didn’t want to derail from oomf’s awesome post, so i made a separate one— but (puts on nerd glasses) i really hate when people say the knives out franchise takes Too Many Shots at conservatives/that it’s Too Political and should Focus On The Murder. i don’t think a lot of people realise that 90% of golden-age murder mysteries are actually never about the murder.
the murder acts as a vessel by which to deliver some kind of political commentary or moral message to the audience— largely stuff like, “government corruption is bad”, “be nice to marginalised people”, “the legal system sucks”, and so on. for obvious reasons, a lot of these messages in the 18-1900s focused on classism, financial abuse, and corruption in high society— which is why we HAVE the modern murder-mystery stereotype of A Bunch Of Rich People In A Big Mansion House Killing For Money. even in terms of detectives, there has always been political commentary— poirot and marple specifically are always dismissed by others on account of them being foreign and old respectively, and holmes and watson meet in the first place because they’re both poor and the latter was WIA. this stuff gets played for laughs a lot in modern adaptations, but it’s actually a big part of their personalities and the stories the authors are trying to tell.
murder mysteries have ALWAYS reflected the modern political climate, because they have always had to answer the question “in this day and age, what would people kill for?”. some constants remain— money, love, etc.— but a lot of the environmental context changes with age. good modern mysteries recognise this; i’m sure the killers in the thursday murder club, for example, would not be given half as much mercy in the 1900s as they are by modern viewers— and yet in today’s world, where we can recognise their pain as something that exists within the context of modern society and its disregard towards the vulnerable, WE, the audience, feel that their actions are justified and that they should be allowed to remain above the law.
it’s why a lot of contemporary hollywood mysteries don’t work. so many modern authors try to return to “the good old days” by copying the 1900s formula— tossing a ton of rich people in a house and saying something vague about money— without realising that the appeal has always come from the tackling of real, relatable issues, and in justice for those who deserve it. it’s the reason why murder on the orient express, widely considered one of the greatest mystery stories of all time, HAS to end the way it does— because having it end any other way would completely undermine everything the story is trying to say about the legal system. in a similar way, there’s a reason why knives out CAN’T end with fran surviving/ransom getting away with it, why glass onion CAN’T end with miles being arrested normally, and why wake up dead man CAN’T end without jud taking martha’s confession— because those endings miss what the films are trying to say about the very real modern issues at the centre of them.
sorry for how ranty this was— what i’m trying to say is that the knives out films’ focus on “wokeism” and their insistence on taking shots at right-wing radicalism, political corruption, etc. is what makes them good films, because good contemporary murder mysteries are inherently reflective of modern society, and those things are increasingly prevalent within modern society. murder mysteries are political; they have ALWAYS BEEN political. THE WOKENESS IS THE POINT OF THE MEDIUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🙏🙏🙏‼️‼️‼️
Do you know why they call Luke moosey or do they call him rusty?
~new to the fandom do i make ask a few questions~
Hello, lovely. I fear my knowledge on the other Hugheses are smaller than what I know about Quinny. But i did a bit of research 🫡
First, Rusty. So he was called Rusty from a character (Rusty Ryan) in Oceans 11 because that character eats a lot or eating every scene. Quinn mentioned/explained it in his Going Home video:
From NHL.COM article "The Right Fit", they also referenced that and gave us a specific postgame where Luke got caught in his post snacking for an interview 😆🤣 and Curtis Lazar calling him Rusty in this YT video (and/or from tiktok). Small clips of those:
Next, Moose. I honestly couldn't find anything about this. I think it is a nickname given to him by his brothers. Other than a clip (from a IG story) in a TikTok edit. Their "Alvin and the Chipmunk" coded basketball day 😆
Anyway, Moosey is a fitting nickname for big guys like Lukey. He is HUGE. 🫣😏😶🌫️
His brothers clearly call him Dukes too. A few mentions were mentioned in one Quinny's congratulating and birthday for Luke (1, 2):
Their interactions lmao.
