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Trans activists offline.
They prove they arenât oppressed whenever they do things like this with zero consequence.
I stg lesbian comedians keep showing up on tv shows my mother watches and every time i'm like "oh cool"
and then every time all their jokes end up being about how gIrLs DoN't HaVe DiCkS and i'm like
yea how dare lesbians make jokes about their own experiences related to their sexuality
how dare they state biological facts
Wanting to hurt gay people for being gay, you're so woke op
op is a homophobe who likes to joke about stoning lesbians
Sometimes the loudest voices in the room arenât always right. The majority isnât always right. Even if youâre the minority... youâve got a voice and it deserves to be heard
how the fuck can you be like that??
Oh my god this lack of respect for community elders is vomit inducing.
Anyways I love older dykes!!!
Just a reminder from his first wife that Elon Musk is not a good person.
The article this is from is pretty illuminating, if you want to give it a read.
Me too
I really want to be attracted to penises so I can be a better person. I've tried meditation, hypnosis, and reading media written by trans people, but penises still seem unpleasant. Any advice?
You canât force yourself to be attracted to penises, anon. Just make sure that when youâre talking about trans people, you donât equate them with their genitalia - for example, by saying, âI would never date a trans woman, because I donât like penises.â Equating trans people with their genitals is wrong because 1) it perpetuates the cultural fixation on our body parts, and this contributes to anti-trans violence; and 2) you donât know what a personâs genitals are until you ask. Some trans women have penises; some donât. Thatâs why itâs transphobic to say that you just arenât attracted to trans women - because itâs making a blanket assumption about an oppressed group of people.Â
Bottom line: try to avoid making statements about other people that imply something that may or may not be true. And know that itâs okay to simply state:Â âIâm not attracted to people with penises.â Makes sense?
This is a great response but I want to correct one thing and also add to it. The problem with âIâm not attracted to people with penisesâ is that attraction isnât usually based on genitals. Of course they play a part in sex and sexual attraction, but attraction generally begins before we can even know for sure what genitals the person weâre attracted to has.Â
Anon, if you see a woman on the bus who youâre attracted to, you canât know for sure what genitalia she actually has, and your attraction to her wonât (or at least shouldnât) become completely void if you get to know her and she tells you she has a penis. If you were attracted to her face when you were first attracted to her, she still has the same face that she had before you knew what her genitals were, so it wouldnât make sense for you to suddenly have no attraction to her face. The same goes for any other aspect of a person that you might be attracted to, including personality, which is super important.Â
Essentially, genitals do not define a person, so you can be attracted to a person without being attracted to their genitals. There are so many aspects to every human being (even physical aspects) that have nothing to do with what genitals they have. You can date trans women - even trans women who havenât gotten genital surgery - and not be attracted to penises. And you wonât be forced to interact with their genitals unless you actually want to.
This is coming from a lesbian who is currently dating a trans woman and has dated a couple others in the past, and is repulsed by penises. None of the trans women Iâve dated have forced me to interact with their genitals in any way, and itâs common for trans women not to even want their sexual partners to interact with their genitals in any way. The first person I had sex with was a trans girl, and she interacted with my genitals, but I never interacted directly with hers. My current (long-distance) girlfriend and I have shared orgasms through skype and sheâs seen my genitals, but I havenât seen hers.*
That being said, I do want to give the anon some tips related to the question they were actually asking, based on my own experience of being in the process of trying to warm myself up to the genitals of trans girlfriends (past and present). If youâre not currently either dating a trans woman or wanting to date a specific trans woman youâre attracted to, then you donât have to worry about this, and you should follow Marsâs advice of just not trying to be attracted to penises (since you arenât and thatâs ok). If you are dating a trans woman and want to pleasure her but arenât attracted to her genitals, here are some tips (for cis women, but if youâre a cis man or transmasculine person a lot of these can apply as well):
1. Donât think of it as a penis. Many trans women (who havenât gotten genital surgery) actually think of their own genitals as a vulva, with the âpenisâ actually being a clit and the âscrotumâ actually being labia. Itâs is pretty accurate considering that this was literally true even by cissexist biological essentiallist standards while she was in the womb, and that having been on HRT for even just a few weeks, trans womenâs genitals actually behave more like cis womenâs clits than cis menâs penises. So itâs a clit, not a penis. (Itâs actually really important when talking about trans womenâs genitals to not refer to them universally as penises even when just talking about trans women who havenât had genital surgery, because for some trans women, referring to their genitals as a âpenisâ can invoke extreme dysphoria.) Itâs also worth nothing that trans menâs genitals start behaving more like cis menâs penises than cis womenâs clitorises after theyâve been on HRT for a while, so if youâre with a trans man and feel weird about his genitals, you can think of his âclitâ as a cock.
