If not now, when?

Name is Ace and I use they/she pronouns! Prospective convert :). Main blog is @autismwonderland

[seventyfaces]

I've had to remove a lot of internet people from my online life in the last year+, but the one whose reason I still boggle over is the one who decided that safe building standards are Jewish oppression of poor people.

Not sure I'll ever get over that one. Literally a case of "You self-built your house out of things that are going to go up in flames if someone looks at them wrong and fall over in a harsh wind, the electric needs to be up to code, etc etc." being taken as a sign of Jews oppressing people.

[seventyfaces]

Oh and also the person who thought it was Imperialism (tm) and Cultural Genocide (tm) for Israelis to use Hebrew terms for things instead of Arabic terms. Can't believe I forgot that one.

[seventyfaces]

But at least those two were straightforward. The one that gave me the most stress is the one where I just couldn't tell.

They'd post a lot about humanitarian problems in Gaza. They'd post fundraisers that I could not tell if they were funding terrorism or not; they didn't post any of the truly obvious scams.

They never made any posts that made it clear they understood that there was a lot of money going into Gaza and it was going to Hamas. That they understood that Egypt had a closed border with Gaza.

They never posted anything about the pain and suffering of the captives. They never posted anything about the pogrom. They never posted about any of the problems any Israelis were facing.

All they posted about was the humanitarian problems in Gaza. Which certainly exist.

I lived with that stress of it, waiting for them to unmask as an antisemite, for a long time, before I gave up and just stopped. Because it's possible that the only people they possible cared about were Gazans and they weren't going to be antisemitic about it, but... on the other hand, if the only people in this that you care about are Gazans, then I'm not sure how you are morally different from the first two people.

But was this the right decision? I suspect not. But-- it removed a great deal of stress from my life, always wondering, but not wanting to get it confirmed that yet another person who I greatly respected thinks that Jews don't count, and always wondering if this would be the day, if this would be the moment, when I'd find out.

I chickened out but yet, I'm not exactly chickening-in to go discover what has happened in the interim.

[seventyfaces]

Ah, Eurovision. When else will a bandom tumblr suddenly take a violent swerve, declare a wish for a violent death upon a singer, and scream fuck zionists free palestine. And then go back to bandom blogging as if that's a socially acceptable thing to say. Which in that person's world, I guess it is.

[seventyfaces]

The one liberal politics blog that hasn't gone full Hamasnik, and because of which I contribute money to it monthly, has now decided that Greta Thunberg is a victim and not to blame for, *checks notes*, a publicity stunt in a war zone that has not hurt her in the least and certainly helped her continued grandstanding and publicity-hounding existence.

[seventyfaces]

Turns out I'm still not immune to "oh shit, this one person I thought was okay just reblogged a post calling all Israelis 'settlers'. Oh no oh shit oh no, I was rooting for you, I was so hopeful, nooooo".

Hoping and praying this was an aberration. I don't want to lose someone else. This is the last person from that fandom I'm still following, the rest immediately became October 8th Nazis.

Please let this not be a sign. Please let this just be a random reblog. Please.

[glasspalacesstoneshop]

People being weird about the word “antisemitism” and insisting that it applies to Arabs fascinate me. They seem to think the point is defining a “semite” and not “we need a word for hating Jews”

[glasspalacesstoneshop]

Perhaps Wilhelm Marr thought Palestinians control the world economy. He’s too dead to ask

[sputnikcentury]

What is the fetish that fan creators have for making Jewish characters eat pork

[sputnikcentury]

They’re always so smug about it too like “tee hee it’s a sign that he’s conflicted in his faith! He’s assimilated!”

Shut up, he would not fucking eat that.

[strive-to-be-human]

It's cuz that's all they know about Jewishness. People "get bar-mitzvahed" and they are forbidden from eating pork. To not "get bar-mitzvahed" or to choose to eat pork is transgressive... But also guilt-inducing!

It's just so ignorant. You become bar-mitzvah whether you have a public ceremony about it or not and people engage with kashrut in all sorts of ways.

Truly, in the most cynical core of my Jewish heart, I think this goyishe obsession with making Jewish characters eat treyf is the same as it ever was. Did you know that there are rules for kashrut for plain, unprocessed milk? Not milk-products. Straight milk. And this is because - I kid you not - in the Middle Ages, Christians would go through the weird labor of milking their pigs and sneaking the sow's milk into Jewish milk barrels. There's some perverse fascination with making a person do something they don't want to do. (You can see this also with people tricking vegans into eating animal products or that infamous post about someone vending full-sugar soda to "skinny girls" who order diet.)

But it's especially egregious to do this to Jewish characters because of the millenia of history of real people doing real bullshit like this to real Jews.

[dispassionedgrace]

celebrating and encouraging the slaughter of jews makes you a bad person, it is irrelevant to me what political camp you stand in

[tikkunolamorgtfo]

Jewish celebrity: I’m Jewish. Like, a Jew. Member of the Tribe. Shalom.

Wikipedia: *was raised in a somewhat bagel-positive household*

[afurioushawk]

See? There's absolutely no benefit to letting these scorpions on your back. They're going to lie about you regardless. Let them sink or swim on their own accord and stop giving them your support, time, and money.

[afurioushawk]

[afurioushawk]

[short-wooloo]

Gaddafi built and prepared his military (very badly) for a war against Israel, a country that his doesn't not border, by a lot, like several thousand miles apart, because ideology mattered more than material reality or real issues his nation faced

[shofarsogood]

"Obama killed Gaddafi"

[nerdyqueerandjewish]

I’ve seen a few articles like “wow it turns out ICE and CBP agents might also be antisemitic?” and I swear yall are going to turn me into the joker for real

[nerdyqueerandjewish]

Who knew that people paid to violently uphold white nationalism could hate Jews

[the-njnb]

Somehow, without white supremacists ever being less vocal about their antisemitism, leftists have decided that akchually some Jews pass as white means all Jews are white means all Jews are white supremacists means all white supremacists love Jews. Also everything bad about the US is imported from Israel and all racists were trained by the idf to torture everyone else.

[phoukanamedpookie]

Stop giving them ideas!!! It's already hard enough being Black and Jewish because we supposedly don't exist.

[stele3]

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The campaign removed the language after drawing criticism online.

[glasspalacesstoneshop]

it's exactly that. it depends on what the particular political point being made is, but people often have what they consider to be the "start" of history. for most people in the west it's when Jesus happened. everything that happened before then, all the politics, empires, migration, it was all just setting up the chessboard, so to speak. since many Jews had already been exiled by that point, that's the starting position that they "belong" in

(I assume anon is talking about my tags on this post?)

But yeah no I have literally seen people claim that like, the historical place of Israel (not the state founded in 1948, like the historical empire sacked by the Romans) is a fiction because it’s in the Bible and the Bible isn’t real, but that’s basically like if you learned that Paper Towns by John Green was fictional and decided that the USA isn’t real. Like, Jerusalem and Rome are real places with ancient history that housed empires. And they are also places today that you can play Valorant in.

And if you’re Western Christian, especially American Christian, you’ve become very used to the way that the iconography of the Bible being decoupled from any actual location and are familiar with it as metaphor, to the extent that there is literally an American religion that decided that the Garden of Eden was in Missouri. And so when Jews go “no Jerusalem’s real. It’s right here and my ancestors were from there” Jews get a “yeah, suuuuure buddy” from gentiles and a bunch of jokes about how it was promised to them 3000 years ago, because acknowledging Jerusalem as a historical place is seen as tantamount to Biblical literalism.

For Americans, I would argue the date that begins history isn’t actually Jesus’s birth but rather sometime between ~1619-1776, when the U.S. was first being settled. You’ll notice that Hellenization and the Ottoman Empire aren’t seen as colonial because they were there before “the colonial world” and therefore their borders Just Are, and they don’t come as a product of history or anything.

Like, you’ll notice that the groups that were here in the the Americas aren’t taught as the output of thousands of years of history, and instead are taught as if they were static figures who have always been the people the were when the Europeans first met them, rather than as a continent/continents that had already seen the rise and fall of empires before Señor Colón stepped foot in this hemisphere.

[bilgisticallykosher]

Hi, friend!

This is a really unsettling but good point. I never really occurred to me.

אמן!

"He had Jewish parents." "She was born to Jews." It doesn't stop. We're from there, we're still native to there. We're still here.

[iswearbyalltheflowers]

[mariacallous]

Orthodox Jews are scootering to synagogue. Will Shabbat ever be the same?

With neighborhoods sprawling, a transportation hack opens up new possibilities — and tests the limits of the day of rest

[judea-forever]

Okay. Fellow members of the LGBTQ+ community... what the hell is going on

Y'all will take a character who is meant to be a very obvious allegory for the Jewish Experience and Antisemitism and somehow make it about queerness???? Y'all just can't stand Jews being Jews can you

[zonatcannibalism]

Goyim seem to have this view where Zionism and Judaism are fully separate groups and ideologies. Like, they think of judaism as a fully secular progressive modern culture and of "zionism" as a monoethnic inherently bigoted religious group. Its a very interesting case of cognitive dissonance. Makes sense with so much antisemites hiding behind anti theism ig, but it also really means as a whole something about the way to goyim the default jew is reform and progressive and secular and dosent suffer oppression, because people only hate zionists not jews, and they think of these as completely separate categories. Like i think i wrote some stuff about the way goyim see jews as blank slates without history or ethnicity before but they also see "zionists" as inherently ethnic and historical and they fucking hate it. The reason they struggle so much to understand why so many jews are zionists is because they dont see zionism as a part of judaism but as a whole separate group. Like if you asked these people to describe a jew they would describe the sitcom character that wears a Hanukkah sweater in the christmas episode and never does anything Jewish ever again, but if you ask them to describe a zionist theyll start talking about this group of people who controls the banks and leads a government conspiracy and are religious fanatics with big noses who are too racist to assimilate. Its very interesting because for a lot of our history being jewish was defined by being seen as inherently different, ethnic and cultural for refusing to assimilate and the zionist movement came because jews assimilated and the antisemitism still kept going. The zionist movement is very mazzinist (idk if people use that as a term but ik what the guy says and ik zionism says a lot of the same things) and liberal at its origins and it being appropriated by conservative religious groups is a pretty new development. The religious groups involved with zionism up until lately have always been pretty liberal for their time (ex: rabbi kook) but are now being swept by a conservative wave which im not sure i can effectively explain if youre not Israeli. If youre familiar with religious Israeli culture you probably know what im talking about. This kinda got off topic

[imaginita-est-omnibus]

to goyim the default jew is reform and progressive and secular

We need more mainstream representation of observant Jews so bad. For a long time I’ve been saying it because, even just as a Conservative Jew, it’s practically impossible to find anyone who acts like me in pop culture. It’s all blue Christmas, Holocaust trauma, and out-of-the-ordinary funeral practices. And I wanted representation for the same reason that any minority deserves representation — to be able to see myself in the media I consume.

But this highlights another reason why it’s so important to have Conservative, Orthodox, Hasidic, etc. Jews represented in popular culture: because otherwise people just won’t understand that we exist. Won’t understand that Judaism is more than not celebrating Christmas and not eating pork. Much less understand how important Israel is to our culture and religion and spirituality.

[themodernmaccabee]

I think OP nailed it. It's seemed lately that the old-world style of antisemitism has been off loaded from Jews as a whole to Zionists. The same beliefs, arguments, claims of horror, all of the truly terrible relics of antisemitism have been taken by gentiles (Hamasniks) and assigned to the Zionists.

Which is rather convenient for them and would explain their emphatic claims they do not hate Jews.

[snapina7formation]

I had a coworker sincerely ask me this week if it was true Jews routinely sacrificed animals and drank their blood for holidays.

An educated person with a doctorate asked me that. I told them no, we don’t. She asked me again as she didn’t believe me.

Y’all.

[knives-in-the-dishwater]

not only do we not, we never have; and it would violate multiple of our laws to do so.

[bobemajses]

A Jewish wedding in Bukhara, Uzbekistan, 2000

[themysteryofhistory]

women at the western wall, around 1900-1920

source: library of congress

[queer-scots-geordie-dyke]

Antizionism IS antisemitism for one very simple reason - being against self determination for an indigenous people in their ancestral homeland is being against something fundamental and basic for that people. It honestly amazes me how many people struggle with this concept.

[the-library-alcove]

This is why they're so DESPERATE to deny that Jews are indigenous to the Levant.