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My cool Madoka Magica headcanon is that because Homura's brain doesn't develop as her experiences build up, and also because of trauma, she has almost no memory of her life before meeting Madoka. Like, she'd have to think for a minute before she could tell you anything about her parents.
Shout out to Kaname Madoka, who haunts the narrative of the series despite a) being alive, and b) being the titular protagonist.
not to be vampires posting on main but fuck, this series has such interesting portrayals of consent, lack of consent and victimhood
by episode 4 we know that Owen and Scott, both of the starting vamps, have been turned consensually. they chose vampirism over their previous life, and clearly see it as a blessing or a gift
but everyone that's been turned during the series was turned violently or through coercion. Owen and Scott believe that what's best for them is best for everyone, and in following that they violate the boundaries and consent of everyone around them
the respect of consent that was afforded to them they did not afford to others, and you can see it reflecting a sort of privilege and power imbalance they have in regards to the fledglings
take that scene of Owen talking with Legs in ep 3, and him speaking for all of them when he says they don't want a cure
and on that topic: Pyro
Pyro is fascinating, because he's almost at the epicenter of all these themes. he was turned without consent, violated, but he was also someone that helped perpetuate the cycle with the turning of Shelby
how the abused become the abusers and so forth
but Pyro and Shelby illustrate another idea reflected in the story: the concept of the perfect victim
we see this with a lot of the humans, but most prominently with Avid. even when he wants to believe that some of the vampires are good, his thinking is still extremely binary
Shelby is 'one of the good ones', and Pyro is lumped in with Scott and Owen as 'the evil monstrous vampires', even though he has also been turned only a short while ago
pretty much everyone seems to forget that Pyro is a victim too, that he was turned nonconsensually, and as much as he managed to roll with the punches he still didn't ask for this
but he's not the perfect victim, like Shelby who's not hurt a human. he lashed out, and did some bad stuff along with the elder vampires, and in doing so he became both the attacker (particularly with Shelby) and the victim
does he not deserve to be saved because he's imperfect, because he lashed out?
does he deserve to be labelled a monster and killed for being put into a bad situation and making bad choices in return?
Avid believes Pyro is unsalvageable and inherently a monster, and refuses to think otherwise
but Pyro doesn't want to hurt humans, he's just trying to scare them away in ep4, and he's open to the idea of accepting help, out of all people
he's used to being called a monster, so he leaned into it, but he does not want to hurt anyone, not really
does he not deserve to be saved? do you have to be the perfect victim to deserve help?
which is why Legs, who truly understands the nuances of the fact that vampires are just people and not a monolith, is so important to this discussion
he sees the victimhood in people like Pyro and even Owen, who are not perfect victims, and yet in his eyes still deserve help
but for most of the humans that complexity is too hard to take into account when these 'monsters' present an active threat to their lives
I've been reading way too much into everything about the Knight and one thing that immediately caught my attention was the way it poses. I think everybody agrees that its weapon is either Dess' bat or Carol's katana but both of those are supposed to be used with both hands so the poses don't match the way either of them are used. People are joking about auramaxxing but genuinely, it seems almost like it's a dance. And then it hit me. We know that Dess plays like. every sport. She's particularly associated with baseball and hockey (thanks Kris for beating me up with a hockey stick) and we know for a fact she has at least two pairs of ice skates - one in her closet and one under her bed.
So what if the skates aren't just for hockey. What if she also does figure skating? Look at the Knight's poses next to figure skaters.
And obviously ice skating is a winter sport so it really matches the Holiday theme.
Can't help thinking about how fucked up it is that Sayaka gets roped into this whole magical girl stuff, heck, is actively invited into it by mami and kyubey, only to be categorically told that she is not supposed to be there once she steps foot into it. You were never supposed to be one, you were an ignorant bystander in your original timeline, living in blissful ignorance while your friend fights. Your admired upperclassman Mami was never supposed to be your friend, that relationship was always meant for Madoka only. You become a magical girl, and the first other mg you meet, Mami's old friend in fact, attempts to beat you out of the space, with extreme predjudice. You're far weaker than every other girl, and this is repeatedly pointed out to you, specifically by the creature that coerced you to fight. You entirely lack the 'potential' to change the world. In every single timeline you become a magical girl, you become a witch, your cosmic punishment for encroaching in a space you were never meant to be. All you ever wanted was to do right by others and yet you're punished for this over and over- because this world of magical girls never wanted you. Not to mention her wish. Over and over again, Sayaka is punished for wanting, for desiring to be more than she is right now. She was destined to be an ignorant bystander and punished for defying that- except she never really had a choice in getting wrapped up in the situation either.
And then your best friend rewrites that universe, and becomes a god. She, your beloved friend who you love and loves you in turn, respects your choices, sees the path you took and accepts it, not as the actions of an irrational interloper, but as your own actions, born from a reasonable set of decisions. She keeps you by her side. You become God's right hand. There is a place for you.