2. Make sure your girlfriend knows youâre attracted to her, even if youâre not attracted to her genitals. Think her face and overall appearance is beautiful? Tell her that. Think she looks sexy when sheâs wearing lingerie for you? Tell her that. Think her face looks sexy when sheâs receiving some sort of sexual pleasure (like nipple stimulation, or masturbation while youâre on top of her and looking at her face)? Tell her she looks sexy. As I said before, there are so many aspects (even physical ones) of a person that can be beautiful even if that personâs genitals arenât. Make sure your girlfriend knows that you really do find her attractive, physically as well as mentally and emotionally.
*3. Take your time. Iâd advise touching before seeing, and touching through clothing before under clothing. Rubbing your crotch against hers while both fully clothed, or both in just underwear, can be really wonderful (Iâve only done it fully clothed so far with an ex). While rubbing, just think about how good it feels for you (and her), instead of thinking about what youâre rubbing your clit against. Months later with the same ex, I finally felt ready to feel her crotch with my hands, but not go under her underwear. She told me informatively when I inquired about it that she probably wouldnât be able to orgasm unless I went under her underwear, but she didnât force or coerce me into doing it, and it probably would have been another couple months before I would have felt ready (even though at that point in our relationship she had become extremely good at fingering me, and sheâd also eaten me out). If your girlfriend coerces (or forces) you to do anything you donât want to do, or shows you her genitals before you say youâre ready to see them, thatâs bad, but most trans girls are decent human beings who wouldnât do that to someone they care about. With my current long-distance girlfriend, I actually once did ask if I could see her genitals, and we decided the best way to do it was to have her take photos and e-mail them to me so I would be in total control of whether, and for how long, I would see them. She reminded me plenty of times that I did not have to open the e-mail if I did not want to, and I could even delete it. I did end up being able to muster the confidence to open the e-mail, but I only looked at two of the six or so photos, and I could only look at them for a second or less due to the repulsion I still feel towards genitals like hers. I might try looking at it again sometime and seeing if I can look at any of the photos for longer, or I might just go with the touching-through-clothing-first strategy after she arrives here (btw you can help us out with that). Small steps are still steps that you should feel proud of yourself for, and even effort is something you should feel proud of yourself for with regards to warming up to something that you naturally feel repulsed about. (Btw anon, this includes the meditation and hynosis that youâve tried.) It can take months or even years, and thatâs okay. Itâs also worth noting that you might never actually fully feel ready to interact with her genitals, and your repulsion might not fully go away. Itâs perfectly legitimate to decide to just pleasure her even though you feel uncomfortable doing it because of her genitals (as long as itâs a non-coerced decision that you made), and itâs also perfectly okay to go through your relationship without ever interacting with her genitals unless she gets genital surgery. (If you do the latter you might want to talk to her about maybe having some sort of poly-relationship where someone else will give her the pleasure she craves, and it would also be perfectly legitimate for her to decide to break up with you if she wants a monogamous relationship where her partner gives her genital stimulation. As stated before, however, some trans women donât actually want to receive any genital stimulation from sexual partners, so it could easily work out if youâre dating one with that preference.) Itâs also worth mentioning that just like how it wouldnât be okay for her to force or coerce you to see or touch her genitals, itâs not ok for you to force or coerce her into getting genital surgery if sheâs not absolutely and independently sure that she wants it. (As a side note to that, stating a preference is not the same as coercion. Both of my trans exes as well as my current girlfriend have told me that they would like for me to touch their genitals, but none of them have coerced me into doing it. They all made it clear that whether-or-not I do it is entirely up to me.)
4. There are plenty of non-traditional ways you can have sex and interact with her genitals. Hereâs one. Hereâs another (and hereâs a slightly more descriptive guide to it). That last link was from a whole zine (written by trans women) called âFucking Trans Womenâ, which is available online for $5. Also, here are some suggestions for pleasuring her even if youâre not comfortable with touching her genitals at all. Basically, sex with your trans girlfriend does not have to be like sex with a cis guy in any way, even if you give her genital stimulation.
That was really long but I hope itâs helpful to at least someone who reads it. If you take only one thing away from this, I hope itâs that trans women are women so if youâre attracted to women you should be open to dating trans women, even if you donât like penises.
