What goes here?

Idk how to Tumblr, but we working on it. I think you're supposed to pick a genre? I pick words. 🫠

[waitineedaname]

when I started orv I expected it to be a story where lots of main characters die, like i was coming at it as someone who's read homestuck, I fully expected a lot of major character death, I expected no one from that first subway car to survive. and then as I kept reading, it really struck me just how many people survived and how aside from kim dokja dying a dozen times, no one in the main party has died, and now I've realized that is extremely intentional. this is a story where a lot of people are supposed to die, it's a story that's supposed to force repeated sacrifice, and kim dokja looked at that story and went "absolutely the fuck not, that's not the story I want to tell" and pulled that burden of sacrifice onto himself over and over because he refuses to be part of a story where his friends die

[nonexistententityy]

I know the fandom decided that Gakane is puppy/dog coded, but I didn't know that Yuder canonically calls him an excited large dog! 🤣

[batmanisagatewaydrug]

you guys aren't gonna like this but if you want ao3 to be a neutral archive that will host anything that includes shit made with ai no matter how objectionable you find that

[anyasadventures]

Ugh. I hate AI fics but you're RIGHT. Just like with everything else we don't like, we can still just. Not engage with it.

[signoraviolettavalery]

no. I disagree. ao3 is an archive of fan content. as in, created by fans. An AI is not a fan. it's not a person. it can't write or create. ao3 is an archive of transformative work and chatGPT cannot perform meaningful transformative work, it can only regurgitate slop.

and yes, as others have said, ao3 still does have certain limitations. You can't plagiarize - and AI is a plagiarism machine, you can't post 'iso' or 'placeholder' fics, etc. It can absolutely choose to say the content it hosts must be made by humans without censoring the acual content.

[lynati]

^^^^^

[firelxdykatara]

Except that Ao3 absolutely cannot choose to say the content it hosts must be made by humans without opening the door to the very censorship it was created to avoid.

Because there is no way to tell with 100% accuracy that a piece of writing was created by or with the aid of generative AI, and anything less than 100% accuracy is completely unacceptable, no nuance, no exceptions. You can tell with 100% accuracy if something is not a fanwork--like an ISO or placeholder post that does not contain a fanwork--and you can tell with 100% accuracy if a fanwork contains a link to a payment apparatus or is otherwise soliciting payment for fic in violation of the TOS, so these things can be disallowed and, when discovered and reported as violations, dealt with by PAC. And you can tell with 100% accuracy that a fic has been plagiarized, meaning that it has pulled entire passages word for word from another fic and this can therefore be detailed in a report in order for PAC to take action. (This is important to note because while generative AI is in fact The Plagiarism Machine, that can only be proven on the back end via the datasets used to train it. You can't actually look at generative output and tell which place the words were ripped from, because LLMs operate on statistical probabilities of word order, not actually pulling phrases wholesale from a specific work.)

But you cannot tell with 100% accuracy that a particular passage has been generated with AI.

And we are already seeing the problem with spurious AI accusations! People are claiming that 'excessive use of em-dashes' is a 'tell' for AI, when the only reason em-dashes exist in AI-generated output is because the machines were trained on human-generated writing that used them! (And as a writer who frequently ODs on em-dashes and italics, I find that particular 'tell' especially insulting. My overuse of em-dashes comes from my own brain, thank you very much.) So the only way to actually tell that someone on Ao3 is using AI to write their fic is if the admit as much up-front.

Guess what would happen if Ao3 decided to ban AI fics from the platform? Those fics would stop being tagged, and then we'd run into the exact same problems we had on FFN with fics being grudge-reported by bad faith actors, which was one of many reasons Ao3 was created in the first place--so that people couldn't do that.

Generative AI sucks and I think everyone who uses it to create fics is a loser, but I'd much rather be able to avoid them by excluding a tag or muting an author than have to worry about some asshole who hates me trying to get my fics deleted by reporting me to PAC for suspected AI use.

[dewdropdaffodil]

i love the tags by @silvysartfulness

[orviposition-deactivated2026012]

singshong held an interview with the orv simplified chinese publishers. they were asked 11 questions and I tried translating their answers

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[nonexistententityy]

Did that one person who wrote the daemon crossover read this? You know what, I can't clearly remember everyone's daemon in that fic. Oh no! I need to reread it! 🏃‍♀️

[valtsv]

there's this character dynamic that's not necessarily enemies to lovers, where one or both parties don't initially respect or trust the other person in much the same way that a feral animal sees anyone who tries to approach it first as a threat that's like cocaine to me

[orviposition-deactivated2026012]

it hurts so bad to see non orv readers talk about how much they love tropes present in orv 💔💔💔💔💔💔

[nonexistententityy]

Would Yuder and Kishiar count for this i wonder? Yuder being the slightly feral one, of course.

