This is a side blog for an unnamed DID System. We will be remaining anonymous and we will not tag ourselves. The purpose of this blog is to keep the darker shit and explorations from people who already know us so that we don't have to traumatize them with our past and suspicions. If you think you know us, block this account for both our sakes.
We are a medically recognized DID System in our 30s. It has come to our attention that we may have gone through RAMCOA and we may be polyfragmented. Our suspicions are a small trafficking ring but we have far from anything substantial to validate that.
We have no memory of being trafficked beyond a few vague and very singular flashes of memory that are more images than anything else. However we have come to realize that at least a few of us have programming. For example, one of our kids almost certainly has scramble programming and we are looking into other forms as well. We have also discovered layers in our inner world and a clearing of portals.
We are still heavily questioning this. Our System tends to be split between "This can't possibly have happened" to "Ok we need to start considering this because it's starting to have serious repercussions on our life." So please, to those who know for certain they are polyfragmented/programmed, if we say something that doesn't make sense let us know! This is very difficult for us to explore on our own and we will not be able to seek professional help again for several months.
Highkey fucking sick of the radqueers and transID assholes in our tags lately. Stay the fuck out of our tags. You are not welcome. You will never be welcome. You shitheads have done so much fucking harm not just to us but to the community as a whole. You're not even fucking welcome in the non-CDD tags. Stay the fuck out of our spaces and unkindly go fuck yourselves.
I took down the brick post. I was mad when I sent it, and even though I was exaggerating, you have a point.
Hey. For tone, please don't read this message as condescending, I really want you to know I'm genuine about this: But I'm impressed. It's hard to admit when you were wrong, even if you only meant it as a joke.
Good on you. Genuinely. This is the breath of fresh air that syscourse needs. So thanks \gen.
As an aside, this kind of self-reflection isn't normal in syscourse which is why we were so aggressive about our response. I sincerely apologize. It's not often we have a good response so we've been more irritated and offensive as of late. Thanks for reminding us to be kinder and I hope you have a genuinely lovely day.
God you weaponize your faith so fucking badly, dude. You're part of the reason your faith is looked at with such suspicion, you sound like the type of person to pray to end the gays by way of torture via conversion camps.
You say you pray for the endos and then you encourage violence towards them? What a fucking fake Christian. Maybe try to spread the love that Christ wanted us to spread instead of using it to hurt other people the way that the religion has done for centuries. You sounds like the MAGA Christians. Be better in your faith.
Let's start with a little speech. A bit of positivity.
You know, there is something good to said about this RAMCOA antisemitism discourse. The majority don't seem to be falling for it at all, and many are becoming more educated about the panic, RAMCOA/OEA and its history (the good and the bad) than ever before
RAMCOA/OEA a very real issue that deserves awareness and advocacy, and so far, I've noticed a massive surge in members of the community researching the ISSTD and the OEA sig's work.
It has brought antisemitism into light in a way that hasn't really been talked about on a large scale in system communities, and most don't know ever existed. Many, genuinely, had no idea that the satanic panic was antisemitic in these ways, and it's putting a lot of pieces together and adding a lot of context that'll help us grow and be better people going forward.
It's been really nice seeing such a positive shift to open, educational conversations, with people genuinely wanting to know the truth and unlearn harmful associations.
SAS stands with RAMCOA and OEA survivors.
So let's get into it.
SRA and The Memory Wars, lasting results
SRA started with Michelle Remembers, a book, in 1980. It resulted in thousands of unsubstantiated claims of abuse, daycare hysteria, set CDD research and OEA abuse back decades, affected millions, and to this day conjures images of cloaked figures sacrificing children.
The ISSTD was formed in 1984, amid the panic, with the goal of quickly developing an effective treatment and documenting the disorder as thoroughly as possible. Many mistakes were made. Clinicians aren't immune to societal panics, and lessons were learned the hard way.
I think an important distinction that many have forgotten is that the ISSTD's principal controversy isn't SRA. SRA didn't start or end with the ISSTD.
While the “Satanic Panic” played out in courts and in mass media, the ISSTD entered “The Memory Wars”, and it's this that they're most controversial for. False, implanted, and fostered memories weren't solely related to SRA. It was used to discredit all types of abuse and violence and is still used to this day to silence victims.
