's why you're a bitch bottom now' but the grade school insult 'you're boring' (said by someone off his head on coke) is what sends him into a week long torture spiral? No one does it like him. ❤️

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The issue that these vampires deal with all the time and consistently throughout the books is the fact that you never die. You never know, really, what is the meaning of anything. And religion, throughout the ages, 'cause these are old creatures, is the main catechism that kind of keeps running at them.