[kuttithevangu]

I like books that are trying to say something and I also think books that aren’t trying to say anything are a vital part of the ecosystem (sometimes if a book is too good I can’t read it until the stars align). But also, on the third hand, I think books that aren’t trying to say anything are saying something. It just isn’t something the author wanted to say

[cruelbenevolence]

hjyj moodboard except it transitions into being taejinjae at the end

[kiddokori]

orv asks the question “is it morally reprehensible to use a narrative’s suffering for your own comfort and happiness” and answers “no, because you cared for the story and its characters, you connected to them as if they were real, you struggled with them you celebrated with them, and you prayed theyd have a happy ending. you supported them as much as they supported you.”

orv then asks “well can it be a sex thing” and goes “oh yeah for sure”

[doublism]

they used to make smackable technology. you used to be able to hit your tv when it didn't work good.

[wizardarchetypes]

when I was a kid I had an old tv in my room that would always turn to unwatchable static in the middle of shows but one night my sister and I were watching Naruto & every time Kakashi was on-screen the static cleared so we were like “hahaha the tv looooves Kakashi.”

I had a Kakashi bookmark so we held it up against the screen as a joke but the static actually cleared up. Mystified, we tried different bookmarks and objects with the same plastic material but nothing else worked, only the Kakashi bookmark.

We ended up taping it to the corner of the screen and it stayed there for 11 years until we moved out. When I was older people would be like “can you move the bookmark off the screen” bc it did sort of block a bit of the view but I would demonstrate the static issue and everyone was always just like “huh. what the hell?? well…alright.”

No explanation, but thanks Kakashi.

[scarletjedi]

I had a similar tv! It was a tv with a built in dvd and vcr because it was in college and I’m apparently old now. But! The dvd player never wanted to play- unless it was Chicago (2002). First, we would put that dvd in, let it start, and then swap it for the movie we really wanted to watch. It got to the point where we would put in the dvd we wanted and sing “he had it coming!!!” At the screen at volume. Fucking worked *every time*

Bizarre.

[inkcurlsandknives]

I miss when technology had real personality, instead of fake ones designed to generate lies and nonsense and spy on you.

[tygerbug]

ubi, universal basic income

[dokjas-lostselfpreservation]

The repeated cycle of "forgiving—accepting—allowing" is so so precious to me.

forgiving yourself for being bitter and alone bc you were just a kid who had to shoulder the world's rejection simply cause of how you looked, accepting your fear of abandonment and overcoming it, and allowing yourself to trust again.

forgiving yourself for not fitting into the societal/gender norms bc your likes should never have to fit in a box made by someone else anyway, accepting yourself as you are, overcoming the anxiety, guilt and fear of rejection, and allowing yourself to express your character freely.

forgiving yourself for being a survivor in an accident where others didn't make it, bc your innocent actions weren't the reason for the cause—you were just a naíve kid in a bad situation, accepting your loneliness and others help while unlearning the belief of "undeserving of it all", and allowing yourself to grieve those you lost along the way and make new bonds.

forgiving yourself for losing control and hurting those picking on you bc you were alone with all the pointing fingers and not a single guiding hand, accepting that your mistakes doesn't decide who you are—that you're not a monster for fighting back, and allowing yourself to put faith on others and trust them.

forgiving yourself for not being able to 'protect' at all times bc you were simply a kid in a household surrounded by authorities you couldn't dare defy until older, accepting your feelings as they come, accepting that you can't always be there for everyone and sometimes all you can do is cheer from the sideline, and allowing yourself to be a kid.

forgiving yourself for being angry at people even after accepting their apology bc you didn't know you had other options, accepting all your negatives and unlearning the process of repressing your feelings, and allowing yourself to unapologetically show exactly how you feel.

forgiving yourself for being unruly and messy bc you're just a kid who was fed empty lies and now can't trust what's real and what's not, accepting that you do feel lonely and unlearning the trust issues formed along the way, and allowing yourself to trust those around you again.

it truly is beautiful. gods i love this show.

[nonexistententityy]

I don't even know this show or book. It still HITS.

[orviposition-deactivated2026012]

I can't believe what I'm about to say right now but Kim Dokja is not completely at fault for thinking that Yoo Joonghyuk wants to kill him.

Because 1) Kim "I'm Unworthy Of Love" Dokja cannot possibly fathom that his favorite person in the world would love him back.

