#juno (pjo)

[justaz]

Something thats funny and a little fucked up to me is that despite percy being a nuisance and pissing off almost every god at least once, he still has a better relationship to them than they have with their own kids. What do you mean hermes came to talk to percy before the quest in som and couldn’t even claim chris when he was at camp? What do you mean aphrodite made a personal visit to percy in the middle of the quest in ttc just to tease him about his crush? What do you mean hermes wanted to go waterskiing with percy for a day? What do you mean mars and juno just let percy mouth off to them without incinerating him or making an example of him? Mars just laughed him off????

[coquettemouseevil]

[dogwaterdish]

headcanon that jason doesn’t trust a single peacock he sees. also headcanon that peacocks LOVE jason and like to follow him around

[insomanyfandomsilosttrack]

There is so much Grace Siblings angst potential in the fact that Zeus loves and adores Thalia, literally that girl is his pride and joy, but Thalia hates Zeus with every fiber of her being, and will literally spit at him if given the chance,

verses Jason, who is literally aching and begging, and silently screaming, yearning for even an ounce of love from Jupiter. Jason, who literally spent his entire life from the ripe old age of two, doing everything he possibly could and more, to try and make his father proud, to earn his fathers love.

And him watching Thalia get everything he ever wanted from their dad, and throwing it away... Fills him with so much confusion and anger.

Jason: Why? Why is it not me, but you...?

Why have I worked so hard, only to remain unclaimed? Yet you were claimed instantly?

Why have I spent my entire life serving the gods? When you chose to save yourself from a prophecy?

Why, when I chose to fulfill my prophesied death, was I never saved or mourned? When he defied all rules to save you from death?

What did I do so wrong? That you did so right?

Thalia: ...I'm sorry

Jason: And what good is your sorry? When in the end, even you choose to leave me over and over again to return to the Hunt?

Jason: Why do I have to keep making up reasons and excuses for people who are supposed to raise me, to love me, for leaving me? You, Mother, Father, Lupa, the Legion, Juno, even my friends.

Why do you all keep leaving me??

What am I doing so wrong? That everybody else, is doing so right?

@starlightshadowsworld, @freezer-bride-your-sweet-divine

[introspectivememories]

thinking about jason and juno again. and juno specifically, not hera. bc like hera likes him, loves him even if the moon is blue enough, but he's juno's son champion through and through. like that's his mom. juno and lupa. when he thinks about his mom, he doesn't think about beryl, he thinks of how cold and wet lupa's snout was when she used to nuzzle him. he thinks of juno's hands in his hair when he would fall asleep in her temple. like that's his mom!!!!

and i really do wonder what their relationship was like before the switch. what did it mean to be juno's champion? and it's not like juno was just some big goddess. contrary to what riordan thinks, the romans were not some temu knockoff of the greeks. juno was the protector of rome and she was part of the capitoline triad. what did that mean for jason who so clearly bore her favor?

the romans considered her the protector of rome. they called her juno moneta, juno the warner. did jason also feel when threats to new rome were made? maybe he didn't get visions but did he wake up somedays and tie his shin guards tighter? did he run drills twice as hard in the year before the battle at mt. tamalpais? as the romans were preparing for war with the greeks did he move restlessly on the argo II? when he was out on missions in new rome, did he take out monsters near the camp? and in a more day-to-day experience, did he vote against seemingly harmless policies in the camp and in the city because of a gut instinct?

she was the patron of marriages in rome. did they have come to weddings in new rome so it could be blessed by juno? did she let him bless unions? do you think this was jason's favorite aspect of juno? do you think he tried to attend as many weddings as possible? do you think he felt like something was missing when he was a chb when he couldn't perform these duties? she was a fertility goddess as well. when a baby was born in new rome, do you think jason woke up with a pull in his chest? do you think jason liked holding these infants, the newest member of his city, and blessing them? do you think jason became a common sight in the maternity ward? how many children had a "big brother jason" or an "uncle jason" who came over every once in a while to play with them? do you think he let them play in her temple when they came by? do you think he lifted them up so they could adorn her with flowers?

like do you think he was her priest in addition to being her champion? did he raise the geese that lived in her temple? did he slaughter the goat for her festival? did he sweep and clean her temple? did he sing the songs and lead the prayers? did he find the peacock that lives there? did he plant the lotus flowers? how much of the temple duties did he perform? how long do you have to do something before it becomes a part of who you are? and when he's at chb, did it make him angry to see how cold and impersonal hera's cabin was? did it make him uncomfortable to see it so empty? was he twitching with no temple duties to keep busy with? with no geese to run after? with no rome to protect?

when he was younger, how often did he fall asleep in the temple, under his lady's watchful eye? how often did he wake up to a woman in a goatskin running her fingers through his hair singing lullabies? how often did he talk to her? how often did she respond to her champion's prayers?

and i think ultimately this removal of such a core part of him is why he never truly repaired his relationship with juno. because she took out a core part of who he was. maybe it was conditioning, maybe she raised him from birth to be a lamb for the slaughter, but it was still who he was. he was jason grace, "champion of juno" first and "son of jupiter" second. and in many ways, he was her only demigod son. and when she took it out of him, there was hole. a yawning, gaping, chasm. and he filled it with other things so well that there was no need and no room for her. he had now become jason grace "son of jupiter" first and "champion of juno" second.

[aspoonfulofsugar53]

am i missing something ?? why is everyone saying hera is the reason for everything wrong with leo’s life ??? and say she hated him and abused him???

hera took leo in. she babysat him. as in TOOK CARE OF HIM. yeah she put him in a fireplace - he’s fire resistant. she was helping his body regulate to flames so he grows up to be immune. obviously it’s dangerous to regular mortal babies hence why esperanza was distraught BUT LEO ISNT A REGULAR MORTAL BABY!! HE HAS FIRE POWERS!!

hera was always like “yes little hero you will grow up and save the world” - no that doesn’t mean she’s the reason his mom died. that was gaea’s doing. hera can just see the future. and she was preparing him to be a hero. and she still watched him and it’s fact that leo was still alive and well and she sang him songs says something.