Anyway, i wanna mention a fan nickname: Snoopy Hughes coz he looks so Snoopy coded (from Twitter/X but you'll see more in the app + TikTok). I support that Snoopy Hughes agenda. 🙂↕️🙂↕️🙂↕️
Anyway, that's all I know. I'm sure there are more lores 😔
beedee beedee beedee, it’s my first time writing for this, buck! :))
kind of pivoting away from doing just one fandom, and i thought that this was a good place to start (i love this dude).
cws/tws: brief mentions of bullying/exclusion, general eltingville club weirdness
stuff underneath the cut!! vv
Starting off with a weird one (I was genuinely torn over this for a long time), I think that Jerry is the richest member of the club (D&D stuff is mad expensive, even the ‘cheaper’ stuff). Josh is a very close second, though. (Also, what not-rich person has the middle name 'Titus'?? Like, come on.)
His parents are probably big people in idk commerce or something, given they're away pretty often on business trips and the like.
I also think that Jerry is the most well-read member. He's had his nose stuck in large, thick fantasy books since he gained the ability to comprehend words (#my hyperlexic twin). He had nothing else to do most of the time, since his parents were (and still are) always busy, and he had next to no friends before the Eltingville Club.
Jerry’s grades are quite good; his parents make sure of that, but his best subject is most definitely English. The large vocabulary he has gained from reading all of those books really paid off, and his comprehension and ability to deconstruct themes are incredible because he's had to break down whole systems into simple terms.
He has a few bookshelves that are completely stacked with books, manuals (some of which he has written himself) with rules and explanations, and a few journals with story lines, character sheets, and world building for the club's roleplays that he updates frequently.
To Jerry, being the club's dungeon master is like a full-time job. You should see the sheer amount of effort he puts into it, how much money he spends at the copy shop printing off character sheets, and the sheer amount of hours spent awake trying to figure out the next big twist or villain his friends might face.
Before you ask, yes, Jerry does voice-act everything. And I mean everything (except the women characters. He feels that would be weird, especially if they’re supposed to be hot or romanceable.)
His vocal range is… okay. He's not Frank Welker or anything remotely similar, but you can tell the different characters apart most of the time. He thinks he does a very good villain voice, and the monologues and evil laughs are some of his favourite things to do. His narrator voice is just his regular, nasally timbre, although with a more dramatic edge (he wants to sound cool so bad, wouldn't have it any other way).
This is another weird one, but I like to think that Jerry sneak-disses his friends in the characters’ dialogue (especially if he's annoyed or mad with them). He makes the villains call them names or insult their appearances. Nobody really catches on, but Jerry knows what he's doing. He thinks it's really funny.
Jerry rarely plays the actual game of D&D himself; he prefers to be the dungeon master because he likes having control over the narrative and characters that he created.
However, there has been the odd oneshot where he let someone else be the dungeon master for once (I can't decide whether it would be Josh or Pete, but I'm leaning more towards Josh because it's more realistic, but Pete would be pretty funny, I think. Bill is banned from being dungeon master, sorry.)
When Jerry isn't the dungeon master, he usually roleplays as a wizard or some other kind of magical being (usually an elf).
He loves magic systems. He spends a lot of time planning and figuring out the spells and applications of magic in his worlds, fleshing them out with sometimes a little too much information.
As much as Josh hates to acknowledge it, Jerry is the writer of the group. And the illustrator, and the narrator.
Jerry has written a decent portion of their letters to companies (all under assumed names, of course), and sometimes helps the other members with theirs.
BUT! I do also think that Josh and Jerry collaborate on plots sometimes. If Jerry is super stuck on something (like a transition or side character), his first instinct (well, actually his second instinct, he usually goes on the internet first, but he would never tell Josh that) is to call up Josh and talk it through with him.
Josh has actually contributed to a lot of Jerry's world-building. They figure out the technology and government systems of the world together.
Okay, I'm being weird again (but all of them are weird AF, so it doesn't matter), but Jerry may or may not base some of his female characters off of girls he finds pretty from school or from around town. He only really copies their appearances, not their personality or anything (because he doesn't interact with them/know them personally), but still, it's kind of obvious sometimes.
