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Last theories for Miraculous season 6 finale - Part 2

We left off in Part 1 concluding that the Ladybug seeing fighting Nemesis wasn't a Rena Bug illusion. In that case, is it the real Marinette transformed ? Making the Marinette we see akumatized a fake? A double created by Argos, or some other way?

I don't think so, because to me, only the real Marinette could display such genuine distress and sorrow over her dispute with Alya, to the point of attracting Chrysalis's ultrakuma to her

And there's also the spoilers that Mr Renders 2 managed to get

But Nemesis's recently released synopsis also seems to confirms that "Marinette" akumatization might be part of a plan

And let's not forget that leaked scene with two Marinettes

So if not a Sentinette, how ? I have one theory, one another that some fans came up with.

First theory : The rooster Miraculous invoking the power to physically split a Miraculous holder between their hero personality and their civilian personality, or simply to create a duplication, like Naruto's multi-cloning technique

the second theory directly addresses the following spoiler

Is the "Yes and now" A typo with the real intention of writing "yes and no" ? Or is it another clue?

Thanks this fan for having considered the following theory

Second theory : Time travel, there's a Marinette from the past/present, and Marinette from the future

In any case, these two theories could explain a detail that several fans have surely already noticed.

This Marinette who is standing next to Tikki and seems to be losing Alya's trust, she doesn't have her bag, the bag Tikki usually hides in, the bag Marinette NEVER parts with.

For me, this detail serves to differentiate between two Marinettes, as it was done in Chat Blanc, where the Marinette from the broken timeline had a detail solely to differentiate her from the Marinette who fought Chat Blanc.

Her loose hairs, while the Marinette from the fixed timeline kept her pigtails.

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Last theories for Miraculous season 6 finale - Part 1

So there's only 7 days left before the airing of Secret Protocole, and 2 weeks before the airing of Nemesis.

First, we got the confirmation from official spoilers (thanks to Mr. Renders 2 hosting Q&A related to S6 Finale) and the last Gloob trailer of Secret Protocole that Rena Bug was gonna her appearance in episode 25, and not in episode 26.

Which in itself confirms one thing.

The Ladybug fighting Wang Cheng is Rena bug using the illusion power to disguise herself as Ladybug, and making sure she can use the power of the lucky charm for the fight so that the illusion is perfect enough to fool Chrysalis.

Because Marinette seems to realize early in the episode that something is wrong, and that her uncle might be an imposter, making her theorize that the new butterfly wielder might be on her trail.

Thus making Marinette use one of the 2 thousands protocols she made to protect heroes secret identity, and that she shared with her teammates in the beginning of the episode (leaked scene shared by Gloob).

But after the Kung Food akuma fight, Perhaps Marinette's suspicions have been allayed. After all, if the butterfly's power can indeed grant the chameleon's power, can it also grant the power of a former akuma ? To the point of replicating said akuma perfectly ?

Many have already theorize that Lila potential chameleon powers might be a gift from the supreme, and not a power she grant herself with the butterfly miraculous. But she might akumatize herself in a former akuma if she is impersonating said person whose specific akuma originated from. And the Supreme interference is something even Marinette cannot anticipate at this point.

Perhaps that's why, in the new Gloob trailer, Marinette also seems surprised and shocked that Uncle Wang in the guest room is indeed a fake, when her mother answers a phone call from the real Wang and Fei.

And fearing for her parents safety, and seeing them realize that an imposter is in their house, Marinette puts back the earrings that Alya had returned to her after the fight

Before opening the door behind which the new butterfly wielder most likely is

It's impossible to say at this point whether Marinette will discover Chrysalis when she opens that door, or if Chrysalis would have already left. In any case, the urgency of the situation might encourage Marinette to reveal to her parents that she is Ladybug, as theorized by many fans after the synopsis for season 7 mentioned new allies for Marinette with whom she can confide much more easily than before.