By the 1990s, therapists were being sued, licenses were being revoked, and members were fleeing the ISSTD. The False Memory Syndrome Foundation wouldn't be created for another couple of years, but that doesn't mean its founding members weren't already wreaking havoc.
The FMSF would be created in 1992, and their bigger and better attacks on therapists were brutal and persistent. The legal battles would be especially effective at causing therapists to refuse to work with victims of abuse.
Research on ritual abuse, CDDs, and repressed memories came to a grinding halt.
The Satanic Panic eventually fell into relative silence by 1995, but false memories lived on, loud and cruel.
The FMSF would eventually begin to write college textbooks for the next generation of clinicians. It would survive until 2019.
The ISSTD is still trying to regain its membership. It's only recently that they reached 1500, the highest since 1993.
Antisemitism, blood libel, and the satanic panic
If you're confused about how everything is related, I'm going to make it very simple so you grasp the basic idea.
This is not a history lesson.
Blood Libel, or ritual murder, is the idea that Jewish people sacrificed Christian children in religious rituals. Cloaked figures performing rituals and killing children and animals. The same thing you picture when you think of Satanists and rituals.
For those who recognize the connection (racists), this fuels their sentiments and creates a language for them to speak to each other.
It is true, a basic fact, that for many people, Satanists are anyone who doesn't worship the Christian god. Including and especially Jewish people.
SRA and RAMCOA
Depending on who you ask, the connection is either that:
MYTH: the ISSTD originally called their RAMCOA sig (Special Interest Group) the SRA sig. FACT: The RAMCOA sig, one of twelve ISSTD sigs, was created in 2008. There was never any kind of satanic ritual abuse group or association within the ISSTD.
FACT: Ritual abuse, the RA in RAMCOA, still has ties to SRA and brings to mind everything from the panic. ALSO FACT: That's why the ISSTD has renamed it to the OEA sig.
Hopefully we're all on the same page now.
Who's Grey Faction?
Grey Faction is a group of the TST (The Satanic Temple) and is closely related to the FMSF. While the FMSF generally attacked all types of abuse, GF, being related to Satanism, is focused on recovered memories and the (still alive) satanic panic. They believe that all reports of false memories supports satanic panic conspiracy theories. They continue the FMSF's work.
How did we get here?
Well, TST and GF are on reddit. Syscringe is on reddit. And now syscringe is here.
This is what syscringe bot says every time RAMCOA is brought up.
That link goes to Grey Faction.
So is RAMCOA Antisemitic?
Kind of yeah. It was a really good move of the ISSTD to change the name to OEA sig. They talk about the association on their website and stated they wanted to get away from that. No one won the satanic panic. Ritual abuse is real, but its history is tainted.
The discourse around RAMCOA isn't about helping Jewish people. At least, not for the people pushing the false connection that the ISSTD started and continues to maintain the panic to this day.
It's about discrediting the ISSTD and the trauma theory. It's about silencing victims, even Jewish survivors.
It's about ignoring that the ISSTD is making moves in the right direction.
It's about continuing the idea that false memories exist and that trauma memories can't be trusted or taken at face value. It's about downplaying the depravity of abusers and the lengths they'll go to.
I want to finish this post with a letter from a very dear friend. It's not a mod on this blog, simply someone wishing to stay anonymous.
Uplift Jewish Voices
Hello, I’m Noam, an ethnic and religious Jew. I face antisemitism on the daily and deal with having DID. I am not a RAMCOA survivor, but I have a number of friends who are. Today I’m here to talk about the recent discourse going around regarding whether claiming to have RAMCOA experiences is inherently antisemitic. TLDR: no.
Let’s start with understanding why people think this. The term ritual abuse originated from the term satanic ritual abuse and is often associated with the satanic panic. The satanic panic in the 80s and 90s was extreme and yes, did involve a lot of antisemitic conspiracy theories. People would suggest certain symbols or music or groups of people (often vague, or calling it a nationwide conspiracy) were “brainwashing” these “good Christian children” into satanic practices or straying from rigid Christianity. Jews are often stereotyped as Satanic, controlling things, and murdering and cannibalizing children/babies.