This is what these idiots are preaching⊠did you guys take notes from my abusive ex? If someone coerces, pressures or forces you to do anything sexual itâs not just âbad,â itâs sexual assault or rape and you should run the fuck away because it only goes downhill from there. Also, no one owes anyone a date or sex of any kind regardless of who theyâre attracted to, this should be basic shit. No one is obligated to think of your genitals as anything other than what they are, no one has to put their trauma or feelings aside to get you off, no one has to date or stay with someone they are not attracted to or do not want to have sex with. It is perfectly okay to absolutely never have sex with someone even if they change some aspect of themselves⊠like are you all serious with this? âUnless they have surgery?â Not one of you is concerned about why anon wants to like penis to be a better person?? In a fucking patriarchy?? You all are something else
This is rape. Youâre literally fucking promoting corrective rape. Guess what, I think dicks are fucking gross, I donât care who itâs attached to. I donât have to âexamineâ why I donât like them, and I donât have to force myself to like them. Theyâre fucking gross. End of story. You sound just like the MAN who raped me and told me the entire time that all I needed was the right dick to come along and prove Iâm not ~actually~ lesbian. Guess what, Iâm still a lesbian, I still hate dick, and I still love vulva. There is literally no difference between a man forcing his dick on me to teach me a lesson, and you forcing your gross dicks on lesbians to ~make them better people~. Youâre still a man, and youâre still normalizing rape.
Leave young girls alone, you vile fucking rapists.Â
Look at all those instructions for how to get a lesbian to interact with a male body sexually. âDonât think of it as a penisâ, âtouch it through clothes firstâ. These people are fucking disgusting.
When a lesbian comes to you saying âI want to like dicks to be a better personâ the correct answer is âyou donât have to ever like dicks to be a good person. Only date who youâre attracted to and never apologize for yourselfâ.
You donât write a fucking novel to help ease her into self-inflicted conversion therapy.
@earthmoonlotus @afrohoneycomb
You do both realize youâre literally advocating for grooming of lesbians to like dick, right?
Do you not see how fundamentally disgusting and wrong that is?
Listen to what the radfems are saying in this post, please.
Iâm a transwoman and also telling you that under no circumstances should you ever feel like you need to like penises or date transwomen. If a transwoman calls you transphobic for it, theyâre WRONG, itâs not transphobic. Youâre not doing anything wrong or evil by not like penises or transwomen.
If a transwoman tries to get you to change your mind on that, get away from them as fast as possible and do not trust them.
Please stop promoting corrective rape and that lesbians should like penis and transwomen.
If transwomen also canât accept no then that is another reason to get away from them quickly.
Anon please read what the radfems are saying.
This is the most horrific, homophobic conversion therapy shit I have seen on this website ever. Iâve seen some pretty bad shit but oh my god this is the worst. LEAVE LESBIANS ALONE YOU SICK FUCKS
My mom using the everyone is bisexual excuse to get me to not be gay she stopped using you gotta be straight now she says itâs better if youâre bisexual
My mom (actually had a female lover/my godmother) & she told me itâs OK to be attracted to women so long as you donât plan to marry one (which she knew I was planning when I came out as gay). Yeah hets & bis have been pushing bisexuality is better then gay since forever.
wtf, HYPNOSIS? anon tried to hypnotise themselves to like penises? this is literal conversion therapy! lesbians are being guilt-tripped into performing home-based conversion therapy! how is this not a national outrage?
anon, these people are giving no concern about your personal boundaries. i hope you come to see that your sexuality is an amazing part of you and doesnât need to be changed to accommodate others.
This is your beloved cotton ceiling rhetoric. Look at it for what it is:
Rape culture.
Iâm gonna fucking throw up.
Trans activists offline.
This was shared by several âtransâ facebook pages with 99% of the reactions being âhahaâ âI love itâ âthis is so me heheheâ âwhy not be both uwuâÂ
queers for literally like 8 years straight: MARSHA P JOHNSON GAVE US OUR RIGHTS WHEN SHE THREW THE FIRST BRICK AT STONEWALL!!! REMEMBER HER NAME!!
queers when it turns out that was storme delarverie: its so reductive to put so much emphasis on this one event....the instigator is ultimately irrelevant.....idk why everyone cares so much about who threw the brick all of a sudden when in the big picture it doesn't really matter!
A few years later:
Funny how they never say âopposite sex attraction would disappearâ in this pomo-pervert-paradise of theirs.Â
Right? Come on, TRAs! Tell me Iâm transphobic because Iâd never date a transman. Not a single one of you has done so in five years. Whoâd like to be the first?
Lesbians who specify in dating apps that we arenât interested in dating transwomen (aka men) are apparently  âprejudicedâ and âcruelâ.
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I think of this every time trans activists demonize me for hating transwomen.
Hereâs the thing - trans activist support these literal woman hating incels. I donât. Donât talk to me about being on âthe right side of historyâ if you support these ugly ass men.
Not liking coconut has nothing to do with sexuality. Itâs NOT the same thing.
You can exclude food from your body, but not me from your body.
Said every man ever
Oh waitâŠ.