Jerry usually gets Pete's opinion on these female characters. He shows him the character sheet of one and is like, ‘Do you think she's hot?’ and Pete's like, ‘Yes.’
This is because he finds Pete's taste in women to be the most ‘normal’ (in comparison to whatever Josh and Bill are into anyway).
Jerry does not involve Bill in his creative process whatsoever. Bill constantly tries to change what Jerry has planned; he calls it stupid or unfair (usually both) and is just an outright dick about the whole thing. At least Josh lays off when Jerry tells him that the thing he suggested won't work; Bill just keeps pushing it.
Anyway, moving on from Bill's radioactive negativity, Jerry also enjoys drawing from time to time. He usually just draws world maps, diagrams, and character icons, but they're all actually pretty decent.
100% the type of person to draw or write stuff while in class. He has his school notebook on one side and his personal one on the other, and goes between them.
Jerry got a lot of his other interests from his friends. A lot of the shows he likes to watch (Star Trek, The Twilight Zone, etc) were recommended by other members.
Throwing Joe in here because why not, but I think Joe likes Jerry the best out of all of the members. Well, he doesn't like him; he just finds him the least annoying (and the easiest to rip off).
Has Joe charged Jerry a ‘slightly’ higher price for something because he knows that Jerry is too anxious and awkward to argue or haggle with him? Yeah. Of course he has.
Because of this, Jerry often makes stuff for D&D himself. He often makes little figurines out of clay and paints them. Some of these have gotten broken during the club's various arguments, so they look a little bit… wonky (Jerry tried to glue them back together and fix them).
I think that Pete and Jerry work on their models for stuff together. Pete works on his resin kits, while Jerry moulds his newest wizard or shopkeeper.
Out of all of the members, Jerry is the most friendly with Pete. They hang out by themselves pretty often, they go to movies that Bill and Josh don't want to see, play video games together, and do other stuff like that.
Jerry's ‘beedee beedee beedee’ vocal tic comes from Twiki from Buck Squad; everyone knows that. But the reason why he has it is that he kind of relates to Twiki in a way.
Jerry has felt inhuman for a significant portion of his life, being ignored and bullied at school does that to a person, and the fact that Twiki is cared for and beloved by the cast and fans, despite him being a robot, makes Jerry feel like he's not a complete weirdo and that he deserves at least a little bit of grace for his quirks.
He relates to the fact that Twiki does a lot of labour, while Jerry's labour isn't really physical; he feels like a lot of his efforts are underappreciated or even ignored by the group. He wishes that they would acknowledge his efforts more, give him constructive criticism on his stories, or even some praise.
He also says the ‘beedee beedee beedee’ line just to be funny or lighten the mood. In fact, that's what it started as, a joke! He just said it so often it became a part of his vernacular, where it has stayed ever since.
The line just gives him a great sense of comfort in general. It's like a self-soothing mechanism, he says it when experiencing strong emotions (both good and bad, but usually bad) because it brings his mind back to Twiki, and thinking about characters and stuff he likes calms him down (or in more positive situations, makes him even happier or more excited). (Literally me).
xB and Cleo gettin silly, talking magic water, buying the hermits for pennies, and their love-hate (or is it hate-hate) relationship with Keralis
Cleo: (smacks their lips together) I mean, knowing you, you'll just build a river on the other side?
xB: No, cause then there's a Hypno there.
Cleo: Well maybe over there then. (gestures to the side of his base where a pipe empties into a lake) That-that water's got to come from somewhere, right?
xB: Mm, uh, magic.
Cleo: No no, that's Ren's shtick--
xB: It's magic water.
Cleo: --that's not your-that's not your shtick this season--
xB: I borrowed it, I was like--
Cleo: You're FedxB, Ren is-Ren's shtick is the magic shtick.
xB: I asked him-no, it's--
Cleo: Different--
xB: I-I was like, Ren, can I borrow some of your magic, for magic water? And he's like-y'know Ren. 'He's like, yeah, go for it.' So.
Cleo: ...and if I ask him about this--
xB: Oh yeah--
Cleo: he's going to go, 'yeah yeah, I know what he's talking about.'
xB: --psh, totally, totally, yeah. Just don't ask him, till like. (Cleo starts giggling) Y'know, like. Wait a couple days. And then ask him.
