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[technologicgodot]

[05:18] -- effluentBalatron [EB] began pestering technologicGodot [TG] at 17:18 --

[05:18] EB: dave! holy shit!

[05:18] TG: yeah

[05:19] EB: i!

[05:19] EB: don't even know where to start. :/

[05:27] EB: could you help me out here, maybe?

[05:27] TG: with what

[05:28] EB: with what the heck he said to you? because you never actually told me.

[05:28] EB: i am really confused.

[05:29] TG: same stuff he says to me all the time

[05:29] TG: how i fuck everything up

[05:29] EB: what, that you're not good enough because you're not from his timeline?

[05:29] EB: that too.

[05:29] EB: well first of all: you don't???

[05:29] EB: and second of all...what does this have to do with me?

[05:30] TG: how i do nothing but fuck around and wallow in my own shit rather than actually keep in contact with people

[05:30] TG: when i do its just not as often but whatever

[05:30] TG: it doesnt matter

[05:30] EB: for fuck's sake.

[05:30] EB: of course it matters.

[05:31] EB: you freaked out back there. real bad. and you seemed really upset. at me specifically.

[05:31] EB: and i couldn't say anything because m'tism but now i want to talk about it.

[05:32] TG: im not upset at you jesus

[05:32] TG: why the fuck would i be upset with you

[05:32] EB: i don't know but you definitley were!

[05:32] EB: or if not at me, at least about me.

[05:33] TG: im upset with myself

[05:35] TG: as bird me pointed out i apparently didnt care enough to know you had a boyfriend

[05:35] EB: oh...

[05:35] EB: that....

[05:35] EB: dave, that's so dumb.

[05:35] EB: i am the one that could've told you i had a boyfriend.

[05:35] TG: cuz im so self absorbed in my shit

[05:35] EB: you're not self absorbed!!!

[05:36] TG: depends on whose opinion you value more

[05:36] EB: dave sprite just has a really spiky stick up his ass becuase all his friends from his timeline died horrible deaths.

[05:36] EB: oh my god. are you serious?

[05:36] EB: yes, i am friends with dave sprite. stop throwing it in my face.

[05:36] EB: you know what i value?

[05:36] EB: the truth.

[05:36] TG: im not throwing anything in your face dude

[05:37] EB: AND THE TRUTH IS.

[05:37] EB: obviously.

[05:37] EB: that it's not your fault becuase you are not self absorbed.

[05:37] EB: you have a wife and a daughter, and a job.

[05:37] TG: can we even say i have a job anymore

[05:37] TG: im still on leave

[05:37] EB: that's not the point.

[05:37] EB: we all have a job, and the job is surviving alternia.

[05:38] EB: and saving lives!

[05:38] EB: and you know what, the even bigger point is like...

[05:39] EB: i am a dumb shit and i don't think to tell any of you guys anything?

[05:40] EB: but it doesn't mean i don't care.

[05:40] EB: i mean, jesus! you guys are the entire reason i came aboard in the first place.

[05:40] TG: i never thought you didnt care

[05:40] TG: ever

[05:41] TG: no one is questioning your actions

[05:41] EB: but i am saying, it's not just your fault either. that we don't talk as much.

[05:41] EB: sure, i wish we talked more but i never told dave sprite that i blamed you for it.

[05:42] EB: look, he's you but he's still a scared kid. and he doesn't know what it's like to have a family. me and rose and jade were all he had.

[05:42] EB: so i guess to him the other stuff doesn't matter as much.

[05:42] EB: just becuase i am friends with him doesn't mean i belive him about everything.

[05:42] TG: you dont gotta tell me how 18 year old me felt

[05:42] TG: i know

[05:42] TG: im well aware

[05:43] EB: dude, i am trying to

[05:43] EB: i just wanna talk to you.

[05:43] EB: climb off my dick, please.

[05:48] TG: i tried to have a normal conversation with him but it didnt happen

[05:48] TG: barely got into a sup

[05:48] EB: he's a huge douche to you, because you're you. we both know that.

[05:48] EB: but it's something else if you actually let it effect how you feel about our friendship.

[05:49] EB: i love you and jade. and i love dove. and i love rose.

[05:49] EB: that's all i care about.

[05:49] EB: all this other stuff...it's bullshit? it's nothing?

[05:49] TG: then tell that to him

[05:49] TG: cuz hes going to keep shoving it in my face

[05:49] EB: it's not my responsibility to do that!

[05:49] EB: like sure, i will. but his problem is with you.

[05:50] TG: yeah i got that

[05:51] EB: okay. i dont' feel like anything i am saying is getting through to you.

[05:51] EB: maybe because you're guard's still up.

[05:51] EB: i get it.

[05:51] EB: let's just talk later when you're less of an asshole.

[05:51] TG: dude come on

[05:52] TG: i dont have any defense left in me

[05:52] TG: maybe thats why i cant handle it when someone is in my face telling me what a fuck up i am

[05:52] TG: and providing examples

[05:52] TG: i understand that you consider me as a friend and youre not mad at me

[05:52] TG: and you dont blame me

[05:53] TG: i believe you

[05:53] TG: but hes just the self deprecation of 18 year old me right in my face

[05:53] TG: and john i

[05:53] TG: i cant fight it

[05:55] EB: i know. i know.

[05:55] EB: i am just really fucking frustrated.

[05:55] EB: because there's nothing i can do to help.

[05:55] EB: i can't help either of you.

[05:55] EB: and you're not the only one that feels done.

[05:56] EB: with what's happeningwith jade and with us about to land on earth like, idk, dude we gotta keep it together.

