#bad sequels

[awesometrollingman10]

Actually, the Megamind sequel should have been about Megamind becoming a science teacher at his "Shool," and trying to stop Metro Man's cousin (a parody of Supergirl) from becoming a supervillain.

[crazgreenenvy]

Therapist: CG Don Cheadle isn't real and he cannot hurt you

CG Don Cheadle:

[retrorevelations]

Since the new MK movie is the hot topic of the moment, and since it's "Flashback Friday", I may as well share this "Unnecessary Sequels" piece I wrote. It details both my love and connection to the original 1995 Mortal Kombat movie, as well as how its sequel, Annihilation, was one of my single biggest theatrical disappointments. But the first movie is still bad ass after all these years! http://retrorevelations.blogspot.com/2013/07/movies-which-never-should-have-had.html

[boycottyashahime]

I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with next gen sequels, even if they're a cash grab. As long as they're like. Good. And well made. Also if they don't rely on nostalgia and whatnot. For next gen sequels in my opinion the new protags should be unrelated to characters from their prequel, but it isn't the end of the world if one (1) of them is the child or descendant of a protagonist of the og story. Like reusing a setting to make a new story and introduce new characters can be super cool! Hell yeah let's make use of a setting that could be explored much more! The problem with yashahime is that it is a cash grab and so far it seems to be reusing the story of inuyasha. The second problem is that our protagonists are all children of previous characters. I think if Towa and Setsuna were half demon children of entirely new characters that would be cool! Make a new cast! Moroha can stay bc she's cute and like she actually could add to the story with her heritage and like previous characters can cameo but the show should be taking the setting and making a new cast!

technically yashahime doesn't need to exist anyway but like in a better world it wouldn't be Bad. And also definitely wouldn't feature child grooming lmao

I suppose it's technically true that a next-gen sequel can be well-made and not rely on cheap nostalgia and the exploitation of the fanbase's feelings for the original characters. But, in practice, the most expedient, cost and time-effective way to do them is by rushing out a poorly-plotted mess of a story that features minimally characterized children of the mains for an easy transfer of affection from the originals to the new. Yes, in a better world, a sequel to Inuyasha would be made in the fashion you describe.

But this isn't a better world. This is a capitalist world in which studios make knock-offs of their most profitable properties not to please fans or because they had a story to tell, but to make more money as cheaply and easily as possible. That is the sole purpose of a company making anything under capitalism. All of their decisions are a confused mess of ideas they think will generate the most profit, and it shows in this sequel. If we lived in a world where money wasn't the sole motivator driving the creation of these things, I think they WOULD be better, but as it stands? It's all about squeezing more cash from the people who love the original and haven't yet figured out that more content isn't necessarily better.

I'll add one more thing: I think, for an Inuyasha story to take better advantage of the setting, as you mentioned, there would have to be a LOT more development than currently exists for it. Even RT didn't bother to explore her setting beyond "spooky time and place where anything could have happened because they didn't keep many reliable records". She didn't even depict the changing of SEASONS in the Sengoku period except once during an arc toward the very beginning of the manga. So, anyone wanting to take full advantage of her setting would need to do the work she never did and flesh that WAY out.

[mrtelevoid]

Terminator: Dark Fate isn’t a terrible movie. Of the attempts to recapture Judgement Day glory in the Terminator franchise, this is easily the most watchable. The new cast is charming, the new Terminator designs feel like something of a Lovecraftian evolution from from the classic T1000 design, and the filmmakers make a sincere attempt to shift the frachise’s focus away from the John and Sarah Conner.  All the Terminator movies are fun for those who enjoy weed + big budget science fiction extravaganzas, but Dark Fate gave me the most of the old time Cameron vibes we’re all chasing.

Unfortunately, it’s still not very good. It’s failure is the same as in all the other sequels. They’re not creating a new story or expanding the universe. They’re looking for new ways to tell the same time traveling robot story over and over again. I may have had a better time with this one than with Genisys or Salvation, but it still left me thinking the same thing they all do. It shouldn’t be hard to make a good Terminator movie.

Spoilers after the cut...