Something the spoilers confirmed

And those last spoilers confirms another thing

The Ladybug we see in the Nemesis trailer isn't Rena Bug

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Smarty Pants last Miraculous video is worth watching (Season 6 Finale)

Among the YouTube channels that analyze and theorize about Miraculous Ladybug, I highly recommend Smarty Pants, who I think did a brilliant job trying to reconstruct the potential scenario that will unfold during the season 6 finale, and his deductions regarding the synopsis of the first episodes of season 7.

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considering the season 4 finale trailer gloob logo was this.. and it's relation to how the finale ended......

what could a logo like this mean?? (season 6 finale trailer)

it's a lunar themed almost stone-style emboss

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So Far, Gloob logo promoted for the season 4 finale and the season 5 finale gave us clues of things that would happen reguarding Ladybug.

For the season 4 finale, it was a clue about her yoyo being stolen by the power of the dog Miraculous wielded by Flairmidable.

And for the season 5 finale, it was a clue about Marinette unifying the ladybug and black cat miraculous.

So what does the Gloob logo for season 6 finale truly means ?

It may just confirms Marinette's akumatization into a statue like goddess Nemesis representation, and it would actually weight toward the akumatization of the real Marinette, instead of a dopelganger.

Although with the theory going around that ladybug will find Chrysalis's lair by using Nemesis, it is still not out of the realm of possibilities that the one who will be akumatized into Nemesis is a Marinette doppelganger, and not the real one.

Although ... I don't see how a fake Marinette would manage to feel negative emotions so strong reguarding Alya that she would successfully attrack one of Chrysalis ultrakuma.

I lean more toward the idea that the same resilience Marinette had even when she was akumatized into heartfixer might come into play again. In the potential scenario whereher her second akumatization would truly be due to Chrysalis getting to her during a sincere breaking moment, A backplan that Marinette had previously established with Alya and the others miraculous heroes in case she was akumatized again might come into play.

And Marinette even when akumatized could see her dramatic situation as an unexpected opportunity to find Chrysalis.

Or Rena Bug posing as Ladybug as soon as she would realize Marinette's akumatization after their argument, would take matter into her own hands.

Because no matter how angry she would be at Marinette's after finding out the Gabriel secret or seeing Marinette still refusing to confide in her, I don't see her letting her resentment prevent her from doing the right thing in this situation, which is to absolutely not let the new butterfly win against Ladybug.

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*Spoilers* MARINETTE GOT CAPTURED THATS WHY HE WAS SO MAD

GO SAVE YOUR WOMEN CHAT!!

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While Wang Cheng was among the theorized akuma candidates for Secret Protocole, to have it confirmed now raise the question of what situation in this episode could cause his akumatization, and why he would target Marinette specifically.

His first akumatization in season 1 was due to a cruel act of sabotage that could have cost him his career, but the only other thing that I think could anger him enough would be if his family was hurt.

And if the birthday party of the young girl he raised were ruined, especially since he had come down to Paris to be present for his niece's birthday, it could potentially lead to an akumatization

But It's difficult at this stage to say whether Lila, who would have managed to get herself invited to Sabine's birthday party through her encounter with Wang Cheng at the end of the previous epsiode, would really be able to convince Wang that Marinette could have sabotaged the birthday party by, for example, knocking over the cake, when she had spent all morning preparing it with her father.

Actually, when I think back to that scene where we see an angry Tom about to attack someone, it must be the moment when Kung Fu kidnaps Marinette, because the only times I remember seeing Tom angry were when his daughter was hurt or the victim of an injustice.

Besides, to be honest, even though Lila is skilled and even managed to make Tom and Sabine doubt Marinette in episodes like Ladybug (Season 3), Adoration (Season 5), and Revelation (Season 5), it never got to the point where they were akumatized. Even during Marinette's expulsion in Season 3, Sabine's near akumatization into Verity Queen stemmed from her desire to prove her daughter's innocence.

So I find it very hard to believe that uncle Wang would be convinced by a girl he just met that Marinette would deliberately sabotage her own mother's birthday. On the contrary, if it's just a case of a ruined cake, he'd surely blame it on Marinette's clumsiness.

I've racked my brains, but I can only think of two possible explanations as to why an akumatized Wang Cheng would target Marinette .