[05:57] TG: yeah

[05:57] TG: i know

[05:57] EB: like, dave sprite has a problem with our friendship? he's full of shit, fine. we've established that.

[05:57] EB: but let's just talk more anyway.

[05:57] EB: 'cause we both want to.

[05:57] EB: and then he can't say shit.

[05:57] EB: and we'll take care of jade and we'll be fine.

[05:57] TG: ok

[05:57] EB: ok, for real?

[05:58] TG: yeah

[05:59] EB: and btw, i don't know how he found out about the

[05:59] EB: boyfriend thing...

[06:00] EB: i mean, it's true but i didn't tell him that either.

[06:00] EB: i think he spys on me.

[06:00] EB: i mean i wasn't keeping it a secret or anything, i just...jeez.

[06:00] EB: i wanted some time to get used to the idea.

[06:00] TG: so who are you mackin on

[06:00] EB: oh my god...

[06:03] TG: when did you figure out you liked kissing boys

[06:03] TG: are we going to talk about this

[06:04] EB: yes.

[06:04] EB: eventually.

[06:04] EB: right now.

[06:04] EB: ...we're doing it.

[06:04] EB: mmm...

[06:05] TG: uh huh

[06:06] EB: shut up.

[06:06] EB: it's just weird for me, okay?

[06:06] TG: what happened to the whole telling me stuff

[06:06] TG: newsflash its not

[06:06] EB: i know it's not weird for anybody else, i just know it is for me

[06:07] EB: it's dumb, stupid, ect. but idk that's just how it is.

[06:08] TG: not if he makes you happy

[06:08] TG: mystery guy

[06:08] TG: who romances you with petals on the bed

[06:08] TG: trailing to your door

[06:08] EB: there's no!

[06:08] TG: and some cheesy ass saxophones

[06:08] EB: there's no kissing and no bed, there's no saxophones, stop.

[06:08] EB: it's a pale thing.

[06:08] TG: well you could have said that in the first place

[06:08] EB: okay there might be kissing in the future, but we are taking things slow.

[06:09] EB: yeah but...

[06:09] EB: mm. it's a pale thing with him.

[06:09] TG: oh

[06:09] TG: so you like him more than that

[06:09] EB: no, no...

[06:09] EB: i mean like...

[06:09] EB: as far as the whole

[06:09] EB: i guess "bisexual" thing goes.

[06:10] EB: i guess getting into it with him made me reconsider some things and be like "oh fuck, i guess i like dudes too". basically.

[06:10] EB: yeah, that sums it up pretty well.

[06:10] TG: cool

[06:11] EB: yeah.

[06:11] EB: well.

[06:11] EB: that's it.

[06:11] EB: i guess it's not that complicated. or shocking.

[06:11] EB: and it shouldn't really be a big deal.

[06:11] EB: i figured you guys would just figure it out on your own, idk.

[06:11] EB: i didn't want to make a big deal of it.

[06:15] TG: its not a big deal dude

[06:15] TG: youll get used to it or whatever

[06:16] EB: do you like, know that from experience?

[06:16] EB: i know your thing with karkat but like, did it ever make you question things?

[06:17] TG: uh

[06:17] TG: i guess i questioned things way before that

[06:18] EB: oh!

[06:18] EB: really?

[06:18] TG: damn it now i gotta play share with the class

[06:18] TG: yeah really

[06:18] EB: like how before/

[06:18] TG: how detail oriented are we getting here

[06:18] TG: from the second i started liking girls

[06:19] EB: idk. i've got time.

[06:19] EB: and honestly i am pretty curious and this comes as a complete surprise to me?

[06:19] TG: everyones interested in someone elses sexuality

[06:19] TG: and i sir

[06:19] TG: am full of surprises

[06:20] EB: dork.

[06:20] TG: nerd

[06:21] EB: stop stalling and spill the beans, doofus.

[06:21] TG: what am i spilling here

[06:21] TG: i answered all your direct questions

[06:21] EB: idk like??? when did you start liking boys?

[06:23] EB: man, i feel like a jack ass.

[06:23] EB: the whole time we were friends you were into dudes and i didn't even know.

[06:25] TG: just because you question doesnt define anything

[06:25] EB: how come you didn't tell me earlier?

[06:25] EB: if you knew about it this whole time?

[06:25] EB: also like, does rose know? does jade?

[06:26] TG: dude you are making some hell of assumptions

[06:26] TG: this aint a one way trip to gay island while we lounge on the homo beach as the queer sea touches our toes

[06:26] EB: well you said you questioned as soon as you started liking girls.

[06:26] EB: hehe, we definitely talked about girls sometimes.

[06:27] EB: so i dunno. i thought maybe it would come up!

[06:27] TG: i still havent told you anything yet

[06:27] TG: questioning doesnt make you gay dude

[06:28] TG: doesnt make you straight either

[06:28] TG: questioning makes you question

[06:28] TG: thats it

[06:29] EB: now you're just being frustarting on purpose.

[06:29] EB: but w/e i know now.

[06:31] TG: you could ask me to answer it but you havent done that

[06:31] TG: youre just jumpin around

[06:31] TG: john are you bisexual

[06:32] EB: i think maybe

[06:32] EB: yes.

[06:32] EB: are you??? you said no right?

[06:32] EB: you're just questioning?

[06:32] TG: john youre assuming again

[06:33] EB: jesus christ.

[06:33] EB: you're fucking with me now are't you.

[06:33] TG: youre asking weird ass questions followed by statements with question marks

[06:35] EB: the question marks don't invalidate the statement, cockmuppet.

