Hopeless With Technology (Yet Here I Am For Some Reason)

March 13th, 30, bisexual aromantic non-binary, prefers they/them pronouns, High-Fuctioning Autistic, compulsive worry-wart and constantly putting my foot in my mouth, proud Minnesotan

[coglongon]

TADC MOVIE SPOILERS!!!

And a vent.

And also something funny(?) that happened while I watched the movie

So like we can all agree Jax is trans right????? I’m not crazy??? I had a feeling that he (she? They? I’m unsure what I should refer to them as now since in the show they never explicitly change their pronouns) was trans earlier, but after watching Ep. 9 it’s really clear.

But my brother for some reason is making me seem like I’m crazy for saying so? Refused to believe me, laughed at me, quite literally said “get a load of this guy” at me- I’ve SEEN other people say that Jax is trans so surely it’s really obvious right????

My brother’s thirteen so he’s definitely old enough to know about trans people (especially considering the fact I’m trans and have been out for years) I know he doesn’t fully accept me as trans either, but now a character he likes is trans and he refuses to accept or believe that as well.

Is there any possible way I can explain it to him in even simpler terms to get it through his head? (I’ve already tried explaining it, and he’s seen the movie and rest of the show with me so.)

This probably shouldn’t be as big of a deal to me as it is (especially since I don’t even like Jax. Him abstracting was a win for me and I was actually glad they didn’t make Gangle really mourn for them after they essentially abused her.) but I guess it means a lot to me. Maybe if I can explain how Jax feels maybe he’ll understand what I feel.

I was genuinely hoping watching the movie together would be something good to do as siblings too.

I’ve been looking forward to this for so long, hell, as stupid as it is TADC helped keep me alive and all the hurtful things he said right after was just. He also told me how bad the movie was after too while smiling, which I think was just him trying to make me mad (well it worked.)

Anyways here’s something that uhhh I don’t really know what to make of. So me and my brother were two of FOUR people who were in the theatre that showing for some reason, and after the movie one of the other people said they’d publicly jack off if Jax came back 😭 and they kept calling them Babygirl which I admit it was really funny (at least to me)

Anyways the other person who was with them complimented me two different times and that made me really happy

And they were both REALLY happy when they saw the end credits art about uhh Zoobles door (me too gang this is a WIN)

[miki-13]

You're not crazy, Jax is transfem, your brother is transphobic and very much in denial.

I'm deeply sad you had to go through this, but I'm also very amused at your brother dealing with Jax being a girl

As for how to convince him, bring up how Goose is transfem and has said Jax is her self insert. Hard to get more blatant than that.

[chunkey-cheezerz]

trans and nonbinary identities are erased and ignored all the time. no matter how blatant and obvious, no matter how it's presented.

in real life, as a nonbinary person, i am perceived as either a man or a woman by a majority of people. no matter how visibly "queer" (piercings, dyed hair, colorful funky jewelry, etc) there will still be people misgendering me at a first glance. I've come to accept this.

in terms of fictional instances, the big one i think about is the perception of Frisk/Kris from Undertale/Deltarune. they're both exclusively referred to with gender neutral terminology and pronouns. yet there will always be someone out there who will say that, because of the gender neutral terms, "their gender is up to interpretation". its almost as if people do that to nonbinary people every day, ignoring their nonbinary identity.

SPOILERS FOR TADC FINALE UNDER THE CUT

ever since the finale for the amazing digital circus, people have been debating if Jax is really supposed to be a trans woman... its really made me upset to see how many people do not believe she is. it is ignoring every single sign thrown at you by the TRANS WOMAN CREATOR. Gooseworx could have had jax say something along the lines of "i want to be a woman" and people would STILL be in denial. its very much as "up to interpretation" as I Saw The TV Glow in terms of transfem representation.

[joyflameball]

Actually the real villain of TADC is Kaufmo because if he hadn't knocked while Jax and Ribbit were having their beautiful transgender moment Jax wouldn't have freaked out and gone back to repression and then literally none of this would've happened. Kaufmo is the reason for everything and I think it's good that he died

[miki-13]

Unwilling Instigator Of Doom, thy name is Kaufmo.

It could also be why Jax starts distancing himself from Kaufmo, as he not so subconsciously blames him.