First option : Lila disguising herself as Marinette and framing her for something that would anger (the following image is a leak, and it doesn't really looks like an expression Marinette would usually make)

Second option, and currently the most popular among the fandom It's not the real Uncle Wang

According to that theory, Lila didn't travel to Shanghai to meet Uncle Wang in order to get herself invited to Sabine's birthday, she wanted to meet Wang so she could learn all she can about him in order to better imitate and impersonate him.

And it might explain why in the trailers Kung Food keep fighting heroes and pursuing Ladybug while still holding Marinette under his arm and not doing anyhting else to the poor girl but keep her prisoner, since Lila's plan would be too keep Marinette immobilized and under her watchful eye to see if Ladybug appears even when Marinette is in a position where she cannot transform.

And assuming that Marinette might not have had time to lend her earrings to Alya in that episode, and that Alya's unification of the ladybug and the fox miraculous teased by Gloob would appear instead in Nemesis, an illusion of Ladybug participating in the fight to rescue Marinette might not be enough to dispel Chrysalis's suspicions, if "Ladybug" doesn't invoke Lucky Charm throughout the fight, thus leading to the theorized scenarios of Nemesis where this time the ruse would have to be taken further to convince Chrysalis that Marinette and Ladybug are not the same person.

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Re: S6 Finale Akuma

Just now occurred to me since I'm not roasting in the sun. Greek themed statue akuma that has a good chance of being Marinette? Lady Justice anyone?

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The greek Goddess Nemesis does indeed fit the very concept of Lady Justice

"Goddess of Just Punishment - Nemesis in Greek mythology is the goddess of just retribution and balance. She is known for her role in punishing hubris, arrogance, and inappropriate behavior. Her symbol is often the scales, which she uses to restore balance."

And some of the illustrations and statues of Nemesis show her wielding a sword and wings. Exactly like the Akuma of the episode Nemesis

This makes me wonder why Marinette's akumatization would take this form. A rift in her friendship with Alya, as suggested by recent trailers, shouldn't it instead spawn an akuma similar to Heartfixer ? Or would she take this form upon realizing the injustice of the burden of her secrets? Or is this form she assumes as Nemesis linked to her self-loathing, to the fact that all the lies she's accumulated make her feel the need to embody a righteous goddess who punishes evil as a form of redemption?

Or could this form emerge because her own akumatization is part of a plan by Ladybug, Rena Rouge, and Cat Noir to trap Chrysalis ? After all... the synopsis for the season 6 finale reveals that they will take risks to try and unmask Chrysalis, and the latest trailers don't reveal at all what role this scene will play in the Nemesis episode.

I once theorized that a Marinette doppelganger would be created by Argos to try and trap Chrysalis. It remains to be seen whether this doppelganger will be the victim akumatized into Nemesis, or if, in order for the ultra-akuma to be drawn to genuine negative emotions, the real Marinette will allow herself to be akumatized, while her doppelganger will be the one entrusted with the Ladybug Miraculous to play the role of Ladybug.

And if no doppelganger is involved, then the Ladybug we see facing Nemesis can only be Rena Rouge with the power of the Ladybug Miraculous, having taken Ladybug form with the power of illusion to protect Marinette's secret identity from Chrysalis.

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Who's more obsessed with Marinette?

Chloé "Immediately targets her when returning to Paris" Bourgeois.

Or

Lila "Goes to her uncle's restaurant in Shanghai just to learn more about her" Rossi.

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I'm planning a post dedicated to Lila's obsession with Marinette, and hopefully we've might obtain new angles on this obsession with the season 6 finale, but Chloé's fixation on Marinette was also something in this episode.

Let's recap .... Initially, Chloé announces her intention to target Zoé, Sabrina, and Marinette, by whom she felt humiliated, and unhesitatingly makes Marinette her first target.

She starts chasing her, almost cornering her in a dark alley, all the while calling Marinette in a creepy way and drawing out her name.