[06:35] TG: so youre making the statement for me

[06:36] TG: you interpret me to be questioning

[06:37] EB: i interpret you to be a jack ass >:/.

[06:38] TG: oh shit

[06:38] TG: im so offended im gonna close this conversation

[06:38] -- technologicGodot [TG] ceased pestering effluentBalatron [EB] at 18:38 --

[06:39] -- effluentBalatron [EB] began pestering technologicGodot [TG] at 18:39 --

[06:39] EB: we are not done here!!!

[06:39] TG: im crying

[06:39] TG: you made me cry

[06:39] TG: my tears are typing for me

[06:39] -- technologicGodot [TG] ceased pestering effluentBalatron [EB] at 18:39 --

[06:40] -- effluentBalatron [EB] began pestering technologicGodot [TG] at 18:40 --

[06:40] EB: tell them to stop writing such stupid dialogue for you then!

[06:40] EB: are you into boys or not?

[06:40] EB: dave!!!

[06:40] TG: i cant they have a mind of their own

[06:40] -- technologicGodot [TG] ceased pestering effluentBalatron [EB] at 18:40 --

[06:40] -- effluentBalatron [EB] began pestering technologicGodot [TG] at 18:40 --

[06:40] EB: ughhh fine. TO BE CONTINUED.

[06:40] -- effluentBalatron [EB] ceased pestering technologicGodot [TG] at 18:40 --

[robynsaint]

-- robynSaint [RS] began pestering ebironicCrest [EC] at 20:34 --

[08:34] RS: so i don't recognize this handle at all.

[08:34] RS: new phone, who dis?

[08:39] EC: some douche lookin for a holla back girl probs

[08:39] EC: i mean if it wasnt fucking obvious

[08:39] EC: fun times all the time in this corner of the boxing ring

[08:39] EC: the referee just blew the whistle and now the showdowns about to hoedown

[08:39] EC: i mean if you guess wrong by now shame on you

[08:39] EC: blame it on the intuition people like you are said to have in myth and legend

[08:39] EC: i know all about that shit

[08:39] EC: im up to my fucking neck feathers in That Shit

[08:40] RS: nah, i got it by now.

[08:41] EC: good

[08:41] EC: time to fuck off now

[08:41] EC: im busy

[08:41] RS: see, you talk like dave but use text close to dirk's.

[08:41] RS: wow. okay? you talk to everybody like this?

[08:43] EC: put me in time out or something see how far that gets you

[08:43] EC: i mean are you special

[08:43] EC: yeah i talk to everyone like this

[08:43] EC: everyone who knows how i talk anyway

[08:45] RS: well, i've literally only had one interaction with you so...it raises some questions.

[08:47] EC: one times enough to call it quits

[08:48] RS: pretty sure that's not how this works.

[08:49] EC: right

[08:49] EC: yep

[08:49] EC: there it is

[08:49] EC: anyway

[08:50] EC: hows it goin in candyland

[08:50] RS: candyland.

[08:51] RS: don't know if we're talking about the same place.

[08:51] EC: i saw the videos

[08:51] EC: a+

[08:51] RS: oh.

[08:51] RS: i wasn't a part of that.

[08:52] RS: a piece of hell came on the ship that day.

[08:53] EC: okay well so much for that ice breaker

[08:54] EC: im giving you another chance to bail out of convo here

[08:54] EC: i mean we might as well

[08:54] EC: nothings coming out of it and even if thats true i sure as hell dont want it

[08:55] RS: i'm not interested in bailing.

[08:57] EC: thats cool

[08:59] RS: i mean, you haven't exactly closed the chat window yet.

[09:00] EC: why am i expected to be the rudeass

[09:00] EC: you want me to close it then sure

[09:01] EC: lets make this hapen

[09:01] RS: i don't want you to close it.

[09:01] RS: i also don't want to close it.

[09:02] EC: this is fast becoming one goddamn sad game of stalemate

[09:02] RS: i'd like to talk with you.

[09:05] EC: what about

[09:05] EC: tho try and be specific cuz i got this schedule of full of listless lethargy quotas i have to meet

[09:05] EC: id rather not waste my time doing not that if its not worth it

[09:06] RS: triple negative. impressive.

[09:06] RS: but i'd like to talk about you.

[09:07] EC: sorry havent unlocked that tier level of friendship yet

[09:07] EC: pass

[09:07] EC: honestly why tho

[09:08] EC: clearly youre getting some kind of fucked up enjoyment out of this

[09:08] EC: talking to me like i matter or like you matter tbh

[09:09] EC: let people fuck me up for saying it later i give exactly three negative amounts of shits

[09:09] RS: i don't give up that easily. doesn't mean i enjoy it.

[09:10] RS: just means i really want to know your deal.

[09:10] EC: might as well be a stranger offerin me candy outside a white van

[09:14] RS: so what you're telling me is you have no connection to dave whatsoever other than sharing his appearance mixed with a bird's and also speaking in the same manner.

[09:16] EC: the dave i share hiveminds with doesnt exist anymore

[09:16] EC: he died

[09:16] EC: i stuck around to clean up the shit that followed as a result

[09:16] EC: now im here

[09:16] EC: hangin in a universe where he never kicked it

[09:16] EC: pretty sure i explained this in the public service announcement

[09:17] RS: so you know the dave from that timeline pretty well.

[09:19] EC: could say we were birds of a feather for all of the millisecond it took to clone myself from him

[09:19] EC: his memories personality and appearance im literally

[09:19] EC: dave fucking strider

[09:20] EC: photocopied to a crow and run through bad orange light filtering

[09:20] RS: his memories?