[histrionicscribbler]

coming from a transmasc nonbinary person, i think it's weird that some people are so allergic to binary trans rep, specifically binary transfem rep.

if characters show a whiff of transmasculinity people begin accepting the fact they're men with little resistance

transfeminine characters are forced to live in nb limbo until they openly declare they're women

i feel like this is in no small part influenced by transmascs who relate to closeted transfem characters before it's revealed in what way they're trans. they spend a great deal of energy relating and projecting and theorizing, but when the character isn't the "right" kind of trans...

all of a sudden she could be nonbinary.

[jayvikted]

i wonder also if that pomni was originally going to be voiced by goose's sister means anything thematically? the character played by goose's sister stands by the character goose called her self insert at her absolute lowest and is supportive to the utmost despite being rebuked endlessly

[icarus-evergreen]

TADC SPOILERS BELOW

“Who cares?”

“Divine intervention.”

“I wanna be praised from a

New. Perspective.”

“I think you look good!”

[He/They]

[scribbl3dog]

TADC and Bojack Horseman Spoilers under cut

I feel like I need to check this...

Were not supposed to like Jax as a person, right? Like, it's a Bojack situation right? Where you understand how a person might have ended up that way, you may pity them in their sad moments, but you're never meant to take their side. Right?

Bojack went through so much trauma. We see him crying and depressed in his adult years. We see his childhood abuse. But he's still a very shitty person. All the hurting of Tod and the offensive comments and the grooming of Penny amongst many other things are never excused. Jax is kinda in a similar boat, and we aren't meant to excuse her right? It's different only in the sense that she died before she could redeem herself, or improve herself, right?

Because if we're meant to root for Jax, that's like, really bad? And maybe not the best outcome. Liek understand and feel sorry for, I get. But, she's a very very bad person. And she had all the support she needed, minus like serious therapy be she needed that too, but she ahd a lot of people willing to support her. And even though she went through a lot of horrible shit, like Bojack, it's an explanation but not a justification right? Like she's still the shitty person who we're meant to actively disapprove of right?

I feel like I'm seeing people talk about Jax liek thats not the case? Which kinda reframes the entire show in a kinda bad way?

Edit- I messed up and misgendered Jax, so I've corrected that

But also were meant to disagree when Jax says that Ribbit sprt of like coursed her into sharing her personal life, right? Because she basically jsut asked jax what she's been through after sharing their own baggage, so like Jaxs view is skewed and a bit incorrect on that too right?

[miki-13]

You are correct!

Goose said she actually went out on her way to make Jax as unlikable as possible!

[horngryonmain]

TADC THE LAST ACT SPOILERS BTW

Y'know I think it's kind of funny how many people were dissatisfied with the ending of TADC because there wasn't full closure or a proper enough exploration of all the characters. On one hand, that's a pretty valid criticism, it's not like I tell people to not be disappointed for wanting to see more of the characters.

On the other hand, with all the scenes showing that people can come back from abstractions, all the worlds staying open for everyone, the members of the circus being given more power and agency over their lives, and GANGLE AND ZOOBLE HAVING SEX, the entirety of the finale felt like it a giant, flashing neon sign saying "IF YOU WANT TO SEE MORE OF THESE CHARACTERS, MAKE CONTENT OF THEM YOURSELVES."

I just feel like us fanartists have been given the biggest gift and I see virtually no one excited about it. A literal playground of possibilities, all feasible within the actual canon of the story.

No one will be able to say the smut I'm gonna write couldn't happen in canon, and honestly that's a blessing I won't take for granted.

[ccarmody101]

Waking Up - comic with a little comedy to help heal me rn

[sherbertclown]

[[TADC EPISODE 9 SPOILERS]]

Bro.

[weregonnaneedabiggerboat]

isn't she lovely...

[oncelerfucker]

Jax literally killed himself in the circus after making the other two openly queer people around him - a nonbinary person and a non-straight woman - the targets of some of the worst of his externalized self hatred and queerphobia.

But in real life, in the physical world, she's at Riley's bar. She's surrounded by other queer people. He killed himself but she's alive in a place hosted by the nonbinary person he resented. She has the community of other queer people that he rejected.

I wonder if Goose meant anything by this.

[tentendump]

why are we fighting over who to ship with jax? nah that rabbit doesn't deserve anything

(oopx contains spoilers⚠️⚠️)

[metalsonicmustdie]

.smth about extremely repressed and suicidal trans girl having the “evil” version of herself tell her that she looks good in a dress. and then she tells that reflection that she wants her dead. Yeah

[ventismfsblog]

[tobidei]

yyh moment

[maridoodles]

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