âheterosexual cultureâ is actually literally just misogyny in action and like women are suffering in these relationships and itâs not funny to joke about
Actually, more women are suffering abuse in lesbian relationships (43.8%) than in heterosexual relaitonships (35%). Gay men suffer the least amount of abuse in their relationships (26%), which is less than men experience in heterosexual relationships (29%). And I would take into account the fact that men are less likely to call the cops and have women prosecuted when theyâre abused. So we can stop acting like men are the inherently violent gender. Thanks, bye.Â
Damn, thatâs pretty bad. Do you have sources for these claims?
http://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/nisvs_sofindings.pdf
The numbers differ quite a bit, so Iâm not sure where the person who was writing the article I read was coming from, but it still shows that between homosexual and heterosexual relationships, homosexual relationships are far more likely to become abusive. Lesbian relationships even more so. Keep in mind, these numbers come from likelihoods of abuse of a lifetime, so it would make sense that bisexual men and women are the most likely to end up in an abusive relationships in their lives.Â
This is NOT, repeat NOT, what this data tells us.
Here are the relevant statistics from this survey:
Can you see the problem?
These figures tell us the percentage of people, by sex and sexual orientation, who have ever in their lives been a victim of rape, physical violence, or stalking by an intimate partner.
This is a VERY DIFFERENT THING from the percentage of straight vs. gay relationships that are abusive, or the percentage of people in straight vs. gay relationships that are being abused, or anything in that vein. Itâs not even clear what exactly youâre claiming these numbers represent, but itâs wrong.
These numbers are simply not about relationship type.
One obvious problem is that you assume that if a lesbian is abused, she MUST be abused in a lesbian relationship. But this is NOT a reasonable assumption. Many lesbians and gay men have been in one or more straight relationships at some point in their lives.
As you can see from the right column, only 67.4% of lesbians who suffered intimate partner violence reported having only female perpetrators. That means that a significant amount of the abuse suffered by lesbians occurred in the context of straight relationships.
Further, these numbers give us NO relationship-level data. Someone who has been abused in one relationship is counted the same as someone who has been abused in ten relationships. We also have no idea how many relationships these people have had total. So EVEN IF the lesbians were all only ever in lesbian relationships â WHICH THEY WERENâT â this would still tell us NOTHING about whether lesbian relationships are more likely to be abusive.
Again, in conclusion: These numbers CANNOT TELL US whether gay relationships or straight relationships are more likely to be abusive.
Please do not post inflammatory statistics like this unless you ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT THEY MEAN.
I agree that these statistics canât be used to say that homosexual people of any gender are more or less likely to be abusive.
But it does, along with other statistics from that study, illustrate that men and women are victims of abuse at pretty much the same rate and are abusive at nearly the same rates. Which is all the original commenter was trying to say. That men arenât inherently more violent than women are. That heterosexual relationships arenât more damaging to women than they are to men.
Nope, it doesnât. The women in the survey were dramatically more likely to have been raped or stalked in their lifetimes than the men, and less likely to have experienced other physical violence from an intimate partner, even if the difference for other physical violence between straight women and straight men was fairly small.
It MOST CERTAINLY does not show that âmen and women [âŠ] are abusive at nearly the same rates.â There is simply NO DATA in this survey on rates of ABUSIVENESS, only on rates of HAVING BEEN ABUSED. If you canât tell the difference between these two things, thatâs a real problem.
And no, you canât just extrapolate the former from the latter. Letâs imagine a fictional community in which everyone is straight. Letâs say that in this community, 25% of the women have been abused in a relationship at some point. How many of the men in this community are abusive? Trick question: There is not enough information! It could be less than 25%, if a few abusive men all abused many women. It could be more than 25%, if a larger group of men targeted the same women, so some women were abused by multiple men. There is simply no way to say without more information. (You can flip the genders around in this example if you want; itâs just as impossible to say either way.)
And again, neither the real data in this survey nor the fake data in this example can tell us anything about how likely a given relationship is to be abusive for either the man or the woman.
You are making the same kinds of statistical mistakes that the previous person was, and that so many others have before you. Regardless of what the truth is about gender and partner violence â which I donât care to argue with you about either way â the data in this survey simply cannot support your claims.
Reblogging for the murder i just witnessed.
a male trans person who was looking at child porn of boys as young as five ears old is being allowed to not register as a sex offender because âa court found she [sic] did it at a time when she [sic] was struggling with her sexual identity.â
you do not find images of five year old boys out of curiosity. this is truly outrageous.
https://www.sclqld.org.au/caselaw/QCA/2019/214
Progressive mansplaining !
(And yes I did blur this poor dogâs face to save him/her the embarrassment.)
how do men this weak even manage to survive
men: what are these feminists talking about? we donât objectify women
also men: the ideal woman is literally just an object shaped like a womanâs body
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