IDK I think if cis men are being told that being fat will lower their testosterone and make them Insufficiently Masculine, and cis women are being told that being fat will raise their testosterone and make them Excessively Masculine, and fat trans people are being denied the right to medically transition if they're fat, and thin trans people are warned against HRT because it will make them fat (and this is said about both testosterone and estrogen HRT), and androgynous-presenting people are told that only thin people count as androgynous...
Then maybe...
Maybe...
Maybe the weight loss industry is just using Gender to enforce fatphobia.
I believe in absolute bodily autonomy for anything that doesn’t directly impact the health of others. Not in broad societal “think of the implications!” ways, but LITERALLY make them sicker. This is why I think restrictions on indoor smoking are good and that vaccines should be mandatory for anyone who doesn’t have a real (not imagined) medical risk from getting one. We have very hard evidence for the existence of harm from secondhand smoke, and the need for herd immunity above a certain threshold percentage to stop the spread of infectious diseases. But when it comes to abortion or gender transition, there’s no way you can make an argument that someone else making that decision “harms” you that doesn’t get into “broad societal trends” that a) can be argued for anything, and therefore b) are too ambiguous to be the basis of policy. And I’m sorry to my fellow fat people but fretting about how the availability of GLP-1s “affects the fat acceptance movement” is the same shit. And going “well some people really need it but what about these celebrities who are already skinny” is the same as “well some people need abortions but what about stupid sluts who use it as birth control” or “well if you have a gender dysphoria diagnosis but I think some people are taking hormones because it’s trendy.” Along with that there’s no way to police the people doing things for “bad” reasons that doesn’t limit everybody, those celebrities have bodily autonomy too. If you are bothered by the way the media covers them, critique the media coverage. But ultimately, no one owes you a particular body type.
(Before someone derails this post or does the “why didn’t you explicitly state this thing you merely implied” thing, this is deliberately leaving aside all the unscientific scaremongering about GLP-1s. You can see what I think and what others I agree with think about that by clicking the relevant tags on this post.)
After coming across this blog, so many things I used to think nothing of seem really weird to me now. Like the stereotype of pedophiles as creepy older men. It’s something that doesn’t seem weird until you know more about what pedophilia actually is. Like yeah sure creepy older men do take advantage of children sometimes, but that doesn’t mean they do it because they’re attracted to them, just that they hold a position of power over them and decided to abuse it. It was their choice to do that, not some sort of magical force caused by attraction that compelled them. Most likely they weren’t attracted at all. It’s just a harmful stereotype that perpetuates bigotry against people with pedophilia. Also, even generalizing child predators as older men is weird. There is no one way for an abuser to be. It also perpetuates other forms of bigotry to associate certain people with being predatory. Like the “discord mod” stereotype, for instance. I don’t have the energy to explain that in more detail though, so I think I’ll leave that to you if you’re willing.
This is paramisia.
Yeah, the conflation of child predator and pedophile is extremely prevalent and disappointing. They are not the same thing [link.] Thoughts/feelings =/= harmful action.
And the stereotype of only men being child predators is just so dismissive of children who get preyed on by women or enben.
There's also something androsizeist to be said about how the "discord mod" stereotype is often a fat neckbearded man. Can we stop attributing behaviors to appearances???
the unfailing consistency with which totally mundane pictures of fat characters get flagged while totally explicit pictures of muscular or thin characters just mosey along is so infuriating I find myself fantasizing about something involving a car covered in hammers that explodes more than a few times and hammers go flying everywhere
The guy working the cash register at a dollar tree said that my look (my yellow tennis shoes and purple & black striped socks) was "discord mod" vs queer eye
He said I looked gay at first and I was like I wonder why I am gay then he specified the difference between "queer eye" gay and "discord mod" gay
Also for clarity, I also have what people call a "neck beard" and I do look like the "discord mod" stereotype in basically everyway except I'm not obviously fat (probably look that way cause I wear a whole ton of baggy stuff and am trans {fat distribution and people tend to think bigger clothes equal bigger person})
He even told my sister that she "shouldn't have let me go out like that"
That was one of the most blatantly homophobic (and etc) shit I've heard in this town. My sister even tried to call it homophobic and he doubled down
Bringing my alligator next time (joke cause I'm in Florida and it's a fun stereotype to reclaim in my opinion)
This is such blatant homoandrophobia and androsizeism (cuz they likely assumed you were fat), fucking hell. Also, can people be fucking normal about neckbeards, and stop body-shaming? I'm so tired of it.
i have seen several blogs that are anti-fat-liberation saying that the movement is "stealing" or "co-opting" from "legitimate" social justice movements and it makes me so mad because they're wrong and cruel about it to boot, but i don't know how to articulate why and uuuugh
Ugggggh. First of all, the notion that social justice movements can be "stolen from" is the worst possible discourse to come out of the late 2000s, and I hate that it still has staying power.
Fat people are systematically discriminated against in every facet of life. We receive worse healthcare, lower salaries, and worse interpersonal treatment than thin people. It is both legal and accepted practice for doctors to refuse to treat a patient solely because they are fat. How is that not a "legitimate" social justice issue? Why would it not be an obvious and simple policy change to forbid weight-based discrimination in medicine?
I mean, we all know the answer. They don't think fat liberation is an illegitimate movement because fat people aren't marginalized; they think it's illegitimate because we deserve it.
Anti masculinity is when I (a trans masc age regresor) felt pressured not to transition because*most* agere stuff I see is fem and canonically hairy, fat dude characters get turned skinny and hairless in agere art.
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This is anti-masculinity, androsizeism, and also androableism.
People treat fat hairy men and/or disabled men like outcasts. If they do something traditionally enjoyed by children, they are automatically violently accused of being predatory and fetishizing children.
We are not repulsive. We are not vile. We are not appalling.
We are people.
If my existence "promotes obesity"? Good!
You want to know why?
I am not promoting the idea that someone should become obese. I am not going to attempt to police someone else's body and lifestyle like sizeist people do.
I am promoting the idea that people of all sizes are deserving of the bare minimum of basic human respect.
This should not be a radical idea. This should not be something we have to fight about.
99% of the time? Being fat is not a choice. And you know what? Even if it was - even if I was shoving big macs into my greasy fucking maw every 2 hours?
I would still be deserving of basic decency.
I would still be deserving of proper medical care that takes into account things other than my size and diet.
I would still be deserving of comfort, of clothing that fits.
You want to know the worst part of all of this?
Fat kids deserve better, and all too often, they don't get it.
Fat kids deserve to be able to be active without being mocked for the way their body moves.
Fat kids deserve to be seen as children rather than medical problems that need solving.
Fat kids deserve clothing that fits them and makes them feel good about themselves.
Fat kids deserve to eat, and to eat good food.
Fat kids deserve to eat cake at birthday parties like everyone else.
Fat kids deserve to go trick-or-treating like all the other kids.
Fat kids deserve love. Fat kids deserve respect.
Fat kids deserve a proper childhood without having to pay a toll of trying to change their bodies.
Fat kids deserve acceptance for their bodies as they are and as they will be - not pleasantries about how they'll grow up to be skinny, so they don't need to learn to love themselves before then.
Fat people deserve better.
EDIT: since this is continuing to get reblogs, i just want to add that this is probably worded at least a little differently than i would have done today and if you try to come at the post my 19-year-old mid-torment-nexus self made with bad faith, you can catch these hands, my crutches, my cane, and my rollator. behave yourselves or die by my sword of flames. or some shit.