[journal-of-janus]

What do you think of Jason and Juno's relationship? What were they? A queen and her blade, and sometimes, very rarely, tinged with a certain motherly affection- that's almost not there. What is Jason to Juno? Just a connection to the mortal world, her champion? Jason was the executioner of her will. Do you think she ever felt, even in the slightest, some maternal affection? I sometimes headcanon that Jason, son of Jupiter, perhaps embodied more of Juno than his father sometimes or usually. Their relationship had so much potential! Jason and Juno had every right to be explored as a more nuanced characters. Juno was the patron goddess of Rome and all, but also the goddess of motherhood. And somehow, perhaps against her own knowledge, embodied its every flaw to perfection. She saw a hero she had to shape into greatness, not anything more. Not a boy who had never felt the unconditional love of a parent. She didn't know what to do with a small Jason, barely five, staring up at her in awe, and love and admiration. (Not Jason having double mommy issues, from both Beryl and Juno). We see through how she mourns Jason in ToA that she did love him, in her own twisted way. She loved him, though she couldn't express it in a way that mattered. What's the point of a love that was never known? Jason died knowing he was not loved. The soldier she built died as one. A hero. Her champion. Does she regret it? Never knowing him? Stripping him of his identity? (I love them SO much. We have tragic father son dynamics, and tragic mother daughter dynamics, we don't nearly have enough mother-son dynamics.) So, my questions, in short, are: What do you think of Jason and Juno's relationship? What do you think could be explored about them? How do you think their relationship dynamics were like?

Anon, I am so sorry for how long it took me to answer, I was struggling to find an answer for what you've given me.

I do think a lot about this, and I like to imagine the implications.

Now, Anon, ive been trying to find a good way to respond, to add something insightful, maybe find a piece of Canon that I can add in, something to answer your question in a way that feels right.

You asked what I think of Jason and Juno. But you've described it pretty well. I suppose the best answer I could provide for you is the weapon she grew to enjoy.

He is her perfect weapon. A perfect soilder. But shes a goddess, he was her project. She loved him, but only when it was too late. Only when he died before she could learn it herself.

The idea that Jason embodies Juno more does have merit, ill say. We see it in how he fights, how he throws himself out there. Jupiter would do no such things. Perhaps Juno would though.

Though this doesnt exactly answer your questions. So ill try.

Jason and Junos relationship to me, is a soilder groomed to be a sword and shield and she was the one to display it on her wall. And no matter how hard she tried to keep it that way, she must've grown to look at that shield as the baby in the woods. But not until he was dead.

I believe what could have been explored more was how this translates to her reaction in his battles. We've seen her grieving when he dies. Does she stress when hes close to it? Does she get the urge to tilt the scales in his favor? Has she ever followed through? How does her domains interfere with keeping him her sharpened sword and shield?

I believe their relationship to be complicated at best. She cares for him after he died, but he died as a weapon, not a child. He died like a Greek. Her roman died a Greek. Im sorry if this particular answer disappoints you, but thats how I can best explain it.

I believe their relationship to be nuanced, complicated, full of symbolism, tragedy. And i wish Rick explored it more.

But Anon, if youd like, send me another ask, answer a question or three for me.

What do you think this means for Thalia? Does anything change in Hera/Junos mind about her? Does she believe she should have bedn more or less attached? And does she resent the events that led up to this?

I'm curious to hear your thoughts, if you'll humor them.

And once again, im terribly sorry if this wasnt what you expected, or if it disappointed you.

-Janus

[bugpurity]

i need to know your thoughts on jason and juno's relationship, to me they are very mother-son coded and he is extremely loyal to her

I think of them as a very twisted mother son relationship, which often straddles the line between transactional and being out of genuine love.

My personal favourite Jason Grace headcanon is of course, the cycle of patricide. Jupiter killed his dad, who killed his dad before him, to become king. I can imagine if violent bloody murder ran im your family, it'd make you a bit paranoid. Paranoid that any of your sons would choose to do the same thi g, kill you and gain your power, even a tiny child who has shown you nothing but respect. So I think Jupiter really did not want Jason alive. But Juno wanted, needed Jason to live so that he could be her champion and complete the quest of the Seven.

So Jason was kept alive to appease her. So the only thing keeping Jason from a lightning infused end is Juno's protection. And I think she makes sure he knows it. Jasons loyalty is secured immediately by the threat that hangs in the air: if I ever get mad at you, I won't hurt you, but my husband certainly will. Jason needs her, as much as she needs him, she needs him to complete the quest, even if it is ages away. She won't kill him, she doesn't want the world to end. But a healthy dosage of fear, of worry in her champion makes him much easier to control.

And she doesn't even need to take the blame. Its technically not her who would hurt him, it was her husband! Her hands would always stay clean, as pure as a mothers love always was.

That isn't to say that it is all doom and gloom. At first I think she just wanted to see him as a means to an end, because he was an affair baby, and it was so much work to keep Jupiter to not kill this child. But Jason, yearning for any kind of affection and knew he could get that attention by working hard. So he worked hard to please her, was loyal to her for reasons other than He Doesnt Want To Die. He wanted her love. And after a while she caved. She loved him, in her own way. It wasn’t enough. She cried when he died. She loved him a bit, but in the way someone loves a stray puppy. I don't think she respected him enough as a person, because she was completely ready to raise him like a lamb for slaughter (aka amnesia).

Hes a sacrifical lamb at the end of the day.