And 2, whenever Yoo Joonghyuk addresses Kim Dokja with "You (fool)" - aka nearly every time they talk to each other - he uses "네놈" which is an extremely harsh, hateful and borderline derogatory way of addressing someone 😭😭 Of course, the meaning changes once we add the context of Yoo Joonghyuk's 'Kim Dokja-obsessed' nature and how much he is down-bad and possessive of him, but Kim Dokja is oblivious to that particular context. Hence the misunderstandings.

[thequeervampiric]

love saying "question mark?" out loud when I'm talking about something i'm unsure of

[moveslikekeithrichards]

when you save alarms for specific things but then you just keep reusing them. like sure wake me up at the chocolate milk alarm, what do i care

[nonexistententityy]

As someone who still has an active alarm to pick up a graduated sibling from school, I feel called out.

[the-bar-sinister]

I'm so glad to see AO3 making it absolutely clear that none of these things are allowed to even be HINTED at.

Here's some of the language from the new post about AO3's police on commercial promotion:

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There is a wide variety of things that are not allowed under AO3's non-commercialization rules.

Any other language which one might interpret as requesting or having requested financial contributions, whether for yourself or others. This covers indirect references, euphemisms, or other language intended to get around the TOS. Some examples of this include:

Thanks for the coffee!

My ☕ username is the same as my username here

This chapter is brought to you by my patrons

You know where to find me if you want early or bonus chapters

Check out my Twitter to learn how you can donate to me since I'm not allowed to discuss it here

If you want to hear more about my ideas, talk about fandom, or find more of my stuff for a coin, visit my Tumblr

Solicitation is not allowed, whether it's for yourself or on behalf of someone else.

[mysteryteacup]

#as writers we CANNOT make any money off of our fic#we could endanger our entire ecosystem of authors#does no one remember the Anne Rice stuff#we do our work out of passion and for free. if you want to make money off of your writing DONT WRITE FANFICTION <- prev

Alas, I'm fairly sure a lot of the people whining about not being able to force capitalism into their hobby probably weren't born yet when Anne Rice was sending lawyers after and doxxing fanwriters for violating her copyright. *takes a heavy drink of water like it's bourbon* I feel old.

[roach-works]

AO3's structure is of a nonprofit, noncommercial library of fair use transformative works. it is not a market or vendor space, and so they cannot allow commercial works to be hosted there.

if you WANT to make money off of your fanfiction, you can assume the legal liability for doing so on another site, such as wattpad, patreon, etsy, bluesky, facebook, etc. they are different sites that aren't nonprofit archives of fair use transformative works, and they have different regulations.

they also will not protect you from any legal actions against you.

AO3 has lawyers, which protect their users and their archive from copyright claims, specifically under fair use laws that guarantee that because none of the works had been made for money, none of the works could be prosecuted as copyright infringement, since they weren't competitive with the source material's owners.

you can't have your cake and fuck it, too. you can't use AO3's structure in ways that specifically endanger AO3's explicit mission, terms of service, and operating parameters.

either you follow the rules, or you go somewhere with different rules, or you break the rules and get kicked out when you're caught.

[iphoenixrising]

Do me a favor and spread this around to the younger people in the fandom. There’s a reason why we don’t do this at Ao3

[minyicho]

starting a collection of my favourite AO3 author’s notes

honourable mentions

[nonexistententityy]

Ao3 legends we salute you. 🫡

[cacodaemonia]

Okay, you know what? After reading this post, I jokingly said we should all just make a pact to reblog it five times a day forever. So I'm gonna do this louder for the people in the back:

AO3 WAS CREATED BY FANS, FOR FANS

AO3 IS RUN BY FANS (VOLUNTEERS, NO LESS)

AO3 IS PART OF THE NON-PROFIT, ORGANIZATION FOR TRANSFORMATIVE WORKS

AO3 IS NOT OWNED BY ANY COMPANIES AND DOES NOT EARN REVENUE

AO3 OPERATES ON DONATIONS FROM FANS

again:

AO3 WAS CREATED BY FANS, FOR FANS

[rhapsodyinalto]

Ao3 is like the one space left where I don’t feel like I’m drowning in capitalism. There’s no membership fee to access, I’m not assaulted by clickbait ads covering every inch of my screen. Writers are generously gifting their stories. They aren’t beholden to anyone’s schedule but their own, there’s no algorithm to feed or jump through hoops for. They write about the fandoms that inspire them, expanding on worlds or deep diving into character studies. They experiment with tropes and language and style and genre, no matter how “marketable” it is.

In a world where everything is increasingly commodified and regulated and restricted I cherish this little corner of the internet more fiercely.