And Chloé repeat that pattern of chasing Marinette across Paris, taking her time looking for her, and still calling her name like a serial killer hunting their next victim

to the point of not even noticing that the two other supposed targets of her revenge were nearby.

Even when faced with a terrified Ladybug and Cat Noir who can only flee against her power, Chloe doesn't bother chasing them, and once again prioritizes hunting her target.

And goes as far as reaching Marinette's balcony, willing to track her down even in the poor girl own home

What else is there but obsession ?

It reminds me of what by dear online friend shootingstarssel once told me about narcissistic bullies, that for some of them, once they have chose a target, they can never let go of it, and it becomes a real addiction to them to harass and hurt their chosen scapegoat.

Ever since Chloé made Marinette the main focus target of her bullying, her persecution of Marinette has become an addiction for Chloé, and to no longer being feared by her chosen target is absolutely unbearable for Chloé.

It seems like Another ressemblance that Marinette seems to share with Peter Parker, aka Spider-Man, is the obsession and fixation she inspires in her adversaries.

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Huge thank you to @gds-worblr for bringing up we've gotten another poster revealed at the Annecy Festival! So let's have them both together and compare them!

First thing to note is Chrysalis and Gabriel both look unchanged, but what has changed are Ladybug and Chat Noir's positions and expressions.

Right away this almost looks like a before with the Annecy Festival poster and the one they dropped days before on their socials as the after as they ready up to battle. Or it could be the reverse given how we've been seeing how the secret has been playing out as of late.

Instead of angry Chat has a look of shock and fear. He also has his weapon lowered further emphasizing he's more shocked than scared. Chat by this point for sure would most likely have his bo staff out in a way to protect him and for sure Ladybug even if he's frightened. Something he's proven in the show time and time again.

Ladybug meanwhile, doesn't have her yo-yo out as her own expression is in shock and fear as well. Except her hands are open in a way when you're not just startled, but when you've been caught. You know the whole "Hand caught in the cookie jar" sort of thing. And we the audience know that could mean one huge thing for her to be caught for.

The Lie.

So, this may mean that Season 7 truly will see the Lie be revealed to be that, a lie. Considering the fact we have Chrysalis and Gabriel behind them, it may be hinting what many people have been theorizing. That unfortunately for Marinette and Adrien the lie could very much be revealed by the worst person to do so.

Not Marinette or Ladybug herself, not Alya, not Nathalie, not Felix or Kagami... But the one person who would use this lie to happily inflict as much pain as she can to not just Mari, but to Adrien as well. Because if Adrien is heartbroken, then that only hurts Marinette more. And Lila would want nothing more than to hurt Ladybug and Marinette more than anything thanks to her obsession with her.

Lila may truly cause chaos doing the opposite of what she's done since she's been introduced. Reveal the truth...

And if we take into the idea that the poster on the right is the after when the lie is revealed, Chat being absolutely furious would make sense. Complicated feelings of his father aside Adrien still loves him. She's essentially tarnishing his name, speaking ill of the dead. Considering he's seemingly made "Peace" about who his father was thanks to Lady Chaos, he won't take kindly to it. But more importantly his love and trust for Ladybug. Chrysalis revealing such a thing, essentially saying Ladybug lied to Adrien, to Chat, to the entire world about who Gabriel was? How could he not be furious? He'll see it as Chrysalis being cruel and just wanting to tear them apart and he won't let it happen.

That would also explain Ladybug's expression. Her weapon is out and she's ready to fight, but her expression shows she's not all in it. She's probably absolutely growing with guilt and horror at not just the truth bring brought to light, but how Chat is defending her.

Because he's wrong, Ladybug did lie. And yet here he is defending her as if she hadn't done just that.

Again I could just be overanalyzing these, but I will say it does look like we are getting something big for season 7 for both Ladybug and Chat Noir. Along with the fact that the lie absolutely is going to come out at some point, the biggest question is will it happen in the Season 6 Finale?

Or is this hinting we're going to get full fledged reactions from both of them in Season 7? Because honestly considering we've spent a whole season building the tension with the lie we absolutely deserve to see Adrien's full reaction and the consequences of the Lie itself.