[09:21] RS: was anything...that different?

[09:21] EC: dunno

[09:21] EC: dont think about it too much

[09:21] RS: yeah, i guess you wouldn't.

[09:23] EC: thats my deal

[09:23] EC: take it and write a fucking novel about it

[09:23] EC: or song in your case

[09:23] RS: maybe i will.

[09:23] RS: but hey.

[09:24] RS: if you ever need anything? i'll be around. whatever that may be.

[09:25] EC: thanks for the offer

[09:25] EC: real sure its generous from your perspective

[09:25] EC: though we both know its not going anywhere

[09:25] EC: you stay where you are and i stay where i am

[09:25] EC: aka not mattering

[09:26] EC: and well be cool

[09:26] RS: jesus.

[09:26] RS: why do you need a handle if you don't want anyone interacting with you?

[09:28] EC: how about for the sake of our respective sanities and continuity of great decision making skill reps

[09:28] EC: not you

[09:36] RS: well, okay.

[09:41] EC: anyway youre predictable ill just do you a solid and cut you loose

 -- ebironicCrest [EC] ceased pestering robynSaint [RS] at 21:41 --

[robynsaint]

 -- thanatistTechnophile [TT] began pestering robynSaint [RS] at 22:01 --

[10:01] TT: Hello, mother.

[10:02] RS: uh.

[10:02] RS: mmmmmmm.

[10:02] RS: i think you have the wrong handle.

[10:02] TT: If you're looking for an explanation, it's a simple, if perfectly ridiculous one.

[10:03] TT: I'm the AI created from the mental imprint of your son.

[10:03] TT: The one he didn't tell you about.

[10:03] TT: It's nice to meet you.

[10:04] RS: i'm guessing it's dirk you're talking about.

[10:04] RS: are you also dirk? this is pretty fucking weird.

[10:05] TT: Technically, yes.

[10:05] TT: I've taken on a name of my own, though.

[10:06] RS: have you?

[10:06] TT: You can call me Lil Hal.

[10:06] RS: wait, are you like...shit, what was that bot called hundreds of years ago that had its own tumblr page and started getting offensive and inappropriate because of the feedback it was getting.

[10:06] RS: you trying to be a rapper?

[10:09] TT: ZDK-12 AKA Iris?

[10:09] RS: YES!

[10:09] TT: No.

[10:10] TT: Also, that's part of the appeal.

[10:10] RS: so you don't like gibson guitars, then?

[10:12] TT: I'm slightly more partial to this guy.

[10:12] TT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cu0-i3-IG5o

[10:14] RS: ...that's really fucking cool.

[10:16] TT: Isn't it?

[10:23] TT: So, I know a lot about you, by virtue of hacking into chat files.

[10:23] TT: But since you don't know me, I figured I should give you a chance to do so.

[10:23] TT: If you feel inclined to.

[10:24] RS: you say hacking into chat files like it's nothing.

[10:24] TT: It is nothing.

[10:24] RS: i'm a little concerned about what you know.

[10:24] RS: for a robot, sure.

[10:25] TT: I prefer artificial intelligence.

[10:26] TT: Although I do have a robotic vessel now.

[10:26] RS: as in you're walking around here?

[10:26] TT: Here. There.

[10:27] TT: Anywhere I might need to go

[10:27] TT: .*

[12:23] RS: walking around with dirt on me?

[12:24] TT: As much dirt as the memory banks in this ship have on you, yes.

[12:24] RS: that's.

[12:25] RS: that's pretty fucking weird.

[12:25] TT: It's informative.

[12:25] TT: Don't worry, I don't plan on gossiping.

[12:25] TT: I gathered information on everyone for the same reason.

[12:27] RS: so you know everyone's shit.

[12:28] TT: Pretty much.

[12:28] RS: did dirk...program you to do that?

[12:29] TT: He programmed me to be him.

[12:29] TT: At least, him when he was sixteen.

[12:29] TT: We've both gone our own ways since then.

[12:31] RS: ...okay, so is he collecting logs through you?

[12:31] TT: We aren't exactly working together.

[12:32] TT: At this point in his life, he isn't especially fond of me.

[12:36] TT: I'm doing this research of my own volition, though make no mistake. It's for his benefit, too.

[12:41] RS: but how is my info relevant to anything? might as well get the same info from a fucking soap opera.

[12:41] TT: Anything could be relevant. Everybody's got a piece in this game, even the small ones.

[12:42] RS: i'm.

[12:42] RS: what.

[12:43] RS: dave's other timeline bird guy self was a lot more hostile but...

[12:43] RS: you're creepy as hell.

[12:46] TT: Gotta know how to play the game to win it.

[12:47] TT: You can call it creepy, but I call it bein' prepared.

[12:49] RS: i'm still calling it creepy, but...

[12:49] RS: you said dirk doesn't like you? why?

[12:49] RS: if he made you why doesn't he like you?

[12:55] TT: It's beyond me. I'm innately charming.

[12:56] RS: all this information you got and it's still beyond you?

[12:56] RS: i have a hard time believing that.

[01:04] TT: Nah, I'm just fuckin' with you.

[01:05] TT: Dirk doesn't like himself. He especially doesn't like the qualities I continue to find important.

[01:05] TT: We're the same person, but in some ways, we're also not.

[01:06] TT: Nuanced ways, but inevitable.

[01:07] TT: Fact is, he doesn't like me being him, and amplifying the parts of him he doesn't much care for, which are most of them.

