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Schizophrenic Bruce Wayne is something I WISHED that more comic writers would go more into. They will give him the symptoms, visual and auditory hallucinations, disorganized thinking, delusions of persecution (kinda), and Flat affect! But they do nothing with it, they just treat it like it's nothing and its so boring. Not to mention the Mania. I love mentally ill Bruce but with the way some people act when it is even said that he has depression is crazy. Maybe we can't have it yet.
Tim Drake, the ghost of Jason Todd, and the function of victim-blaming in Terror Management Theory
Ever hear someone victim blaming and wonder to yourself, why are you doing this? Why is it more comfortable to assume it was their fault? What does that say about your view of the world, and what percentage of reality are you willing to sacrifice to lean into that comfort?
1. A couple of disclaimers
2. The belief in a fair world
3. Agentivity: what power do I have to impact the world around me?
4. Road safety infomercials lied to you and also fuck the government
5. Strangely enough, your dead son's suit being hung up in a glass case in your secret hero cave is not a good idea for anyone involved
6. In conclusion: fuck cautionary tales
Bruce Wayne and the Tragedy of a Man Who Refuses to Be Happy 💔🦇
Bruce Wayne could have been happy.
Not in a naïve way, not in an "if his parents had never died” or "if Gotham were less cruel” way. No—even with the tragedy, even with Batman, he could have found something close to peace.
And yet, every time he gets close to happiness, he pushes it away with the precision of a man who has made suffering his identity.
💭 The problem with Bruce Wayne isn’t that he can’t be happy—it’s that he doesn’t know who he is without his pain.
From Dick to Damian, from Selina to Clark, the people who love him have tried to show him that there is more to him than darkness. But Bruce refuses to exist outside of Batman. He does not allow himself love without sacrifice, nor joy without the certainty that it will end in tragedy.
Because loss is the only thing that has ever felt real to him.
👁 Look at Selina: she has loved him in all his versions, but every time she gets too close, Bruce reminds her that their story is built on goodbyes. 👁 Look at his children: he protects them, guides them, but rarely gives them the security that his love is unconditional—because even love, to him, is a battle that must be fought. 👁 Look at Clark: the only person who does not fear him, does not idolize him, does not see him as a martyr—but as a man. A man who could be more.
Bruce is smart enough to know he could have something better. Self-aware enough to realize his own happiness has never been impossible.
But if he lets go of his pain… what is left?
If he stops being Batman for just one night, for just one kiss, for just one moment of peace… who does he become?
And in that question, in that inability to exist beyond his own tragedy, lies the true tragedy of Bruce Wayne.
[Dan Mora]
finally got around to properly reading “batman: under the hood” (or “under the red hood” idk man i’ve seen it both ways) and this right here made me so viscerally sick when i saw it i had to take a moment
(under the cut cause this gets long)
I need someone that believes in magic to get ahold of Batman again. He is an overly serious man that runs around in an admitted bat suit fighting a gimmick rouge gallery. And he is doing it because he sincerely believes in a better tomorrow and somewhere along the way we have lost the plot. Batman wasn’t created to punish the guilty that is actually completely antithetical to his beliefs he is not the fucking punisher.
Batman just like wonder woman and Superman primarily wants to save people! sure he doesn’t do it in a sunny way but that is still what drives him. Hell he even goes a step further and actually builds a case he’s not just waiting for criminals to commit the crime he is shutting down smuggling and trafficking rings foiling plots he is a detective! For Christs sake it’s what made him so unique and fun as a superhero.
Also His desire to save people is literally what compels him to adopt Dick, Jason, Stephanie. Cass because he wanted to give these kids a chance, to save them in ways 8year old him wasn’t. Someone who just wants to punish the guilty wouldn’t do that, And now they have turned him into a borderline physically and emotionally abusive absentee parent all in the name of making him an edge lord. Where is the heart! Where is the fucking heart in it all! Where are the kids and the bright colors and the zaniness. Let Batman and Gotham be FANTASTICAL! I’m tired of the greys and the browns.
I’m tired of “grounding a story” meaning sucking all the joy and color out if it. Also superhero stories don’t need to be grounded in your fucking abysmal reality they are literally superheroes they exist outside of reality, let them!
A story does not have to be joyless to have depth and it does not have to be nihilist to be compelling.
I am sick and I am tired of it. 😔
TOP SECRET THERAPY FILE
Patient: Bruce Wayne Therapist: Dr. Misaki Eto, Ph.D. Date: [REDACTED] Session Number: 1 Security Clearance: LEVEL OMEGA
SESSION TRANSCRIPT – EXTREME CONFIDENTIALITY ENFORCED
Dr. Eto’s Pre-Session Notes: Bruce Wayne does not talk.
