#endgame thoughts

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Hollanov Incorrect Quote 14

Ilya: You are thinking about the future again. Shane: I don’t do that. Ilya: You do when it is us.

[nobodysuspectsthebutterfly]

“Finally the wise of both races prevailed, and the chiefs and heroes of the First Men met the greenseers and wood dancers amidst the weirwood groves of a small island in the great lake called Gods Eye. There they forged the Pact. The First Men were given the coastlands, the high plains and bright meadows, the mountains and bogs, but the deep woods were to remain forever the children's, and no more weirwoods were to be put to the axe anywhere in the realm. So the gods might bear witness to the signing, every tree on the island was given a face, and afterward, the sacred order of green men was formed to keep watch over the Isle of Faces.”

If the little crannogman could visit the Isle of Faces, maybe I could too. All the tales agreed that the green men had strange magic powers. Maybe they could help him walk again, even turn him into a knight.

Bran Stark, King on the Isle of Faces

A secret Santa gift for @maesterleia, from your friend Ysilla! ❤

I loved this prompt, and I share your love for the symbolism and fantasy imagery in Bran’s storyline, some of the coolest and most fascinating elements of this series, what makes A Song of Ice and Fire the books we love so much. I hope this suits!

[reallastinglegacy]

only I realized that in the scene where Rhodes proposes to kill the baby Thanos and Bruce replies that, although it was Thanos this was a horrible attitude, it is a possible reference to his past with his abusive father, since Brain tried to kill Bruce when he was a child ?

this is a completely new piece of information I'm hearing, I didn't even have enough time to see this because I was too busy being angry at the disaster endgame was, this comment will now live rent free in my head...thank you :')

[harkasun]

So Clint was carrying the whole goddamn team with the time-travel test run AND by grabbing and legging it with the gauntlet and no one’s gonna talk about it??

[iladylittlefinger]

Endgame thoughts

I loved Endgame.

I would have loved it entirely if Steve had stayed, tho.

I like Steggy as a ship and Peg is my fave female on the entire MCU, but their romance was better as something that couldn´t be. Peggy had a life after he went on the ice, and having seen Agent Carter i´ll say she moved on and found someone else (Daniel Sousa). 

The Russos and M&M even made a reference to the show when Jarvis appeared on the Howard/Tony scene. But they seem to have forgotten their own work on Agent Carter, CATWS and CACW. They seem to have forgotten Steve and Peggy´s characters and how important Bucky was to Steve. I certainly didn´t think the end of the line was going to be that. 

I ship Stucky, but this is not why i´m complaining. Steve didn´t move on. He could have stayed with his friends, he could have retired and given the shield to Sam just the same (i´m completely for Sam Cap but what the Russos said about Buck not getting the shield because he has a damaged mind was just fucked up)...but he didn´t. 

And don´t misunderstand me, i love Steve Rogers, i love Peggy Carter (who was always so much more than just a romantic interest) but the ending of Endgame is the only reason i didn´t entirely enjoy a movie that was problably the one i expected more in all my life

[keriganstark]

Things I liked/disliked About Endgame (Obviously, spoilers)

I need somewhere to rant so here we go.

Liked:

- All that sweet sweet pepperony content.

-  Every Tony/Nebula scene.

- Captain Marvel being the one to rescue Tony (actually, all the captain marvel scenes).

- Every moment Natasha was on screen. The budapest references, her fucking sweet as fuck relationship with Clint. What a fucking icon we stan black widow. That cute forehead touch. A really genuinely sweet male/female platonic relationship. 

- Nat, Bruce and Tony sitting on that desk making up master plans together.

- Rhodey proposing they go back in time and kill baby Thanos. 

- Rhodey in general.

- Pepper in the Rescue suit (hazzah!)

- All the marvel ladies gathering together. 

- Scarlet Witch kicking Thanos’ ass. You get him sweetie.

- Not in anyway acknowledging Nat and Bruce’s romantic past.

- All the easter eggs during the time travel. Actually everything during the time travel, especially hulk going down the stairs. Oh, and America’s Ass. 

- Tony getting closure with his dad and Thor getting closure with his mom.

- I mean pretty much the entire end battle sequence.

- MORGAN STARK.

- Soft Tony and Peter hug. 

- Gamora coming back in any shape or form (hey, at least she’s not dead man)

- The ancient one. God bless that was good.

