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no no no no no no no fuck this tumblr app update it immediately makes the app less user friendly, what the fuck do you mean I can’t just click reblog and REBLOG, i can’t just click on the notes to SEE them, I hate this I hate this I hate this @staff @support boo, 0/10 stars, this update sucks and is going to make engagement worse
Psssst…. When the anti-defamation league SPECIFICALLY calls out anti-Jewish phrases like “from the river to the sea” or “globalize the intifada” that are parroted by pro-Palestinian movements who don’t understand what those phrases mean in context to their anti-Jewish origins… they aren’t saying you can’t be critical of Israel or are somehow against the Palestinian people. What they’re saying is that in your attempt to be pro-Palestine you are spreading WELL KNOWN AND DOCUMENTED antisemitic rhetoric and hate speech.
You can be pro-Palestinian without resorting to antisemitism. You can be anti-Israel government without being antisemitic. You can be critical of how Israel has handled the situation in Gaza, and you can be pro-Palestine… but if you start labeling EVERYTHING that is even remotely related to Israel as “nazism” and repeat Hamas anti-Jewish slogans… then you ARE being antisemitic and helping spread antisemitism.
The ones draining meaning of antisemitism isn’t the anti-defamation league, its people like you who don’t listen to us Jews when we tell you those slogans are literally antisemitic rhetoric.
you're conflating the Israeli govenment with the entire Jewish population of Earth and that's the biggest piece of antisemetism I could ever conceive of.
That’s literally the point of antisemitic rhetoric. To conflate the two. When you say “globalize the intifada” we get horrors like October 7th and the shooting in Australia. Terrorist acts targeting Jewish people in the name of stopping Israel.
My entire post is about listening to Jewish voices and suggesting that you CAN be critical of the Israeli government WITHOUT resorting to using antisemitic chants and phrases that harm real Jewish people, and your response is “don’t conflate the two.”
Buddy… you’re the one conflating them.
you're not explaining how they're antisemetic and not just anti-Isreal so please forgive me for being skeptical in this case.
Oh, okay…
So let’s take the phrase “from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.”
From the river to the sea is the space where Israel exists. It’s a rallying cry, yes… but it’s ALSO explicit instructions from Hamas. From “the river to the sea kill all the Jews in this land so Palestine can be free of the Jewish infestation.” This is documented in Hamas’s own manifestos and scripture.
So while YOU think that it means free Palestine from Israel control, THEY believe it means “kill all Jews in Israel and take the land back.”
Subsequently, suggesting that Jews don’t have ties to the land (which they do) is itself a form of Jewish historical erasure. Israel is the land the Jews fled to after being expelled from Egypt, and it’s been conquered and re-conquered time and time again throughout history. First by the Romans (remember, Jesus was a Jew), and then by the Saudi’s. So if your opinion of “colonization is bad!” only goes as far back to when Arabs conquered the land, then this mantra of getting rid of Israel doesn’t really hold much water outside being a rallying cry to rid the world of the largest Jewish population on the planet.
THAT is how those phrases are antisemitic. They are dog whistles for terrorists to spread their mantra and you’re falling for it. It’s like saying “states rights” instead of “keep segregation.” One sounds friendlier and more righteous, while actually being a code for the people who want to keep things divided.
And you can tell this is dog whistles because if you check when Hamas changed their wording they conveniently just changed the word “Jew” to “Zionist” without changing ANY of the surrounding language. Which means for them at least Zionist just means Jews. So when they call for ridding the world of Zionism, they are specifically calling to rid the world of Jews.
Now… You ABSOLUTELY can criticize Israel for what they’re currently doing. But you can do so WITHOUT repeating the phrases that harm Jewish people in the process. And when we say “hey, this is problematic and antisemitic, please don’t do that” your initial response shouldn’t be to scream at us and demand we PROVE IT! If a black person told you you can’t use certain words or phrases because they’re racist words you would concede to their judgement, right? So why is this any different?
ok do you have any proof of that? Or are you taking the co-opting of phrases from extreme groups radicalized by oppression as representative of a phrase origin or the majority opinion of those phrases? And why are you glossing over the fact that Hamas's history with Judaism is way more complicated than you're making it out to be? Not defending their actions of course but you're trying to paint a very black and white picture here. Also, who's "they"? Edit: this might be me overreacting but given the amount of conflation out there between any opposition to Israel and antisemitism and the accompanying dismissal of Palestinian perspectives in favor of Israel-fed propaganda, it's hard to tell a valid criticism apart from the crowd.