Ritual abuse nowadays is often still associated with Satanic cults, but it has a much broader and less accusatory definition in medical/therapeutic spaces. Per Schröder et al. (2018), “ritual abuse occurs when a religious, political, or spiritual authority uses its position of power and the sovereignty to interpret the respective belief system to manipulate and dominate its followers.” Some examples include repeated forced creation of CSEM, religious and other types of cults (yes, including satanic, but also Christian and other religions), and being forced to abuse others (Schröder et al., 2018). Trafficking is also a type of organized abuse. We know these types of abuses happen. But given the history of RA as a term and the harm claims of SRA caused, how does one determine whether something is a conspiracy theory or actual trauma someone experienced?
This page by the European Commission does a good job of talking about identifying conspiracy theories and the harm they do. I won’t recount the whole thing, but here are some basic things they state conspiracy theories have in common: a secret plot, a group of conspirators, unfounded/unreliable evidence, suggesting everything is connected, dividing the world into good people and bad people, and scapegoating certain groups (“Identifying Conspiracy Theories,” 2020).
What makes (many) stories of RAMCOA different from antisemitic conspiracy theories? I’m glad you asked!
• The secret plot in conspiracy theories often involves a large group of people in on some secret changing something about the world or identifying a secret thing that must have happened to lead to unfortunate current events. RAMCOA tends to stem from people or organizations working on a much smaller scale, and the things they are doing mostly affect the person/people experiencing this abuse. Abusers may try to instill in victims a sense that they control a lot about the world and the events that happen within it, but they don’t.
• A big question I like to ask people who spout conspiracy theories is “who is they (the group of conspirators)?” If they is some generic big bad, the government, “elites” (see the AJC’s Translate Hate Glossary section titled “cosmopolitan elite”), or vague and unknown, it’s usually a dogwhistle for Jews. The person themselves may not realize this, but perhaps they never looked further into the evidence behind these accusations and who those being accused are. RAMCOA perpetrators are not vague to their victims. They often have familial ties or other close relationships with them that allow the abusers to gain their victims’ trust (Schröder et al. 2018). The things they do to abuse people and the methods they use are not vague or mysterious actions to achieve an end. There are specific actions and tactics that cults and authority figures use for RAMCOA.
• Whether evidence is unfounded is a harder thing to distinguish, since many survivors of RAMCOA cope using dissociation or have an amount of dissociative amnesia around traumatic events (Shröder 2018). The Europe Commission suggests three main things to check for in regards to evidence about a claim. Who is the author and why are they writing this? Is the source reliable/reputable? Is the tone and style “balanced and fair or sensationalist and one-dimensional?” (“Identifying Conspiracy Theories,” 2020). I also like to think about, especially with regards to abuse survivors, if this is a conspiracy theory, why are they telling me the things they’re telling me? Most RAMCOA survivors I’ve met avoid talking about their trauma and are more focused on figuring out if what they experienced is real and how to heal from it. They are not trying to convince me of something; they are just sharing their story and looking for support.
• RAMCOA victims I’ve talked to, particularly those with DID, also have a more complex view of their abusers or are trying to come to terms with all the bad things someone they admired, trusted, and/or loved did. Conspiracy theorists tend to separate people into conspirators or innocents. There is no middle ground. Healing for a lot of abuse victims involves realizing that good people can do bad things and bad people can do good things; the world is not black and white.
• Scapegoating often involves generalizing and demonizing certain people or groups of people. I find a lack of seeing these “others” as human or wanting anything other than a single, unified goal. It also tends to involve assumptions much more than any personal experience. Anyone with even the slightest connection to a certain ideology is evil. RAMCOA often involves many victims, many of whom understand that other people involved with the organization that hurt them are also victims or have been scared or brainwashed into further perpetuating abuse.
• Also, while satanic panic was largely about going against Christianity, many religious cults are associated with particular sects or communities within Christianity, and they use certain ideologies within the group to deter people from leaving or reporting abuse. Perpetrators claim some sort of punishment or betrayal will be involved in these actions.
Anyways, I want to put emphasis on healing in RAMCOA survivors, where many of the points and purposes of conspiracy theories are antithetical to such a process. People should be allowed to find support, community, and reliable resources about what they have gone through (if it is physically/mentally safe for them to do so). Please do not insist that these traumas aren’t real on the basis of antisemitism from the satanic panic. The survivors I’ve met who talk about parts of their trauma are working hard to come to terms with it themselves and how to cope, and while they may be angry and upset towards their abusers, they do not try to insist to me how evil a group is and that there is a need to take direct action against them. They are just trying to survive.