I think I just had what can be considered a wild hour
Realising that In Stars and Time be created by the same person who created a cool comic in the Undertale fandom's elder days was not something I expected to see today, and certainly a surprise, but a very welcome one
Links to the mentioned posts @eldragon-x's comic about the Sexyenby Contest Finale @insertdisc5's post about Greasertale from this month
PMMM x Tma - Madoka Magica characters in terms of the great fears.
Kyouko Sakura:
Nature - Hunt (current), Spiral (former)
Victim of: Desolation
Her original nature as an avatar of the Spiral stems from her wish. However, it can also be argued to be a manifestation of the Web. I believe it is much closer to the Spiral because of her unique magical ability - Rosso Phantasm. Still, it could be argued that it simply was a manifestation of both, or a combination.
Her, chronologically going, suffering at the hands of the Desolation is, to be frank, on the nose - I believe that it represents more than merely suffering at the hands of a fire. That being said, it is clear that Kyouko had experienced the primary effect of the Desolation - loss - that of her family, her home, her way of life and innocence.
Lastly, it is unclear that if the nature of the relationship between witches and magical girls (on it's surface level) was to be different, whether her behaviour would still be largely similar to those of the Hunt, or if it would shift towards an entirely different Entity altogether. Her newer lifestyle fits more that of a beast rather than a human - with simple, direct desires and concerns. It isn't to say that she isn't capable of change or any sort of deviation, but such is a nature of an individual unaffected by the methodical corruption of the Entities as they normally operate.
Miki Sayaka:
Victim of: the Flesh, The Eye
Nature: the Stranger
Sayaka's primary source of dread is the violation of her body at the hands of the Incubator. It can be argued that a transformation into a magical girl resonates with the alteration of a regular child's body with time - puberty, in the broadest sense of the consept. It is also worth noting that her dread is manifested through her knowing about various malignancies plagueing her and the world - from an unnecessary demonstration of physical pain by the Incubator, to the casual sexism of a regular stranger.
It can be argued that Sayaka is driven by a desire to be someone, namely someone she isn't. It does, again, correlate to the problems of maturity, namely psychological, children her age experience. Compounding on that, Sayaka is herself uniquely ego-driven to pursue an ideal that she is repeatedly told is physically harmful, which is, technically, still a domain of Flesh - the Mortal Garden specifically, with a shade of obsession.
Mami Tomoe:
Victim of: the Lonely, the Web
Nature: the Web, the Stranger
The quiet suffering of Mami is well known.
A more interesting aspect to discuss is her second vicrimiser, as well as her nature. As a Judas goat for the Incubator, she does not directly manipulate others the way one would expect. However, it has been noted that that is completely unnecessary for someone to do the bidding of any manipulator. It is also worth noting that the victimisation from the Web generally applies to all magical girls. Mami's case can be expanded to include intersections with the Stranger, as Mami can be said to "put on a mask".
Akemi Homura:
Nature: the Vast
Victim of: the Desolation
It is not exactly correct to say that Homura is a victim of the End. Madoka is. Homura, thus, fits into a category of non-fire related loss. It's hard to say if that counts, as Madoka's death was, in a sense, her natural fate, and even a not-unwelcome one, but that should be discussed later. What is important here is that all the subsequent attempts to avoid such an outcome were met in failure - a form of certainty.
It is hard to categorise time travel into any of the Entities. It can be even seen as a form of a trap, thus linking it to the Buried or the Web, but those would technically be her victimisers, not allies.
A more fitting category would be the infinite possibilities provided by the butterfly effect. And while manipulation of reality can be seen as the distortion, hers is actually quite precise and specific.
Kaname Madoka:
Victim of: the End, the Web, the Extinction, the Vast
Nature: the Eye
While the Incubator prays upon all, even potential magical girls, the very strings of fate weave around Madoka. And while the spinning wheel is in the hands of someone who opposes them, it is, again, a fact that you do not have to be aware, or even be forced to do something for either of their sakes for them to achieve what they want.
A more unique aspect, although still connected to the others, lays in the outcome of her witchification: a gargantuan witch that can destroy the entire world. While that is not the same as them praying on Madoka, it would be wrong to call that her nature.
Her actual nature lies in her knowledge. While initially being on the receiving end of it, between the revelations of the magical girls' nature, to their history, she nonetheless takes the matters into her own hand and manages to find an even more utilitarian outcome than what the Incubator propagate, even converting her immense power to her own use. She became a God of Hope, a notable antithesis to the Dreadful Powers.