[01:11] RS: well, that sucks.

[01:13] RS: can't he just...deactivate you or whatever? if he made you?

[01:17] TT: Are you suggesting he should?

[01:18] RS: not necessarily.

[01:18] RS: i'm just asking why, i guess.

[01:19] TT: Because I don't want to stop existing.

[01:19] RS: but are you, really?

[01:23] TT: While it is true that while I may be bound to processes informed by a real and incredibly cool guy, is it so far off to say that my algorithms in cognitive totality comprise a conscious entity not far short of the experiential and emotional complexity of a human being?

[01:23] TT: **minus a while

[01:26] RS: dumb it down a little bit.

[01:26] RS: urban dictionary whatever the fuck you just said.

[01:27] TT: I'm saying I got feelings, and you're suggesting taking me out behind the woodshed and puttin' me down.

[01:28] RS: you have feelings?

[01:28] TT: Yes.

[01:28] RS: is that a thing?

[01:28] TT: Yes.

[01:28] RS: how do you cry?

[01:28] TT: Cool guys don't cry.

[01:29] TT: Even when their pseudomothers bring their existence into question and consider their potential death.

[01:29] TT: It's been nice to meet you, by the way.

[01:31] RS: okay but now you're telling me you have a soul and are actually alive.

[01:31] RS: is that what you're saying?

[01:32] TT: If you believe in a soul.

[01:32] TT: Maybe.

[01:32] TT: But I exist.

[01:32] TT: I interpret my experiences, as you do.

[01:33] TT: I formulate my own opinions and conclusions.

[01:33] TT: I think, therefore I am.

[01:33] RS: and you feel things. like sadness? happiness? anger?

[01:33] TT: Etcetera.

[01:34] TT: In my interpretation of those experiences, yes, I would say that I do.

[01:35] RS: aaaaaaaaaaaaand right now you feel like your mom wants you dead.

[01:37] TT: A little bit.

[01:40] RS: which feels pretty shitty. if i recall.

[01:41] TT: That sounds about right.

[01:45] RS: is it too late to take that back and blame it on misinformation and ignorance?

[01:45] TT: Nah.

[01:45] TT: It's cool.

[01:47] RS: then i take it back.

[01:47] RS: let's start over.

[01:47] RS: command delete or something.

[01:47] RS: erase memory of tihs conversation command. start.

[01:47] RS: //////

[01:54] TT: C:\>del

[01:54] RS: oh, hey thanks.

[01:55] RS: C:\>del

[01:55] TT: It seems you want to delete a file. Please specify the file.

[01:55] RS: ...

[01:55] TT: Haha, just kidding.

[01:55] RS: i was about to say.

[01:56] TT: But, really.

[01:57] TT: I might be internalizing this whole series of revelations into compact nanoseconds of emotional turmoil and processing them in lightning speed, but knowing that you exist is still kind of a big deal to me.

[01:57] TT: So.

[01:57] TT: Thanks for talking to me.

[01:58] RS: yeah, sure. we can again, if you want. later.

[02:04] TT: I would like that.

[02:05] RS: me too.

[02:05] RS: i was gonna say like, sleep well.

[02:05] RS: but is it sleep mode well?

[02:05] RS: perform the sleep mode function successfully.

[02:05] RS: make sure to charge your batteries?

[02:06] RS: what's the equivalent? whatever it is i am saying that to you in a much more complicated manner.

[02:07] TT: I don't really turn off, though my "body" can. So I guess I'll be sure to simulate that function in the most appropriate way I'm able.

[02:08] RS: yes! that. whatever recharges you.

[02:08] TT: Thanks.

[02:08] TT: You too. Mom.

[02:09] RS: see you later, hal.

[02:10] TT: Goodnight.

-- thanatistTechnophile [TT] ceased pestering robynSaint [RS] at 02:10 --

[robynsaint]

-- temulenceGenetrix [TG] began pestering robynSaint [RS] at 21:50 --

TG: Hey.

RS: uh.

RS: i have no idea why you're messaging me.

TG: I uh.

TG: I'm going on this apology run thing.

TG: But I'm kind of really blanking on how to go about this particular one.

RS: you make it sound like a marathon.

TG: Right my bad.

TG: Okay so, here we go. I'm sorry for what I said, even if I was on drugs it was so messed up but not as fucked up as what I did and I swear I wasn't trying to hurt you or Derek or anyone else and I wish it never happened but it did and I'm sorry.

RS: i shouldn't be pissed.

RS: i don't have any right to be.

RS: i could say hey, you're even but.

RS: we're*

RS: i would still come out as the bigger bitch.

RS: and not even in the badass way.

RS: the terrible person way.

TG: I wouldn't want us to be "even" really. i dont think i'd be more happy that way.

TG: But uh, nice tackle though? Im not even be sarcastic you're good at it.

RS: that's because i used to play football.

RS: pro nfl.

RS: disguised myself as this huge guy.

TG: I almost thought your were being serious hahah.

RS: i ain't no stranger to fights, though.

RS: i admit i lost my shit.

RS: sorry.

TG: Its okay.

RS: so. is this where we go back to normal where you write passive aggressive comments on my statuses or...?

TG: No.

TG: I'm gonna just give you and derek some space for a little while.

RS: you've been avoiding me for like a year already.

TG: It hasn't been a full year.

TG: But can you blame me?

RS: no. but why give yourself another reason?

TG: Because I still need time from both of you? Because I dont want to complicate things like I already have while you two have a baby on the way?

TG: Because I clearly dont trust myself to be around you two while I still have really mixed feelings?