Cleo: Chat says-chat says, "sounds like xB has the same problem as Cleo has with Ren," (keeps laughing)
xB: You know, just--
Cleo: I feel like that's accurate.
xB: --just, just, give time, he's-he's got a process it, fully. You know Ren, like that-y'know. He's got a-yeah.
Cleo: Yeah. He's-he. Yeah, he does have a process.
xB: Right.
Cleo: To be sure.
xB: See? So I totally-that totally happened, and, uh. The fact that you even questioned it--
Cleo: Uh huh, it totally happened.
xB: --hurts my feelings.
Cleo: Uh, good. (xB begins giggling) I'm not here to spare your feelings. (Cleo laughs as well)
xB: But you're like the nicest person ever, Cleo!
Cleo: Stop it! Don't be mean.
xB: To me. (three seconds of silence)
Cleo: That's not even helpful. (Cleo laughs)
xB: It helps!
Cleo: Don't say that, don't say that, no. People will start believing it--
xB: Okay, you're like the eighth nicest person to me. How about that?
Cleo: No, because people will start believing it. And I don't want that to happen.
xB: I know like eight people! (he giggles) So like.
Cleo: There's twenty-five of us on this server, xB!
xB: Yeahhhhh, I don't know them.
Cleo: (coughs) Sorry. You made me-I was drinking.
xB: I'm pretty sure there's eight people on this server. So.
Cleo: There really isn't.
xB: Oh, I'm pretty sure--
Cleo: There really is twenty-five of us here. (Cleo laughs) And it feels like--
xB: There's only seven, currently. So, like. If they're not--
Cleo: Yeah. But it does feel like-I have to say, I have to say, it does genuinely feel like...um....the server is very bare, sometimes?
xB: Yes.
Cleo: And it's just like, I know we're all crammed together, and I think it's cause I know everyone that it just feels like, 'no, there's only a few of us here.' No no no, there's-there's-there's-there's a quarter of a hundred of us. (xB begins giggling)
xB: (echoing) A quarter of a hundred. That's-that's a way to put it.
Cleo: Quarter of a hundred. It-it is. It's the correct way to put it.
xB: There's twenty-five cents worth of Hermits on this server.
Cleo: Oh, I wasn't applying value judgements to the Hermits--
xB: I mean. I'm just saying.
Cleo: --I'm not going to pay twenty-five cents for any of these Hermits--
xB: Well, no, you'd be paying a penny each.
Cleo: --Let alone one cent.
xB: Yeah. You wouldn't pay a penny for me?
Cleo: Penny per dozen? (realizing what xB said) Ehhh, I don't know, you've been very nice to me, so. Yeah, probably, I would pay a penny for you.
xB: Okay.
Cleo: But not for like-like, Keralis? Though?
xB: Oh, no, no--
Cleo: You want me to pay a penny for Keralis. Right?
xB: No, he'd have to pay you. Yeah. No, I-yeah.
Cleo: To take him away?
xB: To take him, yeah.
Cleo: Yeah, okay.
xB: Or to (Cleo laughs) or for-he pay me for him to stay away from me. Yeah. That works.
Cleo: Right (begins laughing through their words) okay--does Keralis--?
xB: (laughs as well) Pay me for the right to stay away from me.
Cleo: You and Keralis couldn't stay away from each other if you tried.
xB: I mean, it depends, is he on vacation?
Cleo: When isn't he on vacation?
xB: I-(sighs) that's. Good question. Yeah. (Cleo laughs, xB joins in) It's quite often, actually. Must be nice, y'know? Like just-always be on vacation.
Cleo: You know what, it must be, he's-it's just like, every so often he's just sorta like, 'yeah, I'm not going to be here for a couple of months.' And I'm always like, 'what? Okay,'
xB: Yeah! And-and then he like, he drops a bomb the other day, we're hanging out, he just got back, and he's like, 'yeah, I already scheduled another.' And I'm like, "you. Suck." (xB giggles)
Cleo: He does suck, doesn't he?
xB: He sucks so much!
