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Something something about the fact that Armand never considered what Louis did cheating until Daniel, because he could tell that there was real interest on Louis' side. And in his relentless search to understand what made Daniel so fascinating, he ended up emotionally cheating on Louis for half a century. It was not Lestat's ghost that hung over their heads during their marriage. It was Daniel's. The fascinating boy. The man who held the keys to their freedom... The other woman...
If we ever get a TVA adaptation, I need the creepy violin sounds back.
BUT instead of hearing them while Armand is doing something fucked up, we hear them while something fucked up is happening to Armand as to foreshadow his declining mental stability.
TIL that there are people out there who think Armand and Daniel's rapture bond is creepy and not one of the most romantic things the show has done to date.
I also saw someone suggest that maybe their bond is like that because of some outside force/third person who's making it happen... or idk maybe they could just have something unique of their own and it doesn't actually take anything away from Loustat because these ships aren't in competition with one another (or shouldn't be)?
My immediate thought re. the rapture bond was that if past DM happened mutually, and they spent 12 years sharing blood, then that could account for their bond doing weird unique things. Like they came pre-bonded, essentially.
To me that sounds like a decent and reasonable guess, but apparently it's more likely that their bond is special because of... somebody else?
Looking at the third season as the result of Lestat's narration, and something really interesting struck me.
What does it tell us about Lestat's perception of Louis and their relationship?
Because yes, Lestat's Louis is more self-assured and nicer to himself. But he is also emotionally distant and utterly alone.
He is completely isolated. He and Daniel are not friends anymore. And the only two people he has ever loved (apart from Lestat) hate his guts.
He doesn't have anyone left other than Lestat. And it is extremely in character for Lestat to think he is the only one who loves Louis. And that said love should be enough for him.
This is exactly what happens in s01. Lestat is so focused on himself that he fails to realise that his love is not enough for Louis. And his reaction? Isolation, cheating, and emotional and physical abuse.
And it's the same in s3; just in his narrative, he is not the abuser. No, that's Armand, Claudia and Daniel's roles. He is the hero. The only one who truly loves Louis, who knows how to love him and has forgiven him for his mistakes.
Armand and Claudia are the vessels of Lestat's own resentment towards Louis. Claudia's vitriolic words are Lestat's. Armand's irrationally violent behaviour is Lestat's. They are his mirrors. They are telling Louis and the audience what Lestat wanted to say but couldn't because he is a coward. He was a coward during their relationship, during the trial, and after. And he is also cruel.
Manipulation and punishment. This is how his mother taught him to love. And he is enacting it over and over with Louis. Lestat cannot yet perceive his mother as a monster because that would mean facing his own monstrosity. He won't do that.
Could be nice? It could be. It probably won't.
I really enjoyed and admired how in TVL Eric managed to make it so readable that Daniel wanted to be angry at Armand, but his heart was never really in it lol. Like, he was giving “Fuck you, but actually come closer and kiss me” vibes basically the entire time. It was really funny and endearing.
have the loustaters on twitter even read queen of the damned? daniel is a pov character and devil's minion gets an entire chapter. It's not wasting time to adapt one of the most important relationships in the book??
You literally could not pay me to care about anything anyone on Twitter thinks about anything but especially what they think about Devil’s Minion. I cannot fathom why mean comments about them would bother a single person.
Oh their five seconds of screen time were distracting? Good. Guess what? It’s going to be so much worse when we reach the season that actually features them as a couple. They weren’t even meant to be in this one, this was just a teaser for what’s the come.
I’m so sorry that there are so many people who still do not seem to grasp that this is a Vampire Chronicles adaptation and that Armand is one of the most prominent characters in the Vampire Chronicles and that Daniel is his most significant companion. I’m sorry these same people still seem to think they’re watching a regular romance series about two characters and that everything else happening is taking away from that, but there is an actual plot happening and it’s not just about one couple.
Let them be annoyed. Who the hell cares? They are consciously choosing to repeatedly engage with a tv show that irritates them. Think about how strange that is rather than letting it get to you. Devil’s Minion has been massively popular for forty years. That’s longer than a lot of these people have even been alive. Nothing about this matters in the slightest.