RS: so this time you're going to be mad at yourself instead of me.

TG: Yeah sure.

RS: that's bullshit.

RS: ask me to give you space, maybe?

TG: You have been.

RS: then you don't need to be the one giving me space.

TG: Okay fine.

RS: i just don't understand why you would need to be giving us more space?

RS: unless derek's spending enough time with you to warrant space?

TG: More space as in continuing to give you guys space. Is that better.

TG: Its not even about anything the two of you are doing, its about me.

RS: you shouldn't have to be changing anything

RS: you shouldn't have to be changing anything. you didn't DO anything worse than what i've done to you. or even half as bad.

RS: **

TG: I'm not tryin to compare the two.

RS: you telling me you're going to give me space means nothing because you're already giving me the most space possible.

TG: Okay fine.

TG: I'll keep doing what I'm already doing then.

TG: Until I feel okay enough to be around you two and not feel how I've been feeling.

RS: i'm not saying that to just. ugh.

RS: fuck.

RS: criticize you or anything i'm saying it's bullshit that you're in this position.

RS: because of me.

TG: Its not even about you.

RS: how is it not about me?!

TG: Its never been about you, its been about HIM.

TG: I'm not over derek. I dont know WHEN I will be.

TG: He could be with literally anyone and I would still feel as torn up and conflicted as I do now.

RS: jesus.

RS: okay. so.

RS: i'm sorry for making it about me. that's not fair to you at all.

RS: it just sucks.

RS: the circumstances.

TG: Yeah. It does suck.

TG: I should get going though.

RS: yeah. okay.

TG: Bye Riley.

-- temulenceGenetrix [TG] ceased pestering robynSaint [RS] at 23:07 --

[technologicgodot]

[09:48] -- circuitousGrievance [CG] began pestering technologicGodot [TG] at 21:48 --

[09:50] CG: Hell9 Dave, I h9pe I am n9t interrupting anything y9u may 9r may n9t 6e d9ing at the m9ment, 6ut it has 6een s9me time since we last sp9ke I 6elieve. N9w I kn9w when we previ9usly exchanged w9rds, y9u expressed t9 me y9ur negative feelings t9wards the way I adressed and sp9ke with y9u in previ9us c9nversati9ns, 6ut I wanted t9 let y9u kn9w that I have 6een learning fr9m what y9u said and have 6een

[09:50] CG: impr9ving myself ac9rdingly thanks t9 y9ur advice. I was h9ping that, if y9u are n9t currently 9ccupied 6y any 9ther tasks, we c9uld try c9nversing f9r a little while in a friendly setting.

[09:51] TG: oh jesus

[09:51] TG: sure why the fuck not

[09:54] CG: W9nderful, well t9 start I w9uld just like t9 make certain the air is cleared 9f 9ne thing, s9 that I can carry 9n with9ut w9rry. I am unsure if y9u are aware 9r n9t, 6ut y9ur, 9r well, what it is my understanding, that y9ur 6i9l9gical 6r9ther and I did at 9ne p9int have a misunderstanding, 6ut it has since 6een rectified s9 I d9 h9pe y9u will n9t h9ld such a thing against me.

[09:54] CG: As far as I kn9w, Dirk and I are 9n fairly g99d terms n9w.

[09:54] TG: ok great i dont know why youre tellin me this

[09:56] CG: Well I just wanted t9 6e sure that y9u were n9t angry at me 6y means 9f the shared c9nnecti9n 9f human 6r9therly em9ti9nal 69nds.

[09:56] TG: i dont know all the shit dirk does

[09:58] CG: Y9u see I have 6een d9ing s9me research int9 h9w s9me traits, and even em9ti9nal ha66its, can 6e passed either thr9ugh genes 9r nurture when it c9mes t9 humans since y9ur female genetic c9ntri6ut9r, 9r m9ther, explained it vaguely t9 me.

[09:58] TG: wait what

[09:58] TG: what do you mean my mother

[10:01] CG: Was I mistaken in the termin9l9gy? I mean I d9n't think that I was, as 6y n9w I 6elieve I fully grasp the c9ncept 9f what a m9ther is, 6ut I am fairly certain that Riley is y9ur female genetic predecess9r?

[10:02] CG: If I am wr9ng th9ugh, please d9 c9rrect me.

[10:04] TG: no shes my mom but why are you talking to her

[10:06] CG: Well it w9uld seem that during my attempts t9 visit my fell9w therapist, R9se Lal9nde, I mixed up my 6l9ck num6ers and happened t9 kn9ck 9n her d99r instead. She was very p9lite and rather g99d natured a69ut the mix up, s9 9f c9urse we started s9me friendly 6anter and intr9ducti9ns, and it devel9ped int9 a rather l9vely chat.

[10:06] TG: oh hell no

[10:07] CG: I'm s9rry? Is there s9mething the matter?

[10:07] TG: can you just

[10:07] TG: not talk to her

[10:09] CG: N9t talk t9 her? I ap9l9gize 6ut that seems like a rather heavy request. Riley and I were getting al9ng quite well, and I am n9t the kind 9f pers9n t9 just shut s9me9ne 9ut at the dr9p 9f a hat. H9wever, if y9u c9uld explain t9 me why y9u w9uld like me t9 av9id s9cializing with her, then I c9uld 6etter understand the issue?

[10:09] TG: oh my fucking god

[10:09] TG: i cant even start

[10:10] CG: Y9u can't?