Disliked:

- Thor’s arch. They could have done something really interesting with his depression, alcoholism and PTSD (like iron man 3, which was life changing for me to see a hero deal with anxiety on screen) and instead they treated it like a joke and undid two movies of fantastic character development after the subpar development that the dark world and ultron did. Oh, and on this note, not giving him his fucking brother back. He deserved at least that much after all they put him through, like.

- I’d like to say, again, NOT bringing back Loki.

- Hulk’s arch. I just... did not enjoy it. It was weird man. The parts I liked hulk the most was when they went back in time and we got to see cute baby hulk. That was not the way to develop that character, man. Bruce Banner and Hulk are so good as separate characters. All we wanted was to watch him bust out of the hulkbuster armour not turn into professor hulk and wear tshirts.

- Killing Nat and Tony. Even though both were actually so well done and I couldn’t have asked for better deaths it still bummed me out and I dont watch superhero movies to be bummed out. I want a little angst and then a happy ending. If I want to watch all my faves die I’ll go watch game of thrones. I watch superhero movies to feel hope, to feel like a little kid, and feel like I can do anything if these heroes can save the world. 

- “till the end of the line” steve ditching bucky in a world where he has like... no friends except for his frenemy sam wilson so he can homewreck in an alternate timeline. I mean I still dig the last dance scene because cute but he was just like... byeeee buckyyy. This movie did a lot of justice to small relationships and nods (like wanda/clint) but somehow forgot how much steve loved bucky. Not enough justice was done for that (gay) relationship.

- the fact that they like... totally could have gone back in time and brought past versions of Tony and Nat into the present exactly like what happened with Gamora. Like yes it would create alternate timelines but I mean that’s already happening with 2014 Gamora appearing now and Steve staying back with Peggy. It wouldn’t effect their own timeline. Steve could have gone to a version of Tony before the battle and been like ‘yo dude... I need you to come back with me you are dead in our timeline and if I bring you with me you get to live a happy life with your wife and daughter, do you trust me?’ cute full circle moment.

[stevengreatrogers]

FINAL ENDGAME THOUGHTS

All in all it was a fantastic movie. Excellently paced, and the music was amazing. I’m going to see it again. I cried over Tony and over Nat and over everyone else, but in the theater right after I just couldn’t find a thing wrong with it. It was perfect. Even with Steve’s selfish choice, I’m happy for him. (Maybe he deserves to be selfish every once and a while). And I’m happy the way the Infinity Saga is ending. 10/10

HOWEVER, I would change a few things.

1. Natasha’s death. I’ve seen on Twitter that the Russos added it in last second for drama, meaning they didn’t actually need it for the story to work (probably why there was no funeral or ceremony). My fix: both Natasha AND Clint fall off the cliff, and they both kill someone they love by doing so. Then they BOTH wake up in the lake, having found some cosmic loop hole in getting the stone and then both of them live on.

2. Fat Thor. I have nothing wrong with Thor being chunky or an alcoholic as a part of his grief, however I felt like they were being really disrespectful about it. If they wanted to show Chunky Thor as a recognition of how trauma can change someone then they wouldn’t have made him a punchline. He was comedic relief and it felt disrespectful to his character AND to fat people, because the whole joke was “lol he’s fat now” and “he really let himself go” instead of “he’s dealing with a lot and needs support”.

3. Steve’s end. It felt very out of character for “the guy who wanted family died in the Arctic” and “all I had was Bucky” guy to leave without saying goodbye to marry a woman he knew for two years, ten years ago. When he time traveled back with Tony to the SHIELD compound and saw Peggy, he should have realized she moved on. Then, while he was returning the stones he should have returned to her, had their dance and a kiss, and then left her to get married like she does in his own timeline (instead of stealing her from her potential husband) and then returned to the platform like he was supposed to. Then he should have given the shield to Sam and retired, finally having time to relax and cultivate his existing relationships instead of leaving it all for Peggy.

[cinnamonrollstark]

Okay, so Tony dies in 2023, yeah? Which means, not only is he still alive right now,

He is actively playing with baby Morgan. He's rocking her and bouncing her and telling her she's the light of his world.

He's getting her toys, far too many of them. He's buying a tremendous amount of baby clothes, jackets that make him laugh because, oh my God, its a rainjacket for an infant,

He's reading her board books, Max and Ruby because he loves the way she giggles when she sees the cartoon rabbits, and stealing her nose, giving it back when she cries,

He's holding her close, breathing in that beautiful baby smell, rocking her back and forth, hoping and praying that she can feel every ounce of love he has for her through only the pores of his skin.

In his own way, he knows what will come, but for now, he is (mostly) content.