shut your pie hole, harold
I was already burnt out on Jared courting conservative demos for walker, his overmarketing of his sand water, his twitter meltdown and his taxidermied chicken in the bathroom but I gotta say--that was bad. And not "cuz Destiel."
Antis will, of course, say it's about Destiel, because we know they have no convictions. They'll misgender and deadname/wrongname anyone they think is "deserving", delete comments from queer creatives and whatever else suits their agenda while retweeting AOC to blend in as civilized monkeys.
So first things first let's get out of the way that if any wincels pop up on this post to posture and try to lick their wounds about the "not about incest" comment, don't humor them, or elevate their age old homophobic dialogue to appearing legit or worth stage in the debate.
This is for the actual people with like, morals, and shit. Things they believe in. Don't just say or lipservice, but act, and do, and work through natively, as a first instinct, not a performative mask.
Jensen's response isn't innately GREAT, but it wasn't disqualifying and frankly tried to convert Jared's miscellaneous unwitting phobic rantings into something less awful without outright slapping his coworker on stage, though the facerubbing looked like he was REAL close.
But Jared? Jared that was a whole basket of fuckery. Not only did you springboard into a conversation that you are literally the last related party in (none of the related characters), or immediately sexualize the queerness of minors a mother was trying to represent--
--one mistake from a cishet man mispeaking, that's fair. Look we all fuck up, phrasing can trip the best of us. But no. He kept on. It's like he didn't know how to stop his mouth from running. Somehow, in one breath and one answer to a question not for him, he did all that, basically slapped any like trans men that haven't completed meto, disregarded the ability for queer love in asexuals, and I don't even know what the fuck else. Oh yeah, did the one thing GLAAD tells you very stringently not to do and try to conflate homosexuality to incest. I don't think that's consciously what he meant to say, but it's the base of his thought process revealed.
Sure, great. The show's not about incest. All but 2 dozen brainless child porn watching brotherfuckers already knew that. But you literally just tried to unweave the work of a gay man AND a (self-unlabeled, umbrella) queer actor THAT PLAYED IT. IT'S GAY, HAROLD.
You are literally the least qualified person in this conversation. You didn't play the reciprocating character, you didn't play the discussed character, you aren't the one talking about your gay kids, why the fuck are you rolling over Jensen?
Is Jensen's answer great, no. Like the Pristine Lustless Gays take--given, mostly springboarded from Jared's word vomit and converted outward to elevate it--aged out in like 2001. But Jensen did actually give another standard queer take here: that sexuality and romanticism (eg "lust vs love") are not themselves perfectly correlated or exclusionary. Hence you know. The sexual-romantic axis. The years of "THE GAYS JUST WANT HEDONISM" that is actually implicit in the subtext of what Jared jumped to from go made that a familiar, wide topic.
The familiar face rubbing of stress, anxiety and reservation that used to hit Jensen a lot more when he was younger and shyer but resurged again with a tick of torqued lips of either anger or distaste. Jensen wasn't happy.
Do I wish Jensen had taken a bolder stance than the idea of like sure hets if you wanna het it you can interpretations are equal, yes. Did Jensen at least frame his in queer dialogue, yes, just a few years dated compared to modern buzz.
Like it's 2021 and the gays are allowed to want love AND fuck that's fine. But one of these two was wildly phobic to like 3 parts of the queer community and broke multiple DO NOT DO of queer rules. One was slightly dated queer talking points trying to patch over it.
But like, that's it. I'm done. Oh, I even forgot to include him managing to make BLM about him somehow in the past or seeing a story about kids and cages and deciding the cops struggle was done and-- I could go on. I won't. But this? Nah, sorry. I was already distanced from him but there's a certain amount of repugnant I can tolerate in one dose and Jared vaulted past that into outer space tonight.
And J1ers will scream and say it's hate and do anything they can do to reroute the conversation without actually addressing any of the above issues, they'll try to pick out some fractal part of the structure and argue it to bits or purposefully invert queer talking points.
But it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if you like a show, or a character, or even if you like(d) an actor. Nobody is obligated to continue following, supporting, consuming content from someone who rather than getting better and learning doubles down.
And minding the length of the list, people have given a LOT of fucking clearance already. I think it's mostly the brazen magnitude of this level of phobic cockup. Fandoms aren't abusive relationships. You aren't obligated to take that shit and keep supporting.
The fandom abusers, who coincidentally ship the abusive ship, and watch abusive porn, and who get off on abuse and homophobia when it suits them, they're irrelevant. No matter how they beat on you, you're not "less of a show fan" for not choking down phobic rhetoric with a smile.
I know people that blocked Jared for their mental health tonight. That's fair. And I want to reinforce that actually. Nobody is obligated to keep following after that because of some public illusion of fandom. TV doesn't supercede the real world.
Everyone, take care of yourselves, but You Are Valid.
Some cishet rich white dude's inability to tolerate when a conversation isn't about him--be that BLM, queerness, or a spinoff--is his problem. It's not yours. And it's definitely not your responsibility to either endure it or worse argue with the spineless, Janus-faced, nullifidians that want so desperately to be relevant in the field of debate that they reveal their native amoral default in search of gratification.
Outside the vortex of SPN fandom, where this nonsense reverberates infinitely, these talking points, these problems, are already resolved. Wincels or J1ers taking up 1992 republican debate tactics doesn't mean we have to go through it all over again. Don't lift their takes. Don't give them the time of day. Slap them with a rainbow flag if you acknowledge them at all, and don't waste your time, and energy on something or someone that is wilfully obtuse--whether that be a fan, or a celebrity.
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