Now, ritual abuse as a term and the history of its use is something I think needs more discussion. I would love to see more research about how the term evolved within medical/therapeutic spaces and how much of a connection the current definition and use has to antisemitism. But regardless of what we end up calling these types of abuses, there are real examples of them and people who have empirical evidence that they have been through such experiences.
Furthermore, I have a problem with a lot of the claims of antisemitism in relation to RAMCOA coming from goyim (AKA non-Jews). You are not the authority on antisemitism. You do not get to claim to defend us while not speaking to us about the topic. There is so much antisemitism going around, but I find so few people willing to listen to Jews when we talk about the struggles we face. (The SAS mods are an example of exceptions to this. I appreciate the amount I’ve been able to talk to them and how open and supportive they are. I love y’all.) Encouraging hate and disbelief is not helpful to us. What’s helpful is doing your research and learning about how to recognize and combat antisemitism. Take your energy where it’s needed, thank you.
European Commission. (2020, August 12). Identifying conspiracy theories. European Commission. <https://commission.europa.eu/strategy-and-policy/coronavirus-response/fighting-disinformation/identifying-conspiracy-theories_en>
Gerke, J., Fegert, J., Rassenhofer, M., & Fegert, J. M. (2024). Organized sexualized and ritual violence: Results from two representative German samples. Child Abuse & Neglect, 152, 106792. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.chiabu.2024.106792
If you are a system on this app, you need to block this person.
I actually cannot believe I’m making this post but here we go.
This is the person’s description. Please note, I am not fake claiming them on being a RAMCOA/HC-DID system or their alter count. I am also not fake claiming them based on the fact they claim to have a DSMP script, even though the timing feels a little weird to me.
‘But you are fake claiming them-‘ Yes I am. And for two main reasons. Number one, claiming to have diagnosed ASPD.
ASPD cannot and is not diagnosed as a minor. You must be at least 18 to be diagnosed with ASPD, and if you are any younger it would be considered a conduct disorder. Any professional would know this.
Furthermore, this person claims to live in Mexico (which I will get to in a moment). Mexico uses the ICD for diagnostic criteria, and in the ICD-11, ASPD isn’t even a diagnosis.
But let’s assume this person got diagnosed in the US or is not living in Mexico and got diagnosed with ASPD at 15 years old. The main reason I am calling bullshit is this:
This person claims to be in witness protection. First off, you cannot have any social media if you are in witness protection. Like none at all, which includes tumblr. It doesn’t matter if you don’t use your real name/age/identity, it’s still a huge safety risk even having it, let alone telling people you’re in witness protection and what country you were relocated to.
This person also claims that one of their programmers contacted them. While they were in witness protection. I’m not even going to comment on that, but I will let you guys just connect the dots on this.
I don’t have anything more to say about this. Hate will be blocked. System’s used is snowchester-system. Don’t send hate or harass them. And snowchester, if you’re reading this and all of this is in fact true, delete your tumblr and get off the internet for good. For your own safety.
Do any of you people actually understand what a script is/entails or does everyone in the community who uses it now mean something entirely different than what the word really means 🤐
Because a script literally can't be as recent or complex of media as so many people I've blocked already like to claim.
Warrior cats isn't a script. Persona 5 isn't a script. FNAF isn't a script. If it's not CHILDREN'S MEDIA it's not even checking ONE OF THE MAIN BOXES to be a script.
Video games are far and away impossible to use for scripts as they are largely too complex for the toddler who would be first getting said script to understand.
Scripting CANNOT be done in any stage but the very *beginning* of programming, it can be added to later but not started later. So it's 100% a toddler that is learning who the main characters are, what they represent, the setting, the locations of the events of the story, the themes that help the abusers achieve what they want to achieve via scripting, etc.
It doesn't make any fucking sense to claim a media from the 2000s or even 2010s is a script because there needs to be a lot of time in between the writing of the media and the warping of it into a script, because watching a movie, even dozens of times, or reading a book, etc is NOT HOW YOU INSTALL A SCRIPT. it has to be made into a production, a lot of the time like a play, where real people play the parts in the book(etc) in costume, and the child is involved in this pretend world to the point it's heavily internalized, during/alternating with torturous abuse, for a script to even possibly take.
*An abuser making you consume media does not and never has constituted scripting. I think you guys just want to be considered "worse off" or "more traumatized" than those of us who aren't scripted, to the point youve taken the definition and warped it beyond repair.*
Now we've got people posting lists of "potential scripts" that are ALL media less than ten years old, too complex for a small child to understand, too long to be made into a script, etc etc etc and it's fucking obnoxious.
Just having an introject who happens to also be a programmed part DOES NOT MAKE IT A SCRIPT. PROGRAMMED PARTS CAN LITERALLY JUST BE INTROJECTS AND THAT IS *NORMAL* AND DOES NOT NEED A MORE IN DEPTH EXPLANATION. parts who lived their entire life not being allowed to discover a sense of self can very easily latch on to characters from media. That's so normal! Stop trying to warp the definition of script to include you when it fucking just doesn't! Scripts are RARE and VERY DIFFICULT AND TIME CONSUMING to install and are NOT LIKELY if your group was not a multigenerational group with a lot of connections where they might obtain a completed script (as in, where someone has taken an appropriate media and made it into a screenplay with scheduled times for abuse and abuse built into the production itself). A single individual cannot write a script on their own, it takes multiple people working together, using children considered disposable as practice cases, and years of work with trial and error to make a book into a script. It's not something many abusers would ever bother with. It's not something an abuser who doesn't explicitly know what DID is and how it works BY NAME, IN DETAIL would be able to do. This is something that would REQUIRE knowledge about DID, far more than just the cause and effect that many abusers are aware of, would give. It requires knowing what an inner world is and how to manipulate that to do your bidding. It's not funny to pretend about this, people with genuine scripts have A TON of healing work to do that goes directly into combatting the script itself. You shouldn't be jealous if you don't have one, you should be GLAD.
Can we just fucking stop with this shit. Please I'm so fucking exhausted. I'm sick of realizing most of the community is still literal children who don't even know for sure that programming is the term to fit their abuse, twisting the definition of scripting to make their very normal introjects seem like something horrible.
Could you please dive into the RAMCOA controversy that's been going around? I've literally never heard someone say "RAMCOA is antisemitic" until like a week ago and now there's multiple blogs (I'm sure you can guess who at this point) who are saying this and calling RAMCOA a conspiracy theory from the satanic panic.
It's being said by the same 3 blogs that all reblog the same bad takes so I wasn't putting any stock in their word. Just the latest misinfo spreading unchecked, would appreciate your thoughts on this.
You know what, I'm not going to lie, I've been dreading getting this question.
Terrified. Harassment in this area of discussion is rampant.
We are currently debating making a post and how to approach it.
I will make our stances clear right now.
I think the conversation as it is now is full of misinformation and confusion. I think no single post can cover that amount of history and the theories and controversy.
I don't think anyone understands what they're arguing about, or the histories they're trying to bring up, and how they overlap. I think many members of the conversation lack access to resources and education that the mods of this blog DO have access to. Most of the links being thrown around lead back to the same single sources.
To shorten a very long, complex, and honestly unfinished conversation: the satanic panic and RAMCOA are two completely different entities. The satanic panic was a religious political movement of the 90s pushed by conservatives as a way to scare people back into church and scare women back into their "place" at home by attacking child care facilities. It called on a lot of tropes. And many of them were, yeah, ridiculously antisemitic. As the movement got more and more sensationalized, it began to call attention to therapists (some of them bad faith) and to RAMCOA survivors as a "Look! It's real!" kind of thing. If anything, this attention hurt far more than it helped. It painted an inaccurate and insulting picture that's still utilized to harm people today.
To be very clear: programmed DID is a well documented occurrence and it can occur in several ways.
We support survivors, no matter what they call it. We support clinicians trained in treating people who have gone through that extreme level of horrific abuse. We support people learning to separate fact from fiction, in whatever way that may apply to any given situation.
SAS supports ramcoa and oea survivors.