The Incubator
Nature: the Web
Fear: the End
It had been revealed that the crawling of the Web was in the service of its desperate attempt to avoid its own death. Naturally, in the world that does not function purely for their consumption, or even knows the rituals, that it would merely resolve to try and put their food and energy to what it believes is a rational use.
homura’s time travel magic is such a genius way of showing the nature of kyubey’s system and how the girls were never at fault for the pain their wishes caused. taking responsibility for our moral failings within an exploitative system is part of how the system enslaves us. it leads us to wonder whether the outcome would’ve changed if we made different choices. homura blamed herself for not being strong enough to save madoka. she thought the system could empower her by giving her autonomy over her circumstances. but all she does is repeat the same month over and over again, her autonomy stripped from her. madoka’s fate is inevitable because no one can survive the system while working within it. it’s only when madoka rewrites the rules that she can make substantial change. and even then she doesn’t break the rules enough to stop kyubey from finding loopholes because none of their mentalities have shifted away from his worldview. even while rebelling homura takes personal responsibility for madoka’s death. both in the first timeline, the timeline when homura mercy killed her, and the final timeline when madoka became god. homura cannot save madoka if she never forgives herself. that’s the root evil of kyubey’s system
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i don’t think i agree with the reading that becoming a witch in madoka is an analogy for suicidal ideation, based on the events of rebellion. that assumes Homura is an accurate example of what being a magical girl is normally like. i just don’t think that’s true.
Yeah in general it seems like a pretty flat reading to me. And it doesn't even track all that well with the other, much more typical example of witching out we have in Sayaka. While Sayaka certainly does have a strong suicidal/self-harming streak, that's not what actually triggers her transformation into a Witch. It's when she loses track of her ideals and hurts people she doesn't need to. For Sayaka, becoming a Witch represents turning into the worst version of herself- vengeful, directionless, and lashing out. And I think that's more generalizable?
I hope the "What if Disco Elysium was about a witch finding her cat in the mountains" post never leaves the gaming discourse vernacular. It will never not be funny to me bc it's got all the Gamer Entitlement™ levels of CoD bros throwing hissy fits about "woke" shit but instead of being couched in far right reactionism it's the exact kind of "Kingdom of Conscience" style liberal outrage at anything with conviction and beliefs that DE waxed on about. Like even chuds who get mad that the game calls you out for being racist interact with the themes of DE better and understand them more than Cat Lady did.
Trying to comprehend this post shuts down my frontal lobe.
You need the context of these two tweets
Peer reviewed tags bc this is also a very good point that people should see
on pastor sakura and kyouko
you’ve all forced my hand. we deviate from Homura to talk about kyouko’s dad, father pissshit
These are my thesis statements.
Pastor Sakura started a cult and was a cult leader.
Pastor Sakura was not a good father and Kyouko is an abuse survivor. This is why she frames the story the way she does.
Kyouko’s backstory sequence is meant to parallel the way a magical girl falls into despair and becomes a witch.
Kyouko herself doesn’t actually believe her father was a very good man, but she needs to believe he is, or else she could fall into despair and become a witch for the same reasons Sayaka does.
Throughout the essay, I will be referring to this transcription I made of the scene using the Netflix subbed version of episode 7, “Can You Face Your True Feelings?”.
Also, (edit) shout out to @werewolfcave for giving me brainworms by showing me the most infuriating takes they receive on this topic and also talking about it in general <3
Let’s get into this.
Honestly, I love the idea of a vampire who only drinks blood taken from blood banks and hospitals, because it so beautifully encompasses someone who's more concerned with the vibes of something than the actual impact of it.
Drinking from someone on the street, barring some other condition they may have, isn't likely to kill them unless you gorge yourself. Taking blood packs? There's always a shortage of blood, and having even less of it runs the very real risk of getting someone killed in a way that is wholly out of your control once you've sipped on that blood. Someone you can't assure the innocence or guilt of, if you're the type of person who cares about that.
Despite that, in popular stuff, I often see discussions of drinking from a blood bank being somehow better or preferable, and yeah. No. The only thing it does is make you feel better while doing more harm, because of that degree of removal. You're effectively drinking blood from someone on the cusp of hypovolemic shock, but since it's not straight from the tap, some people seem to think it's better.
Reblogging cause I haven’t seen anyone talk about this in the notes: the movie Vampire humaniste cherche suicidaire consentant (2023) (english title: humanist vampire seeking consenting suicidal person) is about this and it’s very charming.
I think it's hilarious that Homura and Sayaka have so much opposition and disdain for the other when their reasons for despair are almost the same. They both put their own selves at stake for the sake of helping others, but the key difference is that Homura does it out of a genuine place of love for Madoka and Sayaka does it out of a feeling of worthlessness and a desire to matter to somebody. Yet, both of them are actually quite selfish. Anyway.
it's kind of a shame that the 10-year long "urobuchi said in an interview that madoka was actually about how young girls are literally terrorists who will be destroyed for their hubris" -> "he really did not say that" telephone game has largely buried any retrospective appreciation of how kind of funny it was that urobuchi did just start rapid-firing his thoughts on american imperialism and its relationship to the motivations behind acts of terrorism and nuclear energy and the y2k panic, which is admittedly all ultimately in service of expressing some pretty normal ideas, while the interviewer barely manages to keep the entire thing on-topic.