I find this type of response annoying because I already gave you proof.
History.
Just look up ancient Jewish artifacts and where they were found. They pre-date the Roman Empire and were found in the area that is today modern Israel. Jewish text refer to their ancestral land of Israel. Like this is not hard to find information, and your “where’s your proof” response is deflection and annoying.
Same goes for the Hamas stuff. You can read Hamas’s own charter where they call for the death of all Jews and how they want to “finish what Hitler started.” Their words, not mine. And then you can compare the original charter with the updated one and note that the only difference was they changed Jew to Zionist. No other surrounding language was changed, just a simple copy paste edit to create plausible deniability.
Like this is basic stuff. Anyone who’s familiar with the Bible should know most of this history too cuz it was written during that time. Moses’s entire story is about being exiled from Egypt and finding the promised lands ordained by god. It references the fact that Jesus was a Jew and was prosecuted by the Romans who had invaded the lands.
God this is so obnoxious. Why are we the bearer of proof? Why can’t you guys look this stuff up yourself when you’re in doubt? Why must we walk you through our own antisemitism traumas over and over again until you believe us?
Psssst…. When the anti-defamation league SPECIFICALLY calls out anti-Jewish phrases like “from the river to the sea” or “globalize the intifada” that are parroted by pro-Palestinian movements who don’t understand what those phrases mean in context to their anti-Jewish origins… they aren’t saying you can’t be critical of Israel or are somehow against the Palestinian people. What they’re saying is that in your attempt to be pro-Palestine you are spreading WELL KNOWN AND DOCUMENTED antisemitic rhetoric and hate speech.
You can be pro-Palestinian without resorting to antisemitism. You can be anti-Israel government without being antisemitic. You can be critical of how Israel has handled the situation in Gaza, and you can be pro-Palestine… but if you start labeling EVERYTHING that is even remotely related to Israel as “nazism” and repeat Hamas anti-Jewish slogans… then you ARE being antisemitic and helping spread antisemitism.
The ones draining meaning of antisemitism isn’t the anti-defamation league, its people like you who don’t listen to us Jews when we tell you those slogans are literally antisemitic rhetoric.
you're conflating the Israeli govenment with the entire Jewish population of Earth and that's the biggest piece of antisemetism I could ever conceive of.
That’s literally the point of antisemitic rhetoric. To conflate the two. When you say “globalize the intifada” we get horrors like October 7th and the shooting in Australia. Terrorist acts targeting Jewish people in the name of stopping Israel.
My entire post is about listening to Jewish voices and suggesting that you CAN be critical of the Israeli government WITHOUT resorting to using antisemitic chants and phrases that harm real Jewish people, and your response is “don’t conflate the two.”
Buddy… you’re the one conflating them.
you're not explaining how they're antisemetic and not just anti-Isreal so please forgive me for being skeptical in this case.
Oh, okay…
So let’s take the phrase “from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.”
From the river to the sea is the space where Israel exists. It’s a rallying cry, yes… but it’s ALSO explicit instructions from Hamas. From “the river to the sea kill all the Jews in this land so Palestine can be free of the Jewish infestation.” This is documented in Hamas’s own manifestos and scripture.
So while YOU think that it means free Palestine from Israel control, THEY believe it means “kill all Jews in Israel and take the land back.”
Subsequently, suggesting that Jews don’t have ties to the land (which they do) is itself a form of Jewish historical erasure. Israel is the land the Jews fled to after being expelled from Egypt, and it’s been conquered and re-conquered time and time again throughout history. First by the Romans (remember, Jesus was a Jew), and then by the Saudi’s. So if your opinion of “colonization is bad!” only goes as far back to when Arabs conquered the land, then this mantra of getting rid of Israel doesn’t really hold much water outside being a rallying cry to rid the world of the largest Jewish population on the planet.
THAT is how those phrases are antisemitic. They are dog whistles for terrorists to spread their mantra and you’re falling for it. It’s like saying “states rights” instead of “keep segregation.” One sounds friendlier and more righteous, while actually being a code for the people who want to keep things divided.
And you can tell this is dog whistles because if you check when Hamas changed their wording they conveniently just changed the word “Jew” to “Zionist” without changing ANY of the surrounding language. Which means for them at least Zionist just means Jews. So when they call for ridding the world of Zionism, they are specifically calling to rid the world of Jews.