Undeniably, Dark Fate’s darkest fuck-up was the killing of John Connor by a T-Arnold who hadn’t heard of Skynet’s destruction. Humanity’s much-hyped savior is cruelly brushed aside early in the film like he’s a scream queen whose star had gotten too big for the sequel. It the kind of cheap trope which ultimately makes the final product feel cheap. Something you’d hope this franchise would be above, but your expectations may be too high considering this entry’s subtitle.

Regardless, John Connor’s dark fate essentially takes the piss out of everything, right off the bat. A shocking moment which adds nothing to the story, and sabotages what they got right. Neither charming performances from Gabriel Luna, Mackenzie Davis and Natalia Reyes or the dual nostalgia bomb of Schwarzenegger and Linda Hamilton back is enough to wash the bad taste of a dead kid away. Which is too bad. Dark Fate really feels like an early draft of a great Terminator movie. Establishing that Connor isn’t the savior of this new apocalypse is smart, but they should have found a less jarring way to shift the focus.

Here’s how I would have done it: Show us a John Connor who grew up in a world without Skynet. Maybe he made peace with the reality he wasn’t going to be a military leader, even while his mom never stopped apocalypse prepping. John settled down with a family in the suburbs and got fat + happy. His relationship with Sarah is strained, but he’s trying because he knows what she’s been through. Open on a non CGI’d Eddie Furlong playing John as a fortysomething schlub inviting his mom to a family gathering.  His son or daughter happens to be dating this nice girl named Dani. When the gathering is interrupted by a Rev-9 and a cyborg from the future named Grace saves them, everyone is shocked to discover Dani is actually the target of the future’s wrath this time. John could even die at this point, perhaps heroically sacrificing himself to save the team. It would be sad, but it wouldn’t be such a gut punch.

I don’t know. Hopefully the next attempt to reboot the franchise moves past all this time travel bullshit anyway. Don’t overthink it. Show us a not-so-distant future society at the moment the machines turn against them. Most importantly, do it from the perspective of someone who isn’t humanity’s savior.  Just show us what the apocalypse will be like for the rest of us, give us lots of Terminator-flavored battle scenes. This is what people what to see from this franchise, and it’ll probably do a lot better than all the weird science bullshit they’ve come up with thus far.

[sethmacenzie]

I read a lot about just bad sequels coming out and in all kinds of arts, like books, games, movies and television series.

But the thing is, it’s not that good stuff doesn’t come out anymore, but it doesn’t get as much advertisement anymore.

I have to search so much to find something good (that’s not fanfiction, because there is so much amazing stuff that is so easy to find, especially easy to look for what I want to read in the moment and how long it is aswell). There is still so much amazing stuff, but because big companies like Disney just overflow everything with their advertisment it’s hard to find the good stuff.

Over the Garden Wall came out 2014 and the only reason I knew about it, was because amazon prime had it in the “only available for a short period” section, so I watched it in one go and it was wonderful.

But I would have never seen it, if it wasn’t for that lucky moment. Because there is no advertisment at all.

My favourite author is in nearly no bookstore, even if his books get translated in over 20 languages, because it’s not your average everyday thriller.

So the problem isn’t that there isn’t good content, the problem is finding said good content.

Because the big companies don’t care about good storys, but only about making money, which is why bad sequels or remakes are coming more often, because it’s cheaper to copy than to write new.

[streetsolo]

The Last Jedi: A Divisive Film, and a Terrible Sequel

Despite positive reviews by critics, the Star Wars fanbase has been left fractured by the release of The Last Jedi. While some fans hail the film as the best installment since The Empire Strikes Ba…

In order for a trilogy to progress, it needs a good middle. This is true of any story. The middle of the story is the heart of the story. It lets our characters progress and grow. It tests their relationships with each other, whether it strengthens them or tears them apart. While it could arguably be a symptom of a shortened timeline, the film does little to enhance the characters or show any signs of growth. Instead, it seems to backpedal on the characterizations already set in place.

[would-you-rather-ooo]

Would you rather...

fix it

destroy it

Voting ended onMay 27