#jaardan

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freelancervermont replied to your post “My theory on the Benefactor is that it’s the Illusive Man. And maybe...”

I'm still clinging to the idea that the Benefactor is actually the Jaardan

I don’t know why and how but I’m 100% for this idea!!!!

that would be good for MEA too, because it would develop the MEA lore instead of relying on the trilogy one

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Mass Effect Inquiry

POTENTIAL SPOILERS So, I have a serious question in regards to Jaal. At the beginning of the game when you land on Havarl, you hear a few Angara speak of reincarnation. You also can partake on a side mission where an Angara finds the remains of his past self and remembers what happened to him and how he died. LATER when you land on the Meridian Ship for the first time looking for Archon, Jaal makes a comment in regards to the ship seeming familiar; strangely familiar. Then we learn the Angara were blueprints created by the alien race called Jaardan. Possibly as a means to continue living. Does Jaal remember his passed self as a possible Jaardan?? I can't rack my brain around this. Is this foreshadowing of some sort for a future game? Does anyone have any opinion on the matter?

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Andromeda Can’t Be a Standalone Game

I’ve been thinking about this playing through the game, and I’m going to put a [SPOILER WARNING] right there so anyone reading this knows and is warned. If you choose to read beyond this point, I’m not responsible for the spoilery stuff you found. So there are a number of reasons going through this that I think Mass Effect Andromeda can’t be a simple standalone game and will at the very least require a sequel. Perhaps not another trilogy, but at least a sequel.  First, I haven’t read the book yet but if you finished the Ryder Family Secret quest you know that Jien Garson’s death wasn’t because of the Scourge. She was murdered in cold blood, because she suspected someone called “the benefactor” ... a person with a lot of money and resources to make things happen. Jien Garson was just the spokesperson. I don’t know about you guys, but that reeks a bit of TIM... don’t think that Cerberus will make a huge appearance, but if TIM was involved, I wouldn’t be surprised at all to see a Cerberus cameo. Of course, this bit can certainly be explained away in a shadowbroker type DLC, but what Bioware plans to do with this avenue is yet to be seen. If this is covered in the books, someone let me know. Second, the Kett are not gone. At the end of the cinematic after the final fight, we see a Kett ship with what appears to be the Archon’s second in command angrily grimacing at Meridian where we just took down the Archon. Not to mention, in one of the side quests we know that Kett command doesn’t end with the Archon. He was just the current influential figure in Heleus. There is a whole bunch of them like Archon out there who may very well take Archon’s death as a declaration of war.  Third, relations with the Angara are just getting started. Again, this is something else they can cover in a DLC but the relationship is still on unstead ground and we’re still only building the foundation of a relationship. And not to mention a great deal of Angara still don’t trust us or like us.  Fourth, and this is the biggest one, the Jaardan. We have been told there is a possibility they will return to finish what they started. And in a conversation with PeeBee after her loyalty mission she equates them with “the closest thing to gods we’ve ever touched.” But she goes on to say that the Jaardan were attacked and driven off. Which is clarified in one of the later story missions of the game. “The gods have an enemy, and it will also be unlike anything we’ve seen.” Which could very well mean there are even bigger enemies than the Kett to come. Why do I say bigger enemies than the Kett? Because in one of the final missions, the Kett get their asses handed to them by friendly Jaardan tech. There is no way the Kett could give the Jaardan enough of a fight to make them retreat into whatever netherworld they came from. With all this in mind... there is a LOT of ground to cover that I really don’t think mere DLCs can do justice.

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velynven replied to your post “I feel like the benefactor has to have some ties to Cerberus.”

I was still holding out hope for the Benefactor to be an alien but I am intrigued by it being an AI. What if it's somehow connected to the Jardaan?

If the Benefactor is on board and left the Milky Way for Andromeda, it would be absolutely amazing if it’s a Jardaan. Maybe not the last, maybe a rebel among their people, but what’s their end goal? I don’t think they predicted the kett but taking so many Milky Way species with them, that could be for a reason. Then again, it’s all tied to one cluster. 

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buffalo-bilbo mentioned you on a post “Confession:  I just got the craziest idea. The Jardaan created the...”

@omegastation TIN FOIL HAT: maybe they're sad AI's who killed that cluster in some kind of geth/Quarian scenario and so they wanted to make up for it with atmospheric processors and wanted the denizens they created to be able to maintain it *just in case*. Or they had planned to leave at some point. Or they're mad scientists or just plain mad like some sort of leviathan/apex species sort of thing.

Oh yeah but I wonder about the angara’s relationship with the Remnant technology - that’s what bothers me. Organics can only interact with it if connected to an AI, which is not the case of the angara when we find them... I wonder if the angaran VI can be linked to all this.

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I have two discussions points for you, so there's another ask coming. First off: Remember how the Ancient AI on Voeld is supposed to be angaran, yet it says the angara aren't their people? Could the AI be a Jaarden AI or a Jaarden themselves? If so, is it possible that the Jaarden could be a benelovent reaper analogue for Andromeda? Creating the angara as literal offspring?

Wow, so many interesting things to discuss. 1. The angara: I think they're their own people. I would basically ask the question: are you not your own if a God has created you? I think you are.The only way you wouldn't be is if you lack freedom: freedom to do good, freedom to do bad. The angara might have been created by the Jaardan but as far as we know, they're free. The only times we see them possibly lacking freedom is when they're connected to past memories. It has a profound change on how they act and think. 2. The AI: I can't know for sure if it's truly a creation made by the Angara or the Jaardan, but your question begs another: can the angara accomplish things on their own? I think the answer is definitely yes. We know they are quite advanced technologically. It could be the Jaardan's influence but some things might have been created long after the Jaardan disappeared. It's a bit like the Reapers: all the species in the Milky Way used their technology to "advance" but they still had their own accomplishments. 3. The Jaardan compared to the Reapers: I think the danger with having the angara created by the Jaardan is that the comparison would be: Jaardan=Leviathan Angara=ReapersWhat is interesting is that the Reapers turned against their creators. 4. Jaardan as benevolent: I don't know yet. We've seen their creations can do good or bad, so it's hard to tell right now.

It's still early so I don't feel like I quite understand MEA lore like I do the trilogy lore, so I would love for people to comment on this. Multiple opinions would really help!

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Jaardan por John Paesano, EA Games Soundtrack publicado en el álbum Mass Effect Andromeda (Original Game Soundtrack).