Season 7 feels like it is going to be absolutely intense...

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I was absolutely sure that Chrysalis wouldn't exploit or reveal the truth about Gabriel being Monarch until she had her hands on undeniable proof that Marinette and Ladybug are the same person, just to make sure that revealing this secret would destroy the two figures whose existence is hurting her ego the most, two figure she so obsessively despises that she needs them to be one and the same to be able to strike them both with that reveal.

Having proof that Marinette is Ladybug would allow Lila to reveal this secret along with the one about Gabriel, leaving no escape for Ladybug or Marinette, and ruinign her reputation and social life even among her loved ones behind the mask. Whereas revealing the secret without having confirmation of Ladybug's secret identity would still allow her to retreat into her life without the mask.

The presence of Ladybug on the poster for this season 7 seems, however, to suggest that her identity won't actually be compromised with the revelation of the truth about Gabriel, otherwise Ladybug would have already handed over the reins to Sacrabella to step back.

Which brings me back to the reason why Chrysallis, who until then had refrained from revealing this secret—probably as long as she didn't have irrefutable proof that Marinette is Ladybug, or maybe to prevent her new “mother” from ending up in jail—would suddenly change her mind.

The only explanation I can imagine is that she will fail in her plan for the season 6 finale – to confirm/reveal Ladybug's secret identity. Many of us have theorized that Rena Rouge would end up unifying her miraculous with Ladybug's in order to impersonate Ladybug while Marinette would be at her mom's birthday, during which Lila would very likely find a way to crash the party. I theorized that this strategy would have been set up by a Marinette who realized that the new Butterfly was on the verge of discovering her secret identity, and then I theorized that during Nemesis, based on the only leak we have from that episode, Marinette would use a double of herself to completely eliminate any suspicions from Chrysalis's mind.

But Chrysalis isn't stupid; she knows that Ladybug has Rena Rouge and Argos on her side, so even if she doesn't get the proof she's looking for during the season 6 finale, she'll remain suspicious. But without irrefutable evidence, and even knowing that the power of illusion and emotion can create doubles, doubt lingers—it’s been lingering since the London special. Lila has to be 100% sure. But a Ladybug who has realized that the new Butterfly is on her trail won't be easily trapped. So Chrysalis might be forced to use the joker she was keeping to make more vulnerable the ones she thinks are the same person. Using the truth about Gabriel will inevitably hurt both Ladybug and even Marinette through the impact it will have on Adrien, it will make them emotional and more prone to mistakes, easier to manipulate into potentially revealing themselves.

It doesn't matter if Chrysalis gets the confirmation she's looking for after revealing the truth about Monarch being Gabriel, she can still use that information later to deal a final blow to her enemy.

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guys she not putting her earrings on...

...she is taking them off

This is the video in reverse, and to me this just makes more sense considering what we know.

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THIS .... ! This change a lot of things !

Especially if it's been teased on X with this "If only you knew what happens after this scene"

That scene would still follow the idea of Marinette suspecting that her secret identity might be compromised

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Gloob’s finale spoilers below the cut!

Omfg.

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I believe those shots are from Secret Protocole, given the fact that Nemesis has yet to have a synopsis for now and that the episode has yet to be finished, or is the last who was finished.

Alya's unifying her miraculous with the Ladybug's one can notably suggest one thing : The Ladybug we see in the following image, and dodging pineapple bombs in the trailer, might not be the real Ladybug, but Alya using but Alya using the power of illusion to pretend to be Ladybug while at least having the ability to use the yoyo and the lucky charm thanks to the unification.

That would explain why, while we're used to seeing Carapace always paired with Rena Rouge, and the quartet Ladybug-Chat Noir-Rena Rouge-Carapace featured in three episodes in a row before episode 24, this time only Carapace stands beside Chat Noir and Ladybug without Rena.

but that would raise the question of why It's not as Scarabella that Alya would replace Ladybug, but by directly pretending to be Ladybug, while Cat Noir himself knows that Ladybug has a stand-in in Scarabella if needed. I think the answer is subtly shown in the trailer

During the trailer, Marinette acts like someone who feels watched, spied on, her scared expressions during the trailer could mean that she realized the butterfly is on her trail. Maybe she has already talked to Tikki about her suspicions, figuring out through her deductions in Queen of the Dreazone that the new butterfly was very close, since they knew how to manipulate Sabrina and Chloé. Maybe Marinette even made the connection with the akumatizations in this season, where most of them were either parents of people close to her or people close by. She might even think back to the fact that she herself was directly akumatized right after the plan of the couplewreckers, who were akumatized the same day, worked.

As for this scene where Marinette seems to put her ladybug earings back, after probably having lended them to Alya and having just taken them back, how come she looks so scared ...

compared to that following shot where she still has her ladybug earings in camouflage mode ?

That image might be from right before Marinette lend her earings to Alya, confident in how her plan might protect her secret identity ?

Then something won't go as she planned for her to look so terrified in that gloob teaser in the moment she put her earings back. Maybe realizing that something was taken from her room maybe ?

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Update theories about Secret Protocole and Nemesis (ML S6 Ep.25 & 26)

I once theorized that Secret Protocole would be the episode where the situation would become urgent enough for Ladybug and Argos to agree to employ a strategy that goes against their principles. That of creating a snetimonster in Marinette's image in order to dispel Chrysalis's suspicions

Which seems to indicate that during Secret Protocol, Marinette's secret identity as Ladybug will be seriously put in jeopardy, enough to want to convince the new butterfly that they're on the wrong track.

And while the teaser from Secret Protocole doesn't show much, we still see a Marinette who seems to feel watched, displaying anxious expressions even as she helps her father prepare a cake and when she checks her phone. I had theorized that it might perhaps be related to a situation where Marinette had forgotten to invite Sabine's sister, but if that were the case her expression would have been the classic "Marinette panicking moment," not expressions of fear and dread so poignant.

Perhaps she left a camera in her room linked to her phone, and when checking it she notices the new butterfly or the akuma rummaging through her room. Who knows.

There's also that leaked image of Lila (Iris Verdi/Daphne Azzuri disguise) in Marinette's room. And I've seen on X a teasing that seemed to point out how the akuma in Secret Protocole will have been created solely to discover the secret identity of Ladybug.

All point out to an episode where Chrysalis will get the near confirmation that Marinette and Ladybug are the same person, and Marinette herself who realizes that her secret Identity is once again compromised.

But knowing that Scarabella is still an option, could this situation be urgent enough for Argos to agree to accept to create a human sentimonster ? The only situation where I could see him agreeing is if he has the guarantee that this little sentimonster will live and will not be erased once her mission is accomplished. And I can indeed hardly see Marinette accepting that a human sentimonster would be erased once their mission is completed, when we remember that she was moved by the existence of Sentibug, to whom she restored freedom, and was saddened to see her erased by Mayura.

But that would imply that Argos could never again create a new non-human sentimonster in case of emergency, as he did during Representation in season 5, since a peacock wieldder can create only one sentimonster at a time. So I think it is possible that instead, Felix lends Marinette the Peacock Miraculous so that she can create her double herself.

And if this event that I am theorizing were to happen at the very end of Secret Protocole, that could explain Thomas Astruc's tease : "it's going to rain fanarts." about the episode. I do indeed think that Marinette transformed with the Peacock Miraculous would be good inspiration for fanarts.

What would be the fate of Sentinette then if she were to keep existing ? Probably being named Bridgette and go living with Fu and Marianne in London I hope, or in Shanghai with Fei and Wang

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Just watched the Secret Protocol trailer.

Here's my sepculation(s).

I think in the scene were Marinette looks scared and looks at her phone, Chrysalis/Lila/Cerise basically texted her "I know your Secret." Or something similar to that, and uses it as either black-mail or a threat against Marinette.

Then, I think Chat Noir spotted Chrysalis and chases after her. And then, Chrysalis decides to reveal the truth to him.

