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as my next fan-cast I present:
Cody Fern as Sauron
Thuringwethil, the vampiric messenger of Melkor, is not explicitly named as anyone’s original Maia. While it’s possible she was one of the original Maiar of Melkor, I find the ways other Maiar can be twisted to be so fun to explore
Perhaps she was a messenger originally to Varda, her form little more than the wisps and vapors that frequently make up the Maiar that sere the queen of the stars. She materializes rarely. When she joins Melkor, her form changes and smoke becomes sinewy wings, teeth forming and piercing.
Now, she is a shadow that passes over the stars she once worshiped
Or, Thuringwethil as a primeval hunter, fastened and shaped by Oromë to blur lines, to live in shadows, as an ambush predator who strikes not with great tearing claws but in smaller, burrowing ways. There is nothing unnatural about this and in the natural world there is nothing evil. But corrupted, her predation takes on a new form
Vána’s realm, cycles of life and death, spring and winter and growth and decay could be terrifying even without with the active malice of Morgoth. Thuringwethil starting out as a fruit bat, fluttering in the glades of Vána, a pollinator. Drawn to Melkor for the extremes he embodies. Pollinating the poisoned flora of the Ered Engrin, feasting on flesh as much as fruit.
Thuringwethil originally serving Irmo. Dreams and visions transmitted through teeth and wings. Thuringwethil not only as messenger but a guardian of Angband’s many nightmares
Ooooo, I'm really glad I'm not the only one who keeps wondering about Thuringwethil's origins, how she came to serve Melkor... And that's really the sort of thing I'm most curious about.
You can read the Ainulindalë and see Melkor as that precocious, proud, ambitious kid who sees what their beloved father is doing and wants to make him proud. You can see how that eagerness for approval was turned to bitterness and ash... You can follow along with that.
What was Gothmog before he became a balrog? What happened to Gothmog to make him decide "Yeah, it's all smoke and fire and flaming whips from now on."
And the same with Thuringwethil. I could almost see her fall as being akin to Saurons. She's a messenger, so maybe she's very organized and careful, and she was drawn to Melkor because she liked the way Sauron promised to keep things sorted out. Or maybe she was more like a NYC bicycle courier, and an absolute chaos goblin, and she got tired of how the other Valar and Maiar rolled their eyes when she came crashing into a tree bearing a message.
Time to search AO3 for Thuringwethil fic...
Thuringwethil, a Maia of Mandos
Always around death, but somehow not near enough
Fascinated by it, always wanting to be 𝘤𝘭𝘰𝘴𝘦𝘳 to it
Wondering for centuries what it would be like to 𝘤𝘢𝘶𝘴𝘦 it
What would it feel like? Would it be exhilarating? Would it be the most powerful she's ever felt?
Drinking the life from someone who is destined to spend millenia in the Halls, becoming addicted to 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘴𝘶𝘮𝘪𝘯𝘨 the fëa and hröa of those who are forgotten there
And when her friend Mairon speaks of Melkor, the strongest Vala, a Dark Lord who arises in might
Well, she's fascinated. Enraptured. There was always a more insidious side to her that she never explored, for fear of retribution and ostracisation
But but by following Melkor, she is able to fulfill her dark fantasies, to become the 𝘤𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘵𝘶𝘳𝘦 she was always meant to be
She embraces herself as a harbinger of death, terrifying those she encounters, swearing fealty to the Dark Lord, and fueling her thirst for 𝘣𝘭𝘰𝘰𝘥
Elrond be like: I am 4/8 human, 3/8 elf, and 1/8 angel. My mother is a bird and my father is the North Star. My twin brother was the first king of Atlantis but somehow I seem to be more famous than him. I am one of three ringbearers, the other two being the female version of Feanor and a guy who loves fireworks. My foster father is a crazy homeless guy who likes music and his whole family is dead. My many-greats grandnephew is in love with my daughter. No one can tell my sons apart. I like waterfalls and am both a glorified innkeeper and a top-notch doctor. I am the voice of reason no one listens to.
Tirion upon Túna
Many months ago now, I thought it would be fun to try painting locations from the Silmarillion in the style of the Monument Valley games, because they are among my favourite games and I enjoy the art very much. Unfortunately, it turns out that this style enables my worst habits in terms of perfectionism and adding endless tiny details, and so this cityscape of Tirion has taken a grand total of 148 hours to complete. Please zoom in to see all the details!!!
I think the city was built to look beautiful under treelight, using principally white stone, which takes on a golden-pink hue under Laurelin's light and a silver-blue hue under Telperion's. Open spaces and tall windows let the light into every building, especially around the Great Square, where the royal and aristocratic families live. Valuing creativity and craftsmanship as they do, the Noldor experimented with different types of architecture and ornamentation (inspired by a mixture of real-world architectural styles as well as the architecture in Monument Valley). Some buildings have intricate painted designs on the walls, mostly based on natural imagery or geometric patterns; others have statues of Elven figures dancing, holding musical instruments, or holding birds. The flags around the Great Square are based on the Two Trees and Finwë's heraldry.
The city is also full of trees and gardens - I got a bit carried away with all the plants and birds 😅 Tirion probably gets regular rainstorms blown in through the Calacirya, so it's wetter than inland Valinor and many different plants can grow in the warm treelit climate. They have a lot of roof gardens.