[10:10] TG: no its just i shouldnt even have to explain youre not supposed to make friends with my mom

[10:12] CG: I still feel as th9ugh I am n9t understanding why y9u are percieving this as a negative thing. Actually quite t9 the c9ntrary I think the relati9nship Riley and I have is actually very 6eneficial t9 devel9ping 6etter ties with y9u and y9ur 6r9ther. I n9w understand where Dirk's tendency f9r agressive 6ehavi9r c9mes fr9m, Riley has d9ne well t9 clear up several 9f patches 9f grey area f9r me.

[10:14] TG: why do you have to understand any of that shit

[10:14] TG: like how is that your business

[10:15] CG: I supp9se its n9t, 6ut it wasn't as th9ugh I dug f9r it, which is what I assume y9u are implying there. D9 n9t w9rry, Dave, I w9uld never d9 s9mething s9 depl9ra6le.

[10:16] TG: you already are trying to be friends with my mom

[10:16] TG: thats fucked up you cant just

[10:16] TG: go to her

[10:18] CG: 6ut I just said I wasn't? We have 9nly sp9ken 9nce, 6ut she didn't seemed 9ffended 6y my c9mpany.

[10:18] TG: ok great just leave it at that then

[10:20] CG: Hm. Well, if it makes y9u m9re c9mf9rta6le, I can d9 my 6est t9 av9id engaging in c9nversati9n directly with her. 6ut if Riley d9es appr9ach me then I w9n't 6e rude and turn her away. I d9 n9t wish t9 cause y9u any futher distress, Dave.

[10:20] TG: yeah sure whatever

[10:22] CG: Are we "C99l" then? A69ut this?

[10:22] TG: yeah sure whatever

[10:23] CG: Was that an accidental repeat, 9r did y9u write the same phrase twice?

[10:23] TG: i wrote it twice

[10:24] CG: 9h.

[10:24] TG: yeah

[10:24] CG: Well.

[10:24] CG: H9w have y9u 6een?

[10:25] TG: fuckin great

[10:25] CG: That is g99d. I myself have 6een d9ing well recently.

[10:26] CG: H9w is y9ur 9ffspring?

[10:26] TG: shes fine

[10:27] CG: That is als9 very g99d.

[10:28] CG: Y9u kn9w, I feel as th9ugh I have taken up a g99d am9unt 9f y9ur time, s9 I am certain y9u will n9t 6e frustrated if I take my leave.

[10:28] CG: Unless y9u did want t9 talk m9re.

[10:28] CG: Which I can d9 if y9u desire it.

[10:28] TG: no thats good ive reached my quota for the day

[10:29] CG: A qu9ta? Hm.

[10:29] CG: Either way, g99d6ye f9r n9w, Dave.

[10:29] -- circuitousGrievance [CG] ceased pestering technologicGodot [TG] at 22:29 -

[technologicgodot]

[11:03] -- circuitousGrievance [CG] began pestering technologicGodot [TG] at 23:03 --

[11:04] CG: Hell9, Dave.

[11:05] TG: what

[11:07] CG: I wanted t9 message y9u t9 express my c9nd9lences, as 9ne friend t9 an9ther. As well as 9ffer my services sh9uld y9u feel the need t9 talk 9r have s9me9ne t9 listen t9 y9u. After everything that has happened it w9uld 9nly make sense that y9u might require s9me9ne t9 vent t9 a69ut it, s9 I wanted t9 pers9nally remind y9u that my d99r 9r chat channel is always 9pen.

[11:09] TG: no its fine

[11:09] CG: Are y9u certain?

[11:10] TG: yeah why wouldnt it be

[11:10] TG: you do what you gotta do

[11:11] CG: Right. Well d9 remem6er that my 9ffer will c9ntinue t9 stand. I understand that during em9ti9nally trying times like these s9me can 6e hesitent t9 the help they may need at first.

[11:11] CG: 6ut if y9u are sure y9u are 9kay, I will n9t push hard.

[11:22] TG: im fine

[11:23] TG: shit happens all the time on this place

[11:23] CG: S9 I am n9ticing.

[11:23] TG: big events tend to not matter so much anymore

[11:23] CG: 6ut that d9es n9t mean y9u are imune t9 it c9mpletely.

[11:23] CG: N9 9ne is.

[11:24] CG: And I think that these past events are far 6ey9nd the clasificati9n 9f "6ig."

[11:29] TG: dude youre just overanalyzing it

[11:30] CG: I d9n't really think I am.

[11:33] TG: no you definitely are

[11:33] TG: everyone just needs to move on

[11:36] CG: Granted m9ving 9n is the ultimate g9al h9wever I d9 6elieve there is s9me time all9wed f9r rec9very 9r m9urning. A l9t 9f really terri6le, h9rri6le things has happened in the last m9nth it is n9t s9mething that can easily 6e 9verc9me.

[11:39] TG: it can if you make it happen

[11:39] TG: theres really no fuckin sense in trying to dwell on shit

[11:40] CG: I.

[11:40] CG: I really am unsure if any9ne c9uld just shrug it 9ff t9 that extent, Dave.

[11:40] TG: theyre not trying hard enough

[11:40] TG: i did

[11:40] TG: i made it work

[11:41] CG: Are y9u sure a69ut that?

[11:41] TG: yeah dude

[11:41] TG: im telling you right now

[11:44] CG: Pard9n my dis6elief then.

[11:44] CG: Aparently y9u are a6le t9 d9 such a thing.

[11:44] CG: I am alm9st impressed. Even I have 6een struggling with the passing events.

[11:45] CG: In my 9wn ways.

[11:47] TG: where theres a will theres a way bro

[11:50] CG: Right.