Absurd
CaII comes in from some hollywood asshole asking me whether I want to write the movie version of the book. l'm like, blow me, lose my number. Calls me back a week later. What about a documentary? I'm like, Louis won't even talk to me. He says, not Louis, Lestat, the white guy. l'm like, blow me. I hang up. Calls me back a week later. I want to direct it, figuring that'll end it. I have one meeting with him. l'm meeting with Lestat's lawyer, and it's Vampire Rumspringa for Danny Boy Molloy.
Rashid, Daniel Molloy, Raglan James, Louis de Pointe du Lac. We all worked together in Dubai. Burj Al Arab, now HavenMed Senior Care Headquarters.
This is your sundered head. And this is your petulant body. And this is the glorious air between on which the two of you still manage to communicate a good 2 hours and 12 minutes since uncoupling. If you weren’t Lestat’s progeny, this would not be happening. You would be dead,
which is why this is being live-cast to a very important room gathered in Budapest.
We want him to play the concert. We’ve been planning it for a year. Nudging it, urging it on, on the periphery, as we do. “Make more”? We came up with that. Too many of us for what’s left in the ground. Cradle your cell phone. Sell your Range Rover while you can. There was a breakout room at the last G7 conference. They called it. May the Vamps Safely Graze. Can’t see your kind governing, but then you and I have our own reasonings. Evidence of the soul’s existence.
Raglan tells us that powerful people are actively pushing for the concert to happen. According to him, resources are running out, oil, minerals, everything left in the ground, and there are simply too many people. The elite are quietly preparing for the consequences, hoping to preserve what they see as their rightful place in the world. Those in power are not trying to prevent collapse but to manage it in their own favour. Raglan himself is searching for the evidence of the soul.
This echoes Lestat's opening monologue. He describes a world hollowed out by automation, consumerism, celebrity culture, climate crisis, and human life is disposable. And he is in conversation within his soul in the finale, literally a walking proof of souls existence.
The dark, dreary industrial world has finally submitted to automation. Laborers stand in their doorways hitting their pipes as their children half-pipe in their drained, empty swimming pools. Drug stores locked up baby formula and shaving cream while Saks ate Barneys and someone told everyone that Lululemon was sexy. Facts are irrelevant. Feels are everything. And the value of human life, it has never been more arbitrary. David, Freddie, Prince Rogers, they’re all gone, and the lights on Tay Tay’s eras have dimmed. Fire coming down the hill, water moving in on Nantucket. No more safe spaces. It’s my era now.
Humanity in decay, late stage capitalism, consumarism is absurd. Vampirism becomes a metaphor for parasitism (or distraction) in the age of late capitalism (imperialism).
armandisms i find particularly endearing
Lestat is a just a terrible character with little charisma or heart. He is too violent ( and I’m not just talking about the stupid drop) in season 1; basically function as a narrative device until the very end of season 2; and he is passive, pathetic or a bully in season 3. I will never understand the love people feel for him. He is the epitome of a Mary Sue — even his failures are ultimately portrayed as emotional wins and for what?
Moreover the shows decision to add trauma to his backstory in season 3 is so ridiculous. It’s nothing but an attempt to make him more sympathetic since he is such a raging narcissist and psychopath. If they want us to like him, why not make him genuinely nicer in some way? No, instead just have him abuse Louis and Claudia, cheat on Nicki, cheat on Louis, insult and devalue Armand as well as sexually objectify him, a former child sex slave who was groomed, bully and disrespect Daniel after he (or his people) HIRES him to set the story straight, and not just murder but torture humans (for funsies). Yup, he’s a real winner. Eye roll. He can call Armand soulless all he wants but he is the one who is soulless.
Armand, for all his flaws, is a far more interesting and a far more likable character—even cutting off Louis’ head, I still think he has more of a moral compass and is far kinder in every conceivable way. And don’t tell me he’s a liar who killed Claudia. Don’t care. Lestat intended to help kill Louis and Claudia too when he returned to Paris for the trial. He is GUILTY and yet the show and Louis completely absolve him of his crimes. I honestly do not understand how people ship Louis and Lestat. From season 1 I have never seen an ounce of romance from either one, just cheating, manipulation, lust, and violence. What is their love even built on?