Good morning to people who are turned into birds as they jump from sea cliffs, sad beach cryptids, bad bitches who live in hidden cities, one-handed tragic figures, spirits of fire, victims of shipwrecks, people with great hair, receivers of ominous dreams and foresight, werewolves who thought they were the worst in the land but weren’t, unnamed wives and sentient malevolent swords
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Something about the wars of beleriand or so
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There are multiple chapters that are set in hospitals where the characters are attempting to recover from injuries that never fully heal. I must once again stress that my experience in WWI was perfectly normal.
There is a giant horrible mudplain full of unrecoverable and perfectly preserved dead bodies that the characters have to walk through in a land where the air is poisoned gas, and on a compLETELY UNRELATED NOTE: WWI WAS TOTALLY FINE AND NORMAL!!
Uh??? Tolkien did not claim that???
"One has indeed personally to come under the shadow of war to feel fully its oppression; but as the years go by it seems now often forgotten that to be caught in youth by 1914 was no less hideous an experience than to be involved in 1939 and the following years. By 1918, all but one of my close friends were dead."
He talked about how WWI affected his writing all the time, he was not in denial for how it affected??? Am I missing something????
https://www.tolkiensociety.org/blog/2017/09/tolkien-as-war-novelist-another-way-of-dealing-with-trauma-through-writing/
what Tolkien was adamant about, which has been confusing people for several decades now, is that he wasn't writing about World War Two
He was also very clear that he was not writing allegory. Now, some people are not very clear on what allegory means. "Allegory" and "symbols" are not the same thing. Allegory is a type of symbolism, but there are a lot of ways of doing symbolism that aren't allegory ... and a lot of people are kind of fuzzy on that. The way allegory is most commonly used in literary and religious analysis is that there is a direct, almost 1:1 correspondence between the literary figure and what it is standing in for.
So, for example, Pilgrim's Progress is an allegory of Christian salvation. It's sort of a novel? There are characters who do stuff? but also they are very one-dimensional. The main character is a guy named Christian--yes, really!--who is journeying from his hometown ("the city of destruction") to the Celestial City (heaven). There is not much subtlety to it. It is pretty much what it is. There is no slippage, no playing around with the theme, no places where the symbolism is ambiguous. John Bunyan, the author, is hitting you over the head every step of the way with the Meaning That You Are Supposed To Be Getting From The Story.
Not all allegories are that crude or simplistic; the Narnia books are also allegory for Christianity. They have a lot more subtlety to them and a lot more nuance, and there's a lot of stuff in there that isn't allegorical, but on the crucial matters there is still a 1:1 correspondence. Aslan is Jesus. He's not like Jesus, he's not a character that has some similarities to Jesus or takes themes from the stories of Jesus, he is Jesus.
Tolkien is not doing allegory. Tolkien is taking the material of his life--his faith, his experiences in WWI, his linguistic and historical knowledge, his favorite books--and using them as the building blocks of his story. The themes and imagery and symbols draw heavily from all of that, the characters and settings draw heavily from all of that, but they are too complex to be allegorical. There's a lot of symbolism! It's not allegory.
So, for example, let's take the Dead Marshes referenced above. Does the experience of walking through this muddy wasteland with corpses all around that are rotting but still look like people draw from Tolkien's WWI battlefield experience of dead bodies in the trenches? Of course it does! but there are also a lot of differences. These dead are not from the current war, they are from a previous one--they are a reminder of old conflicts, of the ways the systems and powers of the current war have not come out of nowhere, there is history here. There is meaning that is not drawn from the Somme. And they are also drawing from literary references Tolkien was familiar with--primarily William Morris. Modern readers don't get the references because we have generally not read The House of the Wolflings, but that doesn't mean that the references aren't there.
So people read Tolkien's insistence that he didn't write allegory, and take that to mean that he's saying there isn't symbolic and thematic references. And that isn't what he meant! And also, we focus so much on the thematic references to WWI and Christianity, and we miss most of the other references, which makes it seem like Tolkien's only drawing on WWI, when he's actually doing something more complex.
And, here we have it.
This sort of mentality on McPayne's part is exactly why people who are not dude-bros but who are simply longtime fans of Tolkien's characters have found The Rings Of Power alienating.
It's not that I'm dropping the show. I think that we reached the bottom with the Sauron x Galadriel dynamic in s01 ,with Halbrand, and now the only way is up. But stiill, the fact that McKay and Payne believe this is a good idea says a lot about them and of their "understanding" of all characters involved.
And I'm sorry that they think that just because Galadriel is a female character this is needed to make her interesting. I'm sorry my girl is subjected to this. The misogyny in the way they wrote hers and Sauron's dynamic was there from the start and they just can't seem to let it go.
as someone with aragorn's kind of face framing layers i just know the front pieces are hanging in his eyes all day every day... "my path is hidden from me" you are 4 bobby pins away from utter clarity.
If your requests are still open I'd love to see your take on Thuringwethil! 🖤
Love your art so much!
The game Lord of the rings online has an enemy type based on Thuringwethil. They are called Morroval and are tall hot vampire lady. I like to hc that Thuringwethil (and Lhaereth) were mothers of that race. Fallen lower Maiar that were corrupted by Morgoth when he arrived in Beleriand.