Now… You ABSOLUTELY can criticize Israel for what they’re currently doing. But you can do so WITHOUT repeating the phrases that harm Jewish people in the process. And when we say “hey, this is problematic and antisemitic, please don’t do that” your initial response shouldn’t be to scream at us and demand we PROVE IT! If a black person told you you can’t use certain words or phrases because they’re racist words you would concede to their judgement, right? So why is this any different?
Psssst…. When the anti-defamation league SPECIFICALLY calls out anti-Jewish phrases like “from the river to the sea” or “globalize the intifada” that are parroted by pro-Palestinian movements who don’t understand what those phrases mean in context to their anti-Jewish origins… they aren’t saying you can’t be critical of Israel or are somehow against the Palestinian people. What they’re saying is that in your attempt to be pro-Palestine you are spreading WELL KNOWN AND DOCUMENTED antisemitic rhetoric and hate speech.
You can be pro-Palestinian without resorting to antisemitism. You can be anti-Israel government without being antisemitic. You can be critical of how Israel has handled the situation in Gaza, and you can be pro-Palestine… but if you start labeling EVERYTHING that is even remotely related to Israel as “nazism” and repeat Hamas anti-Jewish slogans… then you ARE being antisemitic and helping spread antisemitism.
The ones draining meaning of antisemitism isn’t the anti-defamation league, its people like you who don’t listen to us Jews when we tell you those slogans are literally antisemitic rhetoric.
you're conflating the Israeli govenment with the entire Jewish population of Earth and that's the biggest piece of antisemetism I could ever conceive of.
That’s literally the point of antisemitic rhetoric. To conflate the two. When you say “globalize the intifada” we get horrors like October 7th and the shooting in Australia. Terrorist acts targeting Jewish people in the name of stopping Israel.
My entire post is about listening to Jewish voices and suggesting that you CAN be critical of the Israeli government WITHOUT resorting to using antisemitic chants and phrases that harm real Jewish people, and your response is “don’t conflate the two.”
Buddy… you’re the one conflating them.
Psssst…. When the anti-defamation league SPECIFICALLY calls out anti-Jewish phrases like “from the river to the sea” or “globalize the intifada” that are parroted by pro-Palestinian movements who don’t understand what those phrases mean in context to their anti-Jewish origins… they aren’t saying you can’t be critical of Israel or are somehow against the Palestinian people. What they’re saying is that in your attempt to be pro-Palestine you are spreading WELL KNOWN AND DOCUMENTED antisemitic rhetoric and hate speech.
You can be pro-Palestinian without resorting to antisemitism. You can be anti-Israel government without being antisemitic. You can be critical of how Israel has handled the situation in Gaza, and you can be pro-Palestine… but if you start labeling EVERYTHING that is even remotely related to Israel as “nazism” and repeat Hamas anti-Jewish slogans… then you ARE being antisemitic and helping spread antisemitism.
The ones draining meaning of antisemitism isn’t the anti-defamation league, its people like you who don’t listen to us Jews when we tell you those slogans are literally antisemitic rhetoric.
It shouldn't be a surprise to you to learn that the IDF is heavily intertwined with not only the NYPD but police departments all over the US.
And I’m sure the fact that New York has a very long history of Jewish immigration has nothing to do with your blatant antisemitism, yeah?
Yo chat is it antisemitic to point out that Israel, a violent settler colony known for carrying out a genocide is training our police departments??
Both these entities are known for systemic racism and carrying out extrajudicial force.
Both also happen to lean on white supremacy to carry these things out with impunity.
Im very confused as to why you thought tying Jewish identity to these two violent institutions was a good card to play here??
Immigration is just a dumb deflection and you're a clown lol
Yo chat is it antisemitic to believe Jewish replacement conspiracy theories and then block the person you’re asking to defend their argument like a monkey covering its ears? Can’t have your viewpoint challenged if you don’t let them speak in the first place, right?
So let’s start here: Israel isn’t a settler colonizing state. It’s actually the greatest example of DEcolonization in the world’s history. Israel is like if we gave America back to the native Americans. The history of Israel is about being colonized again and again and again. By the Romans, the Saudi’s, The Ottomans, etc. So we finally give the land BACK to the Jews after centuries of colonialism and you think THAT’S somehow them being a “colonizing state?” You gonna ignore that prior to this the land had been colonized by the Saudi’s? And before that by the fucking Romans? That just shows how ignorant of history you are. Begs the question of how long does colonization have to last before it’s no longer colonization in your eyes, huh? Cuz if you keep playing the game of “who settles in the land first” you’ll eventually find that it was the Jews.
And yes… when you list New York City and Israel, two places with the largest Jewish populations on earth, and connect the dots between them as violent forces… I’m gonna say that the underlying argument is coded to be antisemitic, yeah. Your comment about using “white supremacy” is especially telling because Israel isn’t white. And neither are Jews. To believe the conflict in Gaza is somehow white supremacy violence on brown skinned people is not just ignorant but is also an attempt to erase Jewish culture and heritage from Israel so you can believe the lie that they’re white colonizers more easily.
Oh and about that genocide remark. If Israel has been genociding Palestine/gaza for decades, why has the population for both GROWN? You guys are always like “it didn’t start on October 7th” as an excuse, so tell me why has the population of Palestine and Gaza grown since Israel was “established” in the 1940’s? Genocide doesn’t take 80 years. Also for that matter why hasn’t the JEWISH population been able to grow just as fast after what happened in the 1940’s? And why is the supposed genocide of Gaza and Palestine conditional on a ceasefire and peace treaty? That’s not usually how genocide works. The answer is pretty simple, it’s not a genocide it’s a war. This is what war looks like. It’s not pretty, and it’s often horrifying… but a genocide this is not.
You wanna know what a REAL genocide looks like? Check out what’s going on in Sudan. Satellites can actually see the blood in the streets.
And of course all of this ignores Hamas’s role in what’s happening. Resistance fighters don’t kidnap women and children. Resistance fighters don’t starve hostages. Resistance fighters don’t execute innocent civilians in the streets. Resistance fighters don’t hoard food and aid from the people starving. And, most importantly… resistance fighters don’t break peace agreements to slaughter women and children attending a music festival for peace. Hamas’s own charter states their goal is to kill all Jews.
So yeah, when you say something completely unhinged like “the IDF is working with the NYPD!” forgive me for thinking you’re being grossly misinformed and antisemitic. Because you are.
So fun fact… a lot of MAGA Republicans actually believe that antifa actually stands for “anti-first amendment” thanks to FOX NEWS. That’s why they’re so resentful towards antifa, they literally think it means a movement to take their guns away.
Such big talk from someone who's ego is so fragile that they'd go as far as to trash talk past employees solely because she was afraid of people going off and doing their own thing instead of working only on her crap 🤸🏾♀️💨
I’ve yet to see LEGIT criticism of her that isn’t MAGA level stupidity, so frankly I’m still on her side here. You guys are fucking nut jobs.
this means nothing lol but my autistic ass has to point out that the first major animated disney-released movie to come out after the owl house debuted was onward, which featured a van named guinevere, and the main characters have blue skin and hair. 5 years later dana terrace makes a show literally called "knights of guinevere", a scathing criticism of capitalism and large corporations like disney, featuring a mechanical princess named guinevere who has blue hair and skin.
That was Pixar, not Disney.
Tragedy in so many ways, another school shooting, an innocent man killed in front of his family...yet all the left can shout is gun control...of course
You…. Don’t think we should advocate for gun control? After a man was killed in front of his family and there was another school shooting??? This isn’t the time for that?
When is the time for it? Also why is this only a left issue?
Literally the comments surrounding all of this are so evil and sickening but demons love to celebrate death
Two things can coexist.
1. Killing people is wrong.
2. Charlie Kirk spent his life championing and pushing for the extremism that ultimately got him killed.
It’s not celebrating to acknowledge that.
Lotta weird shit getting put on my timeline recently so I just wanna reiterate that if you’re a Zionist and defend the illegitimate state of Israel that is currently committing one of if not the largest live-streamed child holocausts in history I need you to get the fuck out and reevaluate your life choices.
This blog supports the Palestinian people getting their fucking land back, and will not tolerate Israeli colonizer bullshit.
Hi, so you seemed to have unintentionally absorbed some Nazi rhetoric and don’t understand that you’re spreading dangerous antisemitism.
"largest live-streamed child holocausts."
Ah, so now we're switching the narrative here. Couldn't accurately claim they were committing Holocaust 2.0 against the entire Palestinian people, so now you're trying to claim it's just against the children.
Which also is inaccurate. World War 2 killed over 80 million people in total. A few thousand casualties in a war Palestine started is not even fucking CLOSE to the largest amount of deaths, let alone deaths of children, during war time, let alone any actual genocides.
@stoptheantisemitism I feel like you could chime in here better than I could.
"A few thousand casualties" is such a disgusting way to phrase the ongoing genocide of Palestinians.
@otakuvampyre is a Zionazi and nothing they or @freeisraelfromhate say should be taken seriously.
Amnesty, HRW, OHCHR, and even B'Tselem have called this a genocide. This IS a genocide and a modern day holocaust. No one is switching the narrative but you modern day Nazis love trying to dilute the situation.
Arguing with these collasal idiots is a waste of anyone's time. We all have access to the internet. We have all watched this genocide be live streamed for 2 years. We've seen the countless deaths on our phones. We've witnessed Zionazis try to suppress this by killing journalists. OP you are absolutely correct and I'm sorry these idiots tried to come in here calling you antisemitic. Ignore them and continue your advocacy for Palestinians.
No Zionist is an authority on antisemitism. Half of them are mourning the death of Nazis right now.
You know, when you block people and refuse to engage with open discussion it really just makes you out to be incapable of accepting the possibility you might be wrong about something. Someone says “hey, you are getting information incorrect here” and your response is to block them and dismiss them and pretend everything they say is a lie? That’s you putting your hands in your ears and screaming to drown out the truth.
You should try to discuss things with them before being a belligerent ass.
The left is irredeemably radical and violent. They need to be purged.
Charlie Kirk thinks children deserve to die so you can own a gun. Charlie Kirk platformed literal Nazis. Charlie Kirk supports Trump, a convicted felon who asked his followers to attack the government.
You’re the problem, not the left.
The lawlessness and violence we experience are a choice that those with power make. We could stop the overwhelming majority of this. We could be allowed to defend ourselves. We could return to a high-trust society.
We don't have to live like this. You should hate the people doing this to you.
Charlie Kirk says kids who die in mass shootings are necessary casualties. Love that you’re advocating killing children.
Maybe I'm at that geezer age (despite being in my mid 20s) but seeing my dash celebrate the recent news about Kirk is just...awful. Sure, he may have had some points that were contentious to me but he was also willing to debate them if you were willing to as well. Psychotic fucking behavior being shown all around, excuse my language.
Prayers to his family and friends, and take a moment to be with your loved ones as well everyone.
It's ghoulish.
If god forbid someone put a bullet in gavin newsome I would not cheer about it, same for people like rosie and whoopie and several others.
I'd probably just say nothing, which is fine to do in these situations I think.
For real like...
I literally agree with nearly nothing he said but like. Celebrating the murder of random political influencers is just opening the door for that happening more and more to BOTH sides of the political spectrum.
He wasn’t some “random political influencer.” He was one of the biggest political figures actively pushing Q-Anon, Right wing, MAGA conspiracy theories and lies. His company helped finance bribing the Supreme Court that is actively taking away your constitutional rights right now. He actively mocked when other political figures were shot and told kids who were traumatized by school shootings that they were “necessary causalities.”
He was actively one of the WORST HUMAN BEINGS on the fucking PLANET.
thinking about that time i (an art major) was hanging out with a guy (an engineering major) in college and the conversation got onto the topic of what art is and i said i have a rock solid, completely non-subjective definition that i go by, which he was very interested to hear. so i told him, "art is the product of human expression" and he did NOT like to hear that because that definition did not distinguish between different mediums of expression or quality or purpose of the art. and i told him that beyond that point there is no way to avoid subjectivity in the definition, and that there is no objective way to decide what forms of expressions qualify as art beyond its core purpose -- human expression. he let the conversation die after that
i suspect that my definition would still upset a lot of people, especially computer guys, but i really can't imagine a better definition for art. art exists as a product of human expression, our interpretation of existence -- without humans, there is no art, just the world existing for its own sake
I’ve always held a similar belief. Even something as utilitarian as a lamp post has an exterior that needs to be designed for more than just its raw function.
BREAKING: In an insane moment, Stephen Miller spews blatant lies about Trump's failing economy. On a day with only 22,000 jobs added, he says Trump "presided over the most extraordinary economic turnaround in history."
Nobody believes this nonsense.
Nobody NEEDS to believe it. He’s not playing to US. He’s playing to TRUMP. You can’t shame shameless people by pointing out their hypocrisy. They don’t CARE.