I am just so sick of all the love and praise heaped on Lestat for no reason. Other than how sam looks, tell me what is appealing about Lestat? What do you really like? I also can’t stand how most Lestat fans (stans) who love him have this extreme hatred for Armand and Daniel, and honestly even Louis to some degree. I will continue to hate Lestat despite the show and Lestat fans insisting I just don’t understand how amazing and darling and beautiful he is. Just like Lestat fans love to say they wish Daniel and Armand would just die, I wish Lestat would die. Obviously that won’t happen, he’s a Mary Sue and Anne Rice’s self insert, but good lord, he sucks.
Im not even sure why people think Armand would've even had time to deal with his trauma. He literally went from 12 year old child kidnapped and sold into sex slavery to 15 year old boy being groomed and abused by a 1500 year old vampire, then immediately to having his home burned down, friends killed, torture and brainwashing to join a satanic cult for THREE HUNDRED YEARS, and then directly after that Lestat destroy his entire coven, assigned him the job of being a theatre director coven master again and then abandoned him after upheaving his entire life. Like between all that when the hell was he supposed to process his trauma exactly, during his bathroom breaks?
like fandom concepts of “media literacy” have conditioned a very specific form of reading where there is now a singular “point” of any work and the only task of any interpreter is to figure out what that is and then attack anyone they perceive to have failed in this task as “media illiterate” or its correlates. the political implications of said “point”? not a thing the media literate must concern themselves with. discussing the craft - questions of structure, aesthetics, etc. - with which that point is conveyed? a detriment to being “media literate” to even consider such a thing. multivalent meaning and contradictory readings and productive tensions and alternate analytical lenses? what the hell are those
Happy one year love confessionversary to these demented psychopaths. May you cradle each other in eternity.
one thing i will say was a good use of dm's limited screentime in tvl is that both in their first episode on screen together and in the finale they completely disproved the ideas that a) daniel would never feel any compassion for armand or be capable of being nice to him and b) would have no respect for armand's trauma in one fell swoop by having big boss piss him off so bad not once but twice.
I think that Armand sees Marius in Daniel if he was squinting his eyes and sunlight was shining on Daniel from behind so he was more of a silhouette.
And what I mean by that is that maybe there’s a fleeting second when they meet again in Dubai when Armand is seeing him in front of him again and really absorbing how much he’s changed. He’s been stalking him for years but it has nothing on getting to interact with him, and seeing him in his element. Perhaps then there’s one tiny little moment where he thinks he sees his maker.
Maybe it’s just when Daniel is standing in front of Marius’ painting and Armand has a brief flashback to Venice. The Rashid roleplay doesn’t help. The visual of an older man with curly hair and piercing eyes in front of a canvas while he, Armand, is playing a subservient role he’s convinced himself he enjoys.
But it passes in a second because Daniel is unlike Marius in every other way. Daniel knows far more about the world than Marius does because he saw the ugly sides of it. He actually lived in it. He’s smarter than Marius, he’s more accomplished and he’s much kinder. Maybe it doesn’t seem that way at first but what is really kinder? Someone who uses pretty words but beats him and lets his friends assault him? Or someone who is abrasive and crass but would never put him in harm’s way like that?
The biggest difference between Marius and Daniel? Really the only one that matters? Marius thinks Armand is rotten so he left him to rot all the way through. Daniel sees the rot, and loves Armand all the more for it. They could not have less in common.
I've seen multiple people question why Armand is trying to make Louis apologize and it's genuinely making me lose my mind?
Louis swept into his home city, demanded special treatment and to be exempt from coven rules even though Armand already knew he was a vampire killer and was cutting him slack, then put the coven in direct danger of exposure while absolutely refusing any chance to get the fuck out or join the coven that Armand was offering him, while offering him literally 0 verbal affection, very little physical affection, and not even CONFIRMING that they were in a relationship, WHILE evoking his half-remembered real name that he associates with his years as a child slave in a brothel INTO A BDSM DYNAMIC, THEN when Armand was like "Ok, my coven is gonna mutiny if I don't kill you so I'll have to kill you" he proceeded to burn his life's work down and kill 12/13 people Armand had spend the past 200 years with, THEN he explicitly dragged Armand along in a loveless relationship for 77 years JUST TO SPITE LESTAT, WHILE cheating on him more than 200+ times over and over and over
Did you watch the goddamn show? Louis was fucking awful to Armand.