That was the warning. That’s what every previous therapist wrote down in their notes before giving up and moving on. “Uncooperative.” “Unwilling.” “A waste of time.”
I was prepared for a man who would sit in front of me for an hour, arms crossed, saying nothing. Maybe he’d throw in a grumble for variety. I was fully expecting my coffee to do all the work in this session.
I was not expecting Bruce Wayne to walk into my office and, within minutes, lay his entire existential crisis at my feet.
[BEGIN TRANSCRIPT]
Dr. Eto: Mr. Wayne.
Bruce Wayne: Doctor.
(Note: Patient sits with perfect posture, but there’s tension in his shoulders. Not defensiveness—exhaustion. His jaw is clenched, his eyes are sharp, and he already looks like he regrets being here. Expected behavior so far.)
Dr. Eto: You’ve never stuck with therapy before. What changed?
Bruce Wayne: I have nothing to prove anymore.
(Translation: He got tired of pretending he was fine. Interesting.)
Dr. Eto: That’s not really an answer.
Bruce Wayne: I don’t have time to sit in a chair and—
(He stops. Exhales sharply. There’s a shift—like he’s realized, in real-time, that the excuse doesn’t work anymore. He leans forward slightly, rubbing a hand down his face before speaking again.)
Bruce Wayne: No. That’s a lie. I could make time. I just don’t.
(Note: Self-awareness. That’s rare. He moves past the lie without shame, which means he’s thought about this before.)
Dr. Eto: And yet, here you are.
(He huffs a humorless laugh. Shakes his head slightly. Then—)
Bruce Wayne: …I’m so tired.
(His voice drops, almost a whisper. His hands tighten on the armrests of his chair, but he doesn’t look away. I let the silence settle. He fills it himself.)
Bruce Wayne: You know how long I’ve been doing this? I don’t even know. My whole life? Feels like it. Every night, out there, trying to fix things that just keep breaking. Gotham never stops. It never slows down. The second you think you’ve won, another criminal, another tragedy, another disaster, another war. It’s like trying to drain the ocean with a cup. And the worst part? It’s not the sleepless nights, or the fighting. It’s the fact that I’ve dragged people into this.
(His fists clench for half a second before relaxing. He inhales slowly. Keeps going.)
Bruce Wayne: I tell myself I didn’t have a choice. That it was either bring them in or let them get themselves killed. That if I didn’t train them, they’d still be out there—just worse off. But that doesn’t help when I see the scars on their backs. When I realize I’ve raised them to fight a war I still don’t know how to win.
(He leans back, staring at the ceiling. His voice turns flat, factual—like listing his failures makes them easier to control.)
Bruce Wayne: Jason died.
(Pause.)
Dr. Eto: I know.
Bruce Wayne: He came back. And he hates me for it. And he’s right. Because if I had been faster, if I had been better, he wouldn’t have died in the first place.
(His expression doesn’t change. His voice doesn’t shake. But he blinks—too slow, like he’s forcibly suppressing something before it surfaces.)
Bruce Wayne: But he still calls me when he needs backup. He still comes home sometimes. So what does that mean?
(He waits for an answer I can’t give. He doesn’t expect one anyway. He moves on before I can try.)
Bruce Wayne: Damian doesn’t sleep. At all. I pretend I don’t notice, but I see the lights under his door at three in the morning. He’s ten, and he thinks he has to be better than me. I don’t know how to tell him that I don’t want that. That I never wanted any of this for him.
(His voice tightens, but he doesn’t stop.)
Bruce Wayne: Tim is running himself into the ground. His diet consists of caffeine and spite. He thinks I don’t see what’s happening. He thinks I don’t notice the way his hands shake when he reaches for his fifth cup of coffee at two in the morning. But if I say something, he’ll just double down out of principle.
(He huffs, shaking his head slightly—like he’s amused, but also furious. He keeps talking before he can stop himself.)
Bruce Wayne: And Dick? Dick is the best person I’ve ever known. He’s a better man than me. But every time he looks at me, I can see the part of him that still thinks I should have stopped him from leaving.
(He exhales sharply, rubbing his temple. His voice shifts, quieter now. Almost detached.)
Bruce Wayne: I make sure they have everything. I do everything I can to keep them safe. And it’s still not enough. I wasn’t enough for my parents. I wasn’t enough for Jason. I wasn’t enough to save Gotham. And I don’t know if I ever will be.
(Long silence. His fingers tap against the armrest of his chair. A restless habit. I say nothing. He finally looks at me again, head tilting slightly, evaluating.)
Bruce Wayne: You’re a good listener.
Dr. Eto: It’s my job.
(He smirks. Just a little. Then it’s gone.)
Bruce Wayne: Hn. Maybe I’ll come back.
(He stands up. Session over. He doesn’t even give me a chance to respond. He’s already gone.)
Dr. Eto’s Post-Session Notes:
I was told Bruce Wayne would never talk.
I think the truth is, nobody ever listened.
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as someone who's suffered through abuse and as someone who's comfort character is batman or more accurately batman comics and media as a whole as i like numerous characters within the series i actually truly despise the plot lines that have bruce be truly cruel to his kids especially jason.
narratively its almost repulsive because when batman first began he wanted to do good. clean up his city help people it wasn't strictly a martyr complex it was a genuine need to do something good. to bring about change to give gotham something it's never had before which was hope. batman became that symbol of hope, justice, and fear (for criminals).
at his core bruce is a good dad thats at least how he began batman was a good dad, he took dick in because he felt a sort of kinship with dick because there experiences were similar and he wanted dick safe. and the circus was no longer safe due to what happened to dicks parents and bruce had the means to take dick in so he did. he gave dick hope by letting him be robin it gave dick a purpose. mind you should bruce be letting children fight criminals no but also (side note the writers created robin so kids could relate to robin so they could see themselves in robin) at the end of the day it gave dick purpose it made him feel in a way safer. he did everything he could to make sure dick had what he needed/wanted.
same thing with jason bruce saw this child steal his tires and laughed out loud for the first time in a long time okay and when he eventually took jason in he gave jason whatever he needed and was showing him that the world wasn't all bad hell i think at even one point jason said robin was magic and had another surogate mom via nocturna. the point is in these issues bruce never mistreated any of them not a single one now how did we go from kids that are taken good care of to what we have now.
i mean some would say it was the grief of losing jason but i'll raise you this in real life people lose people all the time its just part of life but the grief doesn't completely change who you are on a fundamental level we had a somewhat empathetic and caring batman to now a controlling logic fueled bruce who tries to control everything and everyone even to the detriment of his own kids.... like yes bruce was a mess right but the writing was lazy they should've explored more of bruce's grief and then let him heal but they don't they constantly have bruce regress into abusing his kids and being overly cold. and using them as living weapons at times. sometimes it even seems as though he doesn't even care for them at all and i think the moment that we should've seen bruce break out of that rage filled grief cold numbness bullshit was that quote jason says to him.
"i've never seen you hit joker that hard and you hate him".
that shouldve been the moment writers pivoted to have bruce truly begin to heal and better himself narratively it would've made for a richer story instead they constantly exploit jason grief, trauma and loss for shock value and as someone who's been through alot of trauma im tired of it because this has never been what batman should be and right now the only batman depiction we have thats close to the original is absolute batman's comic run written by Scott Snyder. And absolute batman is being put through the grinder with the shit he deals with.
also i wont ever forgive dc for how they handled jason's death because the original writer wanted to do a exploration of grief but whoever was higher up was like no lets do nothing but action sequences and destroy any character growth. also on that note free jason from his shackles to constantly dying and bruce constantly abusing him.
(as always be kind and respectful in the comments section if i see one hateful rude disrespectful or nasty thing in the comments section i will block, report, and delete your comment as well as turn comments off lets keep this a safe place for all batman enjoyers also this is my take on it so no fighting the comments section or ill just delete the post altogether.)
The batman adventures has one of my favourite Jonathan scenes.
Maybe im just soft but the pure ecstasy and joy when he revels in his victory saddens me. His obsession, his need to be a source of terror. Yes it’s sadistic and evil but its not fun to see someone whos completely lost themselves like Jon has. People are not born evil. He must’ve been good at one point. Innocent at least.
At least to my knowledge whilst not canon the batman adventures comics have the same lore and characters as BTAS. We only ever see a younger Jon being cruel and obsessed with fear out of interest and sadism but I doubt that’s the whole story.
He was talking to his henchmen during the scene where he monologues. I doubt he would give the full truth and would probably try to seem more scary by painting himself the way he did.
I do believe part of it was honest. But what I want to know is the part before that. What started his fixation.
I wouldn’t be shocked if he had been bullied like many of his usual interpretations and or had a rough home life. He clearly has fairly fragile self esteem given how much he overreacted to being mildly insulted whilst getting fired. Not to mention kids who do show traits of sadism do usually have things like that going on behind the scenes.
And so we return to the comic.
Theyre all finally scared of me.
Yes you could read that surface level. But the possible deeper meanings especially with his mostly unknown past just. Depress me.
When some animals are terrified. They try to make themselves look scary in response. After all.
No matter his past. Jon has become the scarecrow. He has become so fixated on fear its all that matters to him. Its consumed him completely.
But people dont fear crane like he wants. They fear his persona. Hes become so lost in the scarecrow that he and everyone else forgets that he is just a man, and when his mask. His defence is removed. He is still what he always was. Just a weak, selfish human. That nobody fears.