And IF the scene where Chat Noir is fighting someone (that we see from their prespective) isn't Chrysalis (or the akuma), then it's most likely Ladybug, because at that point Chrysalis told him the truth, and he's angry at Ladybug (for obvious reasons).

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Also... for some reason we don't see the akuma. And it's throwing pineapple smoke bombs. I seriously have no idea who that could be.

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SPOILER ALERT !

If the short leaked scene we've got from Nemesis (the one with Chat Noir being in Marinette's room with two Marinette while Ladybug wrans him through his catphone that one the Marinette is an illusion, the other is speculated to be a sentimonster) is anything to go by, then it's fortunatelly likely that if this rage we see Chat Noir displaying during the trailer is indeed directed at Ladybug, it will subside enough by the end of the episode for theit partnership to hold on a little longer in the next episode.

Perhaps it could be thanks to Nino/Carapace who (present against the akuma fight in Secret Protocole), although he would be angry that such a truth was hidden from Adrien, would on the other hand understand that lying to all of Paris was necessary to protect Adrien from a very probable hate campaign from Parisians.

I prefer to think that the one Chat Noir is fighting in the trailer is indeed Chrysalis, and that despite his anger towards Ladybug he would not go as far as to attack her, especially since she already confessed during the London special that she was hiding a very big secret from him, and how he saw keeping this secret was causing her distress.

I'm not a fan of the civil war theory, and as legitimate as Chat Noir's anger would be, I still hope that he has become mature enough to understand that for the moment, he and Ladybug must stay united against a common adversary, and that this will not prevent him from encouraging Ladybug to own up to her lies without necessarily demonizing her.

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Who could be the akuma in Secret Protocole (ML S6 Ep. 25)?

So let's recap what the Secret Protocole teaser shows us … and doesn't show us about the akuma attack : We don't see the akuma in person, the only thing we see about them is their power which seems to be about throwing explosive pineapples.

As soon as I saw that, I thought: "Please tells me that's not what Astruc meant by 'atomic bomb' ? XD" And it does seem like a ridiculous power for the penultimate episode of a season, but upon closer inspection, we see that this akuma seems to have caused chaos during Sabine's birthday, in the scene where we see the ruined birthday cake and a very angry Tom seemingly lunging at someone we can't see.

Not only that, but we also see a Chat Noir who appears very very angry during the fight.

Putting these elements together, along with the fact that it's more than likely that Uncle Wang will also be present for Sabine's birthday (along with Fei and Lila who would have managed to convince them to invite her) even though he isn't shown, I thought of a member of Sabine's family we've heard about but never seen in person : her sister Shu Yin.

The few things we know about her is that she lives in London, and that she doesn't seem to have a very pleasant demeanor, as both Marinette and Tom disliked the idea of visiting her in London during Hack-san in season 4.

And if Wang Cheng can go from Shangai to Paris for his niece's birthday, surely Shu Yin who lives closer to France would bother go for Sabine's birtday, since the two sisters are on good enough terms that Sabine wants to visit her in London from time to time.

Then I remember a detail Tom shared about Shu Yin : She hates cakes and anything fun and exciting. It might sounds weird but someone who hates pastries and cakes sounds like they would prefer fruits right ? Could their akumatized form be related to that ?

And suppose I'm wrong and Sabine's sister wasn't actually invited to the party at all, and that's what caused her akumatization ? After all, if she hates anything "fun," Tom and Marinette might have been reluctant to invite her.

Let's go further and imagine that Marinette's scared and stressed expressions during this episode were due to the realization that she had forgotten to invite Sabine's sister.

And in such a situation, it's not impossible that Shu Yin's akumatized form would express hostility and a desire for revenge towards Tom and Marinette, the kind of thing that could make Cat Noir very angry since his girlfriend would be threatened.

Or I might be totally wrong and the akuma of the episode is gonna be Wang Cheng

After all using food as weapon was his thing as Kung Food, and the explosive pinnaples might just be one weapon in his whole arsenal.