Cleo: He does suck! (xB giggles, as Cleo groans in dismay)
xB: Like, being all--
Cleo: And he's got like, this cool outfit, as-and ]this cool, like, stuff, and it's just like. 'no, I'm taking it away.' For weeks at a time!
xB: Right?
Cleo: Weeks!
xB: (sighing) That guy. I hate him.
Cleo: That guy.
xB: I mean I don't. But I do. (xB giggles)
Cleo: We can hate as friends.
xB: Yeah! It's-it's a love-hate. I love to hate him-
Cleo: No, it's just a hate-hate.
xB: --I love to hate him and hate to love him.
Cleo: Something like that (Cleo laughs)
xB: Yeah.
January 31, 1995:
DA: So you bailed on your Ph.D. - a.b.d [all but dissertation]. When did you decided to act?
DD: You ask that like you'd ask a serial killer, "When did you first think you wanted to kill people?" Like, "When did you decide to inflict this misery upon the world, David?" [Laughs.] When I was 27 or 26. I was in grad school. My sister is in NYU graduate school. She's getting her Master's in Education, but she also teaches so it's going to be a long process.
March 1995:
PG: Did you keep any clothes?
DD: I borrowed a lot of clip-on earrings from a friend of mine and don't know if I ever returned them to her.
PG: I bet you look lovely in them.
DD: I look horrible. I was an unattractive woman, but I had nice legs. My sister was jealous of my legs.
October 9, 1995:
Duchovny's sister Laurie, 28, a teacher at a private school in Brooklyn, doesn't think her big brother has changed that much. "The fame rolls off him," she says with a laugh. "He's still a horrible dresser."
May 19, 1997:
The only [wedding] guests were a half dozen family members: Leoni's parents, Anthony Pant[a]leoni, a corporate attorney, and wife Emily, a nutritionist, along with the bride's brother Tom, who runs an antiques mall in Ojai, Calif.; and Duchovny's mother (now divorced from his father, Amram, a playwright and retired publicist living in Paris), his sister Laurie, a teacher in Brooklyn, and brother Danny, a commercial director, who served as best man. A friend of Duchovny's sister, Episcopal minister Craig Townsend, presided at the ceremony.
May 1997:
Duchovny thinks it over for a few minutes. "I think teaching college is a very important job, yes, but these kids at Yale were already better educated than most people in the world when they got there. I think the real heroic teachers are the ones who work with kids, like my mom and my sister do."
July 1998:
Q: Who are the three people in your life you know you can trust?
DD: My wife, my sister and my manager.
April 10, 2005:
DD: Du-chuv-ny, Du-shove-ney, my father, I think, got tired of being called Duchoveeni, Du-shove-ney, Duke-o-vich, Dutch Oven, whatever. (Laughter) And he took the "H" out but he never did it legally. And then when my parents divorced, my mother as a kind of ... (makes a "stick it" gesture with his arm and hand) .... you know, put it back in. (Laughter)
JL: Really?
DD: Yeah. So I put it back in. My brother who was older and kind of siding with my dad left it out, and my sister you know was kind of on a Monday, Wednesday, Friday.
July 3, 2015:
Q: You’re looking so great. What is your secret?
DD: People tell me I look young. I guess I do take care of myself, but it must be just genes, there’s no special secret. My sister who’s 46 still gets carded (asked to show her driver’s license).
August 6, 2024:
"My mom was a great teacher; and a champion of the kids who had trouble, a champion of the kids who didn't fit right away. Bless her, y'know. And I think, as I've said, I walk around the village now and people come up to me and they say, 'Hey, your mom taught me; hey, your mom taught my mother; hey, your mom taught my daughter, my son.' And it's very fulfilling to me. And my sister's also a wonderful teacher....
"So, what happens when you're firmly ensconced in the, the 'toxic patriarchy' of a family? How do you get out? Y'know, and this goes for not just women, but for men, too. Obviously. And that's where you get the other cliche: it can take a village-- it can take a teacher, like my mom, like my sister-- it can take a mentor."
September 5, 2025:
DD: [Speaking of Amram Duchovny's book Coney Island] There's his daughter and his agent, right there! ...My dad, he always said he was a writer; and then, yeah. He did it. He did it. And when he went... on his book tour, something happened. Something big... was happening in the culture that was making small crowds for his reading. And bless him, he like... soldiered on. And he gave a reading at Brentwood, uh, bookstore. And I don't know if you were there, Laurie, but-- I think it was just me and Danny in the audience. Were you there, too? [Pause.] Yeah, it was just me and Dan.
DD: [Speaking of his ancestry] Uh I found out-- and I don't know, Laurie, if you know this-- but I found out that my grandfather wrote on a deadline for the Yiddish newspaper here in the city. And... he was like a Yiddish Charles Dickens, apparently. But we don't have any of his work because it was just in the paper.
BONUS
2016 Fan account of David and Laurie at A Streetcar Named Desire.
like, look at it, it's cool, right ? he's punching through concrete, wow !! it's an amazing show of the agents' strength and an epic special effect
and clearly someone agrees bc they made fucking merch of it !! ↴
but.
but...
what no one ever seems to point out, or even really realise, is that for all the coolness of that shot, right, all the spectacle of even being able to punch through concrete...
that wasn't what smith was aiming for. he was aiming for neo..
and he missed.
twice.
superpowered, faster-than-fast agent, that he is, and he fucking missed. wow <3
i love that for him. i love that this epic fail of a move was highlighted with a slow-motion effect and then preserved in resin. i love that directly after this, neo kicks him about four times, ending with a swivel kick to the face, and breaks his glasses. i love that his life goes so completely downhill until it's very literally underground as he stands in a crater of his own making and dies, unmourned, in a blinding blaze of contempt !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
kessdoan details from doaner's 32 thoughts interview
trade timeline: lutzi texted josh that jj was going to utah, then kess called josh while he was having dinner ("i think we're getting traded" "what are you talking about, 'we're getting traded'??" "well, my agent's saying we're getting traded") and they dug around online before it was confirmed
3 years, 3 different locations, all together :')
socks and ranger stay upstairs mostly, but hank roams around free now that he's mellowed out of his puppy phase
they always end the day watching hockey together with hank on the couch
they play a lot of sports on off days (golf, football, basketball--josh calls kess a sports nerd)
elliotte asked what kess's nfl team was and josh GROANED before he said kess is a pats fan LMAOOOO ("it's awful right now, and he'll argue with us all day")
josh does NOT want the pats to win
non-kessdoan details under the cut:
doaner related:
calls his dad his old man
likes chatting on the bench, considers himself one of the louder guys that drives the positive bench energy
considers bo (calls him bysy :) ) a surprisingly entertaining personality
tage's "big boy pants" bit comes from josh's (and his dad's) pants size (josh clarifies that tage's pants are much bigger than his)
josh gets chirped for everything 😭
he's experimented with a few of the guys' sticks; after he scored on tage's, tage egged him to keep using it but the flex is too stiff for him
likes a bigger, flatter stick curve with 80 flex (cuts it down a little)
josh was late to his debut game because of traffic
credits his puck battle/forechecking skills to growing up undersized/being a late bloomer and learning how to play without sheer strength at first (also says matty knies was undersized lol) (fun fact: kess was also a late bloomer!)
only one out of his siblings to play hockey (older sister figure skated for a bit, younger sister quit pretty quickly, younger brother is in computer science and hates hockey)
grew up on a ranch in arizona (with horses!), ranch was sold but family still has the horses, and his grandparents have a ranch in alberta
josh is better than the average person at riding horses, but doesn't consider himself good at it
he printed his extension contract out at his hotel in montreal
jarmo and josh were golf partners during pre-season team bonding retreat
not doan or kessdoan related:
clouder and quinner are really close!
all the sabres guys who get new deals will host a team dinner during the offseason
krebsy and bo are the loudest and bring the most energy to the locker room; if sammy thinks of a good joke, he will tell it over and over again until everyone's heard
tage uses 95 flex, cuts it down quite a bit
lindy is a fairly loose coach, not super strict on rules