Here's something we suggest reading, though it's very long.
everyone involved in pushing ramcoa as a term is a conspiracy theorist or gets their info from conspiracy theorists. that’s where the term comes from. it’s not just associated with SRA and the satanic panic it IS SRA and the satanic panic rebranded to preserve the isstd’s image now that everyone knows the satanic panic was fabricated. you don’t get to ‘but im TRAUMATIZED how dare you try to take my words away’ your way out of the severe harm this term represents to jewish communities and others and the harm you and others cause when you defend it. I’m sorry you were profoundly abused but you’re still responsible for not hurting other people. let go of ramcoa. just let it GO.
Sources or GTFO coward. How can you say you're standing behind people if you can't even hand out sources and come off anon?
I'm not pushing it as a term and never once have but I will absolutely point out the holes in this new wave of "RAMCOA isn't real" bullshit. Just because you claim you're not telling survivors that what they went through didn't happen doesn't mean that's not the effect you're having.
You want people to believe you and take you seriously? Throw out more information than just "RAMCOA is Satanic Panic and anti-semitic!!!!!!"
Oh yeah? It is? THEN FUCKING SAY HOW INSTEAD OF THIS PERFORMATIVE BULLSHIT. And fucking come off anon when you do.
"RAMCOA isn't real" You ever hear of the child wilderness camps that are allowed to kidnap kids in the middle of the night with consent of the parents and transport them across state lines to Utah? Where before they would starve the kids and humiliate them with the intention of mentally breaking them for about two months and some kids were dying? You wouldn't say that counts as organized abuse? When the creator of these camps told his workers that kids were inherently manipulative and you had to break them down to reshape them?
No one who says RAMCOA isn't real is saying that the abuse isn't real. When people say RAMCOA isn't real they are talking about the Satanic Panic. They are talking about conspiracy theories driven by anti semitic and abusive therapists.
They are not denying cults or trafficking as a whole. They are denying the conspiracy theories from the Satanic Panic where the term RAMCOA originated.
Don't use the term RAMCOA. Not only is it re-normalizing a term rooted from antisemitism and conspiracy theories, but it is incredibly dangerous to you and denying your own experiences.
Labeling yourself with RAMCOA narrows down what people can use to take advantage of your trauma. It also tells people who know it's origins that you're claiming to be apart of cults that have never existed.
Your trauma can be real, but you are labeling it as if it is something that is not.
Cults are real. The cults RAMCOA is talking about are not.
Literally how different is it to say OEA? OEA is literally just the OA at the end of RAMCOA.
It's an acronym:
Ritual Abuse (a specific form of abuse commonly but not always involving cults and religion)
Mind Control (admittedly not the best term but still recognizes abuse that involves grooming, programming, anything that breaks down one's sense of self and reinforces the group's ideals)
Organized Abuse (Literally the same thing as OEA)
None of these are specifiers to any specific type of cult. None of it denies our lived experience or what we went through. We are not claiming to have been in some Satanic Cult (or any cult for that matter).
It is absolutely possible to talk about the Satanic Panic outside of RAMCOA/OEA and the anti-semitism that came along with that WITHOUT picking on people who went through that, claiming they can't use or reclaim a term or that they're denying their own lived experiences. How dare you say you get any claim to that.
What does a typical day off for you look like? (No need to answer if you think it's too private.)
I don't talk about it much, but we're on disability, so every day is a day off. (Which also means that all of my pro-endo propaganda is officially state-sponsored.)
I tend to do my blogging or research in the mornings when we wake up. We walk for about two hours every day. (We have a step counter and will get in at least 10k steps.) On weekdays, part of this is picking my host's little brother up from school, which is about a 20-minute walk there and back.
If we're walking alone, I'll try to answer some questions on my blog while we walk. Voice chat makes this so much easier.
When we're done, my host will usually front to spend time with his family. This is usually them watching shows together, or playing games of some kind. Favorite games around here tend to be Dominion or Sentinels of the Multiverse. Recently, they started doing Heroscape and Arena of the Planeswalkers (on Heroscape terrain.)
That's pretty much the basics. Other free time is going to be dedicated to whatever floating interests we may have at the moment, but those floating interests tend to change a lot.
This feels trivializing to people who fought so hard for disability or who can't go on disability because they want to get married or "aren't sick enough" in the eyes of the law.
You didn't have to mention you were on disability at all. This is a bad look.