And the person attacked by an enraged Chat Noir could be Chrysalis herself, riling him up by stating unpleasant truths about Ladybug and her lies… or by directly insinuating that she's persuaded Marinette and Ladybug are the same person, and threatening to harm her.

There has to be a reason to involve Chat Noir in a plan requiring 2 Marinettes during Nemesis, according to that famous leaked short scene of Nemesis where we see Chat Noir in Marinette's room with two version of her and Ladybug speaking to him throuygh his catphone, making many of us theorize that while Chat would thinks that one is the real Marinette, whereas she would be a sentimonster created by Argos to throw Chrystalis away from her Marinette's track.

[muzzable]

Ok but actually not over Queen of the Dreadzone. You're telling me out of all the potential superpowers for an attention seeker to get it's the power to force people to fear her? She doesn't want everyone to love her and be glad she's back in Paris, she just wants to be dreaded again because it's at least better than dealing with the realization that nobody cares about her anymore? Her victim isn't afraid of her, her sister isn't holding out hope for her anymore, and her underling isn't mourning her, and it turns out even though she's the one that left town she's actually the only one who hasn't moved on? And all of this was just a setup by her family to use her as a tool to get a magic charm from Ladybug, they never even intended to let her stay in Paris because even her mom and brother don't actually care about her? Like what the heck sure let the episode clearly intended to put to rest the idea of developing her any further also be the one that makes me want to see it the most because there's so much here.

[nothingtherefornow]

Presented like that, I really pity Chloé.

I wouldn't mind if she was to come back only to show us that she's doing her own thing without her mother or Noe having a hand in it.

[flutterbuggs]

Marinette gets attacked by the fandom everytimr someone brings up that alot of people know her identity but she tried her best to keep it secret, she told her friend and that was it.

Draft #2

[nothingtherefornow]

Yeah I'm also tired ofthose so called miraculous fans forget that Marinette only ever told Alya and the rest either figured out or were in the right place at the right time.

Also I'm among those who think the secret identity who must be kept above all isn't Ladybug's, it's Chat noir's. Because Marinette already has a plan B in case she were unmasked by the new butterfly and could no longer fulfill her role as guardian.

She has shown herself capable of resisting the mental pressure from Chrysalis while akumatized as Heartfixer, and if the worst should happen she can erase her own memory to protect as much information as possible.

Chat Noir, on the other hand, still has no one who could replace him, and the fact that he is a senti-human and does not know about it makes him more vulnerable against a Chrysalis who knows Adrien's sentimonster nature. And I actually think that the fact that Chrysalis seems to pay the most attention to Ladybug, to the point of forgetting to investigate Chat Noir's secret identity, could one day be a flaw to exploit, but only if Chat Noir's secret remains the best guarded.

[coffeebanana]

Excuse me, let me just...

[nothingtherefornow]

Please let Kagami remain on Ladybug/Marinette's side if the infamous civil theory becomes real !

The truth about Gabriel and Adrien finding out about his father is gonna get out at some point, it's just a matter of time, and we know it's gonna cause turmoil and torment in Adrien and Marinette like nothing ever did before.

And if we don't want the show to end because its main character would have had a full breakdown over the terrible consequences of Paris and Adrien learning the truth, then Kagami is one of the only person that might help Marinette overcome this hardship without completely breaking.

[australet789]

welp, confirmation that Marinette was her punching bag

[nothingtherefornow]

Do we realize how deranged that girl is for being willing to do something so dangerous !

Firing tennis balls at point-blank range with a machine can seriously injure people, even causing concussions if it hits the head. And Sabrina, with her glasses, could even have her eyes gouged out if a ball pierced her lenses. Not to mention that being suspended from head to toe is extremely dangerous, with blood rushing to the brain and potentially causing death if suspended for too long.

If this weren't a cartoonish animated serie where the laws of physics aren't entirely respected, what Chloe intended to do here would be a criminal offense.

Despite their morbid curiosity, it would seem that among Chloe's fans, those who expressed themselves in the live stream with terrified or angry emojis must also have thought Chloe was crazy. The death skull and devil emojis, on the other hand ? Surely people who are like Chloé behind their screens