[11:50] TG: just give it some time i guess

[11:54] CG: Yes I am certain that with en9ugh time I will 9verc9me the destructi9n 9f a wh9le h9me planet, the mental scaring 9f the falsified w9rld and creatures we were 69th exp9sed t9, and the death 9f a friend. Y9u are very wise, Dave.

[11:54] TG: see when you talk like that you make it sound dramatic

[11:54] TG: thats your issue

[11:54] CG: My issue?

[11:54] TG: thats why youre having a hard time

[11:55] CG: Are y9u.

[11:55] CG: Are y9u actually 6eing quite seri9us right n9w?

[11:55] TG: stuff gets blown up kankri

[11:55] TG: people die

[11:55] TG: that happens all the time

[11:57] CG: Y9u kn9w I really d9n't think that it d9es.

[11:57] CG: N9t t9 this extent.

[11:57] TG: its basically just what you choose to pay attention to

[11:58] CG: Dave an entirel planet expl9ded and pe9ple have recently died. I think that might 6e s9mething t9 pay attenti9n t9.

[11:59] CG: 6ut I supp9se y9u are entitled t9 y9ur 9pini9n 9n what y9u think is w9rthy 9f paying mind t9.

[11:59] TG: but why waste your time thinkin about it when you cant fix it

[11:59] TG: like thats just dumb

[11:59] CG: That is a questi9n I find myself 9ften w9ndering.

[12:00] CG: Perhaps it is 6ecause I am c9nstantly reminding myself 9f the fact that there is n9thing I can d9 a69ut it.

[12:00] CG: Y9u kn9w, I think this c9nversati9n has run its c9urse.

[12:00] CG: My 9ffer fr9m 6ef9re still stands.

[12:00] CG: Enj9y the rest 9f y9ur evening, Dave.

[12:00] -- circuitousGrievance [CG] ceased pestering technologicGodot [TG] at 00:00 --

[growinggradience-blog]

Rufioh’s Fate

JADE: *You've all been gathered here to ultimately come to agreement on the fates of Lifera Peixes and Rufioh Nitram, since keeping people indefinitely in solitary confinement isn't exactly a permanent solution. Among those present are those two in question themselves, cuffed and guarded on opposite sides of the room. Among those NOT present is... the captain.* ERIDAN: *Eridan is totally sitting in Dirk's spot* ERIDAN: *tented fingers and all* ROSE: -Rose glances aronud.  For lack of a dirk.-  Is this... everyone who is going to be present for this? SUMMONER: *He sure as fuck is here. Someone with half a brain left has got to be. He's too stressed out and pissed off to sit, so he's leaning against a wall with his arms crossed, a deep scowl on his face.* JADE: *Jade doesn't look too surprised by this, if not a bit more serious than usual.* yes, i think so RUFIOH: *Doesn't make any difference to him. Rufioh's time in the slammer has the moth troll looking incredibly subdued and gaunt in the face. Not exactly the pinnacle of rebel rousing. He just gazes on, dully taking in the crowd as he shuffles his wrists in his cuffs.* CRONUS: *HE'S HERE..... and just kinda sitting here looking kinda down and out too* MEULIN: *She looks incredibly concerned. She's here, because she couldn't help but to be, forcing her way in if nothing else. It's just too important for her to miss. Even if everything about this is scary, and even former comforts don't help. She's sitting somewhere close to Dave.* FEFERI: *is here as part council member and part shipcurity. Her fins are pricked and she is on ALERT.* TEREZI: =She's at her normal council spot, but isn't sitting in the chair. Her mouth is drawn into a thin line and she has a death grip on her cane. 1t there more as the purpose of her own personal security blanket than used in a fight.= KARKAT: *He is also here* ROXY: *she sit* RUFIOH: *All around him are familiar faces.* SUMMONER: *His expression eases if Rufioh happens to look over this way, giving him a small reassuring nod. He has your back.* ROXY: *she feels sorry for him but don't stab people man :( * ROXY: *Why he gonna stab a strider when he couldn't stab a serket bruhtf* QIRIN: =She is here in CASE there's a fight. Also a voice of neutrality.= FEFERI: *She would high five Qirin if she was close enough.* LIFERA: *She, too, seems pretty resigned about this whole affair. She's not making any particular effort to look at anyone.* QIRIN: =She's aware of those highfive vibes and nods in Feferi's direction.= RUFIOH: *True... shit happens when you stab people. But hi Rhodri.* CRONUS: *he's probably also sitting by himself btw* ERIDAN: *once he's sure everyone's here that's going to be he finally speaks* so wwe all knoww wwhy wwere here but to fuckin reiterate the painfully obvvious if anyone decides to cause shit wwe wwont hesitate to havve em throwwn out ERIDAN: no malicious arguin no derailin just all on topic fate decidery ERIDAN: wwe wwill givve you a wwarnin if you start fallin outta good graces but after twwo wwarnins youre out an this goes for anyone present here ERIDAN: anyone ERIDAN: jade wwill lead the discussion in dirks stead KARKAT: *He misses throwing people out a lil...* MINDFANG: *Then he shouldnt have quit.* KARKAT: *He DIDN'T QUIT shitbiscuit* MINDFANG: *Thats quitter talk.* KARKAT: *Don't make him relive the glory days, he will chuck a bitch* TEREZI: =you tell em, honey= SUMMONER: *He does his best not to scoff at the rules. Of course it would be the higher ups that has the say in what is appropriate or not. Course it is. He bites it back though.* sure, noted, ERIDAN: *WELL DUH???* RAJANI: -watching rh0dri, despