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Me (and Alanna), watching the Cauthon girlies burn Eamon Valda alive:
Look I'm still processing my own feelings around the Siuan Sanche decision and execution but I gotta get this out of my system real quick. Firstly, some of y'all are way too comfortable swatting down, mocking, and condescending to fans (BIPOC fans in particular) who are upset. I'd recommend reigning that shit in. You can disagree and push back without resorting to all of that. Many such examples abound already within this discussion itself. Maybe try to emulate that approach instead of just bulldozing through an emotionally and politically charged discourse for minority fans.
Secondly, try engaging with this backlash with the larger context of the show in mind. Or even just S3. Look at how many characters (with speaking roles) died this season and how many of them were black. Think about the unnecessary death of Child Valda (Eamon Valda) this early in the series. The actor, Abdul Salis, devoured his introduction scene (and every scene since) so goddamn thoroughly that he instantly made the White Cloaks a terrifying presence that has resonated throughout the rest of the show. This brilliance gets rewarded with an anticlimactic quick death, with no buildup, by the hands of characters we haven't had the time to get to know properly, and who didn't even share a single scene with him prior. Right when Perrin, who does have a real established connection with him, is set up to spend a whole lot of time with the White Cloaks. Why not keep him for longer, doing what he does best, so that when the girls kill him down the line we'd have spent enough time building up to their confrontation to make for a proper earned send off worthy of such a towering talent?
And Ryma, played magnificently by Nyokabi Gethaiga, who absolutely electrifies from the get-go and through (2x6) in particular (along with her warder Basan played by Bentley Kalu). Ryma whose scream and anguished face as she is being collared by the Seanchan has haunted us for the last two years. Who left such an impression of her kindness, her strength, her faith in her sisters, her bottomless love for her warder, and with so little on-screen time. Gets one singular scene this season. With no acknowledgment, explanation, or addressing of any part of her role last season. How was she freed? When? Why was she not part of the effort to uncover Black Ajah in the tower when we saw her so deeply pained and shaken even by just the realization that one of her sisters could betray their sisterhood? She was written into such an afterthought background character this season that so many audience members seem to have straight up not even recognized her as the same character from S2, as Ryma, at all.
And Ihvon, originally played by Emmanuel Imani and recast this season to be played by Anthony Kaye, who dies in ep.(1) and, to the show's credit, haunts Alanna and Maksim's storyline so strongly that we feel his presence throughout the season. But we see none of that reflected in the tower. With Stepin (Peter Franzén) in S1, we get such a beautiful display of the warder's brotherhood, cultural ties to each other, and most importantly, how deeply loved Stepin was by his fellow warders. S1 makes us feel the loss of him reverberate through them all so devastatingly. Where is that grief for Ihvon? Where is his community? We spend so much time in the tower immediately in the aftermath of his death, and yet there is no one to mourn or honor him in the absence of Alanna and Maksim? We couldn't have had some of our characters pass by or even just hear about the other warders holding a funeral for him? Or just remembering him in some way?
I could go on for a good while still honestly. And sure, we could make legitimate arguments and have readings that justify these choices individually. But regardless, what this shows in aggregate, is a pattern of clumsiness in handling dark-skinned black characters/actors in particular. While at the same time, playing around with extremely politically, historically, and emotionally charged images of black bodies. Be it Ryma being collared and never addressing it again, Child Valda's whole thing, etc. etc. ... and now Siuan Sanche bruised black and blue, bloody, stripped to her shifts, bodily dragged across the hall, and decapitated. These are incredibly powerful and visceral images.
And no, before someone tries to make this point, I am not saying you can't graphically kill, write off, or deprioritize black characters/actors for perfectly legitimate artistic or practical reasons under any circumstances. I am saying that those choices don't exist in a vacuum. The context of the text at large and the real world are inevitably going to be part of how those decisions are received. It's not enough to have good faith diverse casting. And it is not unreasonable to expect a continued treatment of care and thoughtfulness past the casting stage and into every other facet of their presence and exit from the story.
Uno & the Whitecloaks - feat this fabulous Uno cosplayer!!
When explaining to a friend how in the books Eamon Valda has a notable sword duel, so the character in the show having his arm permanently injured after the wolf attack was a choice that made clear that particular plot point wouldn’t be happening, I realized in both the books and the show he’s killed by the children of women he killed (or is thought to have killed, but definitely hurt).
Made the Cauthon kids’ flaming justice all the more poetic. I love how the show finds so many ways to tell a different story that at the same time is so much the same as the original.
was gonna do Dain or even Ishy atp and Perrin 😂 why does perrin attract crazy Faile i would say the maidens arent exactly chill to lets talk about it because free him
Aram Loial and Ingtar the only sane men he’s ever met
Abdul Salis in The Wheel of Time (s3) as Eamon Valda
Ive got my nitpicks with the amazon prime WoT show, but this season has definitely shown things are going in a good direction. They need to stop teasing me and show the Finn and give Mat his Ashandarei already, whether they are going to hang his ass for it or not, but otherwise most of my favorite aspects of the books have been handled really well. (Min is feeling like a bit of a fumble to me too, tbh) The Aes Sedai, the Aiel, Warder bonds, Tel'aran'rhiod, and so many other bits have been handled amazingly. Shohreh Aghdashloo was an amazing choice for Elaida, though I have a heavy bias from how much I loved her portrail of Chrisjen Avasarala in The Expanse adaptation. The White Cloaks too. Someone please give Abdul Salis an Emmy, cuz he will be Eamon Valda in my head forever more. Call my standards low (more than one person has), but I dont think enough people remember or had to experience 90s/2000s Sci-Fi Channel adaptations and the ever looming bogeyman of Red Eagle Productions. Changes were always going to happen when adapting a series with over a dozen books, and I think the team responsible for the current series has done a phenomenal job by any standard and far better than I expected when I heard Bezos got his grubby mitts on it.
Good question, Rand. Why do Crown have Swords in it?