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I was terrified of losing him before he was even mine to lose
(Insp.)
Haymitch: You’re cute when you’re angry.
Effie: [glares at him]
Haymitch: But not when you’re angry with me.
Hayffie + that one PC and Bojack conversation in S6
HOLY PEAK WHAT IS THIS A CROSSOVER EPISODE
Anyone else notice there was like a hedge maze around the perimeter of the wedding scene?
I can appreciate wanting Haymitch and Effie to have a real relationship and be genuinely in love.
But to me hayffie will always be the most ambiguous and unhinged workplace situationship.
Codependent co-workers who create a little pseudo-family with a couple of kids and send them to die every year.
They're good friends. They can't stand each other. They're strangers. They can only trust each other. They're repulsed by each other. They're addicted to each other. They will never understand the other. They're the only ones who truly understand... etc. etc. They had 46 kids and they're all dead. They have 2 alive ones who they have adopted and will do anything to protect.
They're "married". But in the way that they occasionally live together as roommates and will deny anything beyond friendship until their deathbed. Like those spinsters who lived together and were "good friends" in the old days. No one knows what their deal is and they don't know either. They're not "in love" but they can't leave each other the fuck alone.
i am going to shout this from the rooftops:
Katniss, Haymitch, and the Seam inhabitants are all described as olive-skinned, brown-eyed (edit: and gray-eyed), and dark-haired.
Peeta, Maysilee, Katniss’ mother and the Merchants are largely described as blond haired, blue eyed, light-skinned.
The Hunger Games adaptations have a huge weakness to their casting because they allowed their white audience to overlook this very important fact, that the Mockingjay is a brown girl, that her mother was disowned for having a mixed-race and mixed-class marriage, that Katniss and Haymitch were long shots not just because they’re Seam but because they are brown… because the only brown characters in the movies (i.e. Rue, Thresh, 11 in general) were there to be tragic, not to be saviors.
Katniss Everdeen is brown, and I won’t forgive or forget the movies for erasing that part of her character.
this has been another tea time with hawk ☕️🦅
beetee latier came up with one singular plan ever to defeat the hunger games and canonically tried to make it work TWICE despite the fact that it literally blew up in his face the first time.
this officially makes him the world’s most accurate fictional scientist because he HAS a favorite hypothesis that he IS going to make sure works even if it fucking kills him
childhood & post-war
I love that in the Mockingjay movie, Effie seems to belong. They didn't try to portray her as someone District 13 wouldn't trust; aside from the fact that she didn't come out of her room in the beginning, she fit right in. She is the one who takes care of Katniss and even participates in meetings. You can see that Suzanne really wanted to give her more importance in the story, and I am so happy for Effie. I guess that's why I really like the movies more than the books. I want Effie to be significant and to be ACKNOWLEDGED.
HOWEVER, I also absolutely love reading fics where Effie gets left behind and tortured, and Haymitch blames himself hahahahhahaha.
Mmmmkay
can't help but think about how suzanne collins explicitly made haymitch and maysilee's relationship a brother-sister one, and within the same book, introduced effie and haymitch having a very trusting relationship after less than ten instances of knowing each other even if barely anyone expected effie to have been in haymitch's life at that point, yet never explicitly stated what effie was to haymitch.
i still wish the book epilogue wasn't so set in stone about haymitch's ending, but i also think that haymitch and effie's relationship (whether platonic, romantic, or whatever messy ass situationship it may be) is probably better explored as a separate thing.
there is so much complexity and nuance between them, not to mention the many, many themes from the hunger games universe that could be explored within the exploration of their 25 years of history. it could easily make up another book with how much could be explored, especially since that also opens up the world of the victors, the escorts, the capitol crowds, and the inner workings of the Games.
do i think suzanne would write a book about effie and haymitch? probably not. but i do understand that SOTR's structure is only enough to show the nuance of haymitch and effie's starting relationship. and honestly, it opened up a whole new world of things to explore for the fans. because as much as many fanfics pre-SOTR release have gone on to guess that maybe haymitch and effie have known each other for any length of time between 5-15 years, nothing compares to 25 years.
i'd like to believe that, apart from giving the fans more effie, that sets the stage for haymitch and effie's relationship to really focus on growth. they are two people who, when they first meet, have little to nothing in common beyond circumstance and trust. they both weren't really meant to end up where they ended up. they both have to deal with a steep learning curve in the first few years after the Quell, and they only have each other to really lean on.
we're shown in SOTR that, despite effie and prosie's closeness, prosie is much more numb to the reality of the Games than effie (as is shown in the afterparty). and any qualms effie has could easily get her killed. so the only person she can really share her burden with is haymitch. haymitch has the other victors to vent with, sure, but none of them were there before he became a victor. none of them were there after he rampaged in the tributes apartment. none of them were by his side beneath the stage during his victor's ceremony, staying by his side despite a warning from a peacekeeper, and confessing to trusting that he would not hurt her.
book!haymitch and book!effie feel like people with an extremely close working relationship that could turn into something more if and only if either of them take that step. because suzanne gave us that trust. which is a lot already, since that shows us that haymitch and effie never really hated each other, even before they really knew anything about each other.
and it's simply just!!! thank you for giving them more history and nuance, suzanne collins!!
(i also believe that there is no possibility for romance between haymitch and effie within the first 5 or so years of them working together. regardless of age, i'd say it'd take them 5 years minimum to each get used to their new lives post 2nd Quell. and probably about 7 or so years to actually start working as a team. any possibility for romance would have to be after that, if not after the war entirely.)
Hayffie could've been the most interesting and unique dynamic of the whole hunger games franchiseif they are a couple but they had to nerf them with the age gap thing
Im expecting another hayffie kiss on the sotr epilogue
haymitch: that shit did not happen it was ai everlark: WE WALKED IN ON YOU AND EFFIE IN PERSON
I am still here.
WOODY'S HANDS 🫦🫦🫦
EFFIE TRINKET & HAYMITCH ABERNATHY 💛
↳ THE HUNGER GAMES: MOCKINGJAY - PART 2 (2015) | dir. Francis Lawrence