Saturn's Rings System

#punks-against-endos endos and pro endos dni pls

[punksystemsuporter]

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Punk stuff and anti endo stuff, or just a place to talk about stuff away from endos and their supporters.

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Safe space for anti endo punks and punk systems.

[anzukyuu]

Friendly reminder that endos are not systems, have never been systems, and will never be systems!

If you’re a self proclaimed endo, you are not a system. You do not have a CDD. You can not have a CDD unless you have experienced extreme childhood trauma. If you don’t remember that trauma, you’re not endogenic. Not remembering is one of the biggest parts of the disorder.

“But what about this article that says-“ oh you mean the article written by a scientist who not even OTHER SCIENTISTS respect or care about? Is that the one? Or maybe it’s the one written by a scientist notorious in their community for falsifying results. That article?

Anyway, stop trying to invade trauma survivors’ spaces. Even if you COULD be an endogenic system, that doesn’t give endos the right to come into traumagenic system spaces. We are NOT the same.

[punksystemsuporter]

Hi, sorry if I'm bothering you in any way, but, what are endos? Are they bad people? Are they problematic? What are they doing wrong?

Endos are 'systems' without trauma but trauma is essential in the creation of DID and Osdd systems so there existence is questionable. Some people want spaces away from endos as they can be toxic and harmful towards traumagenic systems. (Systems are when a person has alters from DID or ossd) used to be known as multiple personality disorder. I recommend googling as my knowledge is limited but I hope this helps.

It's explaind much better here if u want to learn more: https://pluralpedia.org/w/Talk:Endogenic

[punksystemsuporter]

Haven't been posting much as health has been shit recently. Not sure when it's gonna get better if ever and it's all just a bit much atm. We are in a lot of pain and are exhausted all of the time as well as depressed so have no motivation to do anything anymore. Hoping to post some more but honestly not sure if we will. Got some more doctors appointments coming up so hoping for some more answers I guess. Anyways hope everyone is doing better than us and has a good day. :)

[punksystemsuporter]

just wanted u 2 know that whatever endos say doesnt mean shit! ur wonderful and valid af and ily /p

-??? (we have no clue who sent this

Thanks so much, this is really appreciated :)

[astrothetherian]

Have a blast with these!!!

1 with a black background

1 with the anti-endo background

1 with the system background

1 with a transparent background

Have a field day and remember, a system is a trauma disorder, it's not smthn made out of the blue with nothing to work from!!!

[punksystemsuporter]

"hi, we are a traumagenic system. I have no hate towards you whatsoever, and I'm neutral on endos. I just want to ask why you hate endos so much? I promise I won't tell you to go die if you answer, I'll respect your answer"

My response:

I only hate endos who actively invade tramagenic spaces, the facts state endos can't exist which I generally agree with but also I can't see in their heads so can't be sure ya know, while I generally lean more anti endo I don't care what they do so long as they leave us and others alone who don't wanna be around them. More outwardly anti endo on this page because of the harassment I received from endos and pro endos here when I asked them to not interact. Some endos are pretty chill but unfortunately a lot of the ones on tumbler are actively recruiting people and spreading misinformation and threatening tramagenic systems. Hope that makes sense.

[punksystemsuporter]

Tw endos saying mean stuff:

Just got told to go die and called a nazi by a endo/pro endo. Seriously can they not read dni's or something cos I asked nicely that you stay away and instead you threaten me.

[saturns-rings-sys]

Octocon is a new app for systems. It's anti endo and made by traumagenic systems. It also has a discord bot that is a lot easier to use than pk in my opinion. You can also sync your app and the bot so you can edit alters in the app. The app is on android already and coming to IOS soon. Hope this helps some people :)

(If you're in a server, I recommend adding this bot as more people are starting to use it instead of pk and tupperbox)

[cloudpeoplesys-deactivated20241]

This! I installed it yesterday and it's an amazing app, way less buggy than SP and with better (but not the best in my opinion) resources.

- F (🎧)

[saturns-rings-sys]

I believe as it's still new they are adding more resources, if you have discord I recommend joining their server and letting them know what resources they could add. Alternatively you could email them the resources.

Discord: https://octocon.app/discord

Email: [email protected]

[saturns-rings-sys]

Octocon is a new app for systems. It's anti endo and made by traumagenic systems. It also has a discord bot that is a lot easier to use than pk in my opinion. You can also sync your app and the bot so you can edit alters in the app. The app is on android already and coming to IOS soon. Hope this helps some people :)

(If you're in a server, I recommend adding this bot as more people are starting to use it instead of pk and tupperbox)

[syscultureis]

Autistic system culture is seeing so much misinformation and feeling like it's your job to correct it all but you don't know how to go about it without coming off as rude or being misinterpreted as having bad intentions and they respond with hostility and don't listen when you try to explain yourself and a protector comes out and responds to their hostility with even more hostility and they start blaming you, claiming that you stated the argument and your protector just came in and started swinging so they don't know what the person is talking about but is pissed that they aren't backing down and 😓

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[endogenic-cringe]

hello. coming from an traumatized anti-endo singlet. endos. listen. you think I don't want someone to talk to me? you think I don't want a favorite character in my head? I would love to always have company, especially when I'm freaking out. but I don't want to be a system. OSDD and DID are terrifying and hard disorders. Wanting people in your head is fine. people want company. pretty normal. but don't claim to be a system. for fucks sake, guys.

^

Especially when systems like me have genuine fears about people in our head killing us or others

[zetasystem]

Can anyone who is anti endo reblog this so we know we can trust you? Endos are harassing us on here, breaking dni and we need support from real systems and people who actually give a shit about trauma survivors singlet or not.

I also wanna take this opportunity to coin a new anti endo tag "wild rose" which is the rebel password in final fantasy 2.

Please note we are not looking for sorce mates. Please be nice to us, we have had a rough couple of days with endos invading our space without permission.

(Please follow this dni too.)

[bloodonvalentine]

sysmed isn't a slur BUT! it is fucking redundant. "system medicalist" okay so every sane human on this planet cool i got it. im schizo and even if cant think of shit like that

[wiresandufos]

HEY in-sys relationships are valid as FUCK and you should never feel bad for them!!! Go get your lover/qpr/etc!!! Hell yeah!!!

[pixelated-poison-deactivated202]

endos are calling anti-endos "sysmeds" for... "medicalizing" (i think thats the right word) a medical disorder...?

people are... unhinged. wow.

-- shinso (he/they)

[starstuff-sys]

Anti-Endo System Terms

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These terms were made to provide a good alternative to fictive/factive without the clunky-ness of -roject terms.

Ectite - An alter who is not a brainmade

Fictite - An alter whos source is from fiction

Factite - An alter whos source is from real life

Foctite - An alter whos source is both from real life and from fiction

Hymtite - An alter whos source is from a song

Vocite - An alter whos source is a singer/songwriter or the personification of a band

Anitite - An alter whos source is an animal whos species has existed on planet earth

Exite - An alter whos source is of a being that is " other worldly ". This can include aliens, spiritual beings, ghosts, etc

Plutite - An alter whos source is from a stuffed animal

Persite - An alter whos source is someones persona ( could be the systems or someone elses. made with youtuber personas in mind )

Sihtite - An alter whos source is of a pre-existing alter

Duoite - An alter whos source is a group of people mushed into one being ( similar to the second definition of vocite, but not exclusive to bands )

ANTI ENDO SYSTEMS REBLOG!!

[Plain text: ANTI ENDO SYSTEMS REBLOG!!]