#aspec representation

[aro-ace-culture-is]

Aroace culture is ‘This show/book/game has great aroace rep!’ And it’s NEVER THE MAIN CHARACTER.

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[sonictacocat]

What we currently have:

Squish - a platonic interest/attraction to another person

Crush - a (romantic) interest/attraction to another person

I would like to propose:

Crunch - a sexual interest/attraction to another person

(Let me know if this already exists)

Edit: Apparently it does exist, it is called a "squash".

[edgeofgreatness]

the worst part of the ongoing yelena discourse is people acting like this is the same as every other shipping discouse

i DONT CARE who you ship with whom

but when you purposefully and consciously erase the little aspec representation that exists you are doing something harmful and not “just having fun”

[ryuujirawrz]

the duality of trying to explain that some relationships in fictional media can and should be interpreted as platonic because friends/family CAN IN FACT be very close and affectionate without it having some romantic context behind it and that we shouldn’t take away from ace and aro representation by using ‘oh but aces/aros can still be in relationships!’ As a simple excuse to ship them

AND

trying to explain that some characters have heavily queer-coded/romance-coded relationships that may have not become canon, but are quite obviously there if you pay attention and that some explicit relationship definition (especially for queer relationships) might be replaced by using best friend/family terminology because of censorship.

[octever]

Come look at our aspec rep in major media!

Aroace

Aroace

Ace

Aroace

Ace

Ace

Ace

Aroace...

[aro-ace-chaos]

There's no such thing as "bad aspec rep"

Well, there is, but the bar to call a single character in isolation bad aspec representation is extremely high. They would have to explicitly look into the camera and say something like: "I am evil and a bad person because being aspec is inherently evil and bad" in full sincerity and with no trace of internalized aphobia and the narrative treat this as if it were correct. And that's something I've never seen.

Because otherwise, even if you don't personally relate to the way a character is portrayed in that media, someone does. And whoever does relate to that character deserves to feel seen and represented.

Obviously, metatextual conversations of how characters who are aspec are treated and discussed outside the media can and should be had. But one thing that should never be said is "The way the character is shown in the original media in isolation is inherently bad."

I don't care if you think they're a stereotype.

I don't care if you think they are a bad person.

I don't care if you think they are heartless.

I. Don't. Care.

The issue with aspec representation in media is not a burden to bear for any individual character. If you treat every character as needing to represent the entire spectrum, they will always, always fail. This is a much larger issue that can only be solved by there being more, varied aspec representation in general. And bashing creators for "bad representation" just because it doesn't reflect your personal experience only scares people away from trying to handle aspec identities. If you want a certain type of aspec representation, create it! And encourage others to do the same. Don't harass people for representing another part of the aspec just because it's not yours!

I'm going to use Alastor from Hazbin Hotel as an example, as well as Mammon from Helluva Boss, because this is a universe with three different canonically asexual characters, and the two whose identities we know anything about are treated very differently, both in the show and by the audience. (Via we don't know much about her identity, so I won't be discussing her as much).

Alastor is a coded as a touch-averse, romance-averse, and sex-averse, nonpartnering, bold-stripe aroace. Mammon is coded as a sex-favorable alloace or a sex-favorable and romance-favorable aroace. Those are two very different types of aspecs, which is great! We need more media that acknowledges different types of aspecs.

And yet, Alastor constantly falls under fire for being "bad rep." Why? Well, I've seen him called heartless, emotionless, robotic, and a stereotype. Specifically because he is coded as a touch-averse, romance-averse, and sex-averse nonpartnering, bold-stripe aroace. Um, guys, people who are actually like that exist. I'm one of them (I'm not touch-averse and sometimes I feel more like I'm rose-repulsed than averse, but I might be okay with a QPR someday with my best friend) but I feel incredibly seen and represented by Alastor.

It's fine if you don't, but instead of calling him bad rep and catching people in the crossfire, maybe critique how the meta and the fandom treat him, rather than how he is in the show itself? Maybe don't imply that bold-stripe aroaces are heartless or robotic? Maybe don't call nonpartnering aspecs emotionless or a "bad stereotype".

And if you want a sex-favorable ace character, there is already one in the same universe! Now, of course, you can play around in the sandbox of fanon a good bit, but I'm exhausted of people calling Alastor bad representation in the source material when I have never felt more represented by a character before. He's not just aroace-coded, there's a lot of things about him that are femme-coded or autistic-coded (like his smile), and that's really awesome! Also, he has a lot more emotional depth than people like to pretend. He's not some flat, evil caricature, and the fact that so many people call him that while critiquing his portrayal as an (aro)ace character rings some alarm bells for me.

Again, you can critique how a character is treated by creators and fandom without just blanketly calling the character bad representation. Whether or not it represents you, it represents someone, and that someone deserves representation as well. We need more and varied aspec representation, and the only way to get that is to celebrate aspec characters instead of constantly bashing them.

Edit: "rose" simply means "romance + sex". When i say I am "rose averse" it means that I am both romance averse and sex averse. "Bold stripe" refers to an aroace who experiences absolutely 0 romantic or sexual attraction.

[the-great-kraken]

if you see a male character kiss a male character, you assume they are gay.

if you see a female character kiss a female character, you assume they are a lesbian.

if you hear a character say they don't feel like their gender, you assume they are trans.

so why do a-spec characters have to jump through so many loops?

a character saying they've never had a crush or don't want a relationship or that they don't understand romantic love is so often ignored or used as fodder for other queer or autistic headcanons (reinforcing stereotypes that aroace people are secretly gay or always autistic)

why is it that our stories are always "up to interpretation"? why do we have to wait for the words aromantic or asexual to be said to be taken seriously? why is it that even when characters say they don't want relationships, fans will scream and cry about sex/romance favourable aspecs and qprs?

when it comes to gay and trans characters, even the likes of bisexual lighting is often treated as though it canonises their sexuality. for aroace characters, even the most explicit coding possible is swept under the rug in favour of other "interpretations"

i'm so tired of fighting for representation just to have it ignored and minimised by fans. let characters be aroace. please.

[neversaymayday]

I CANT DO THIS ANYMORE I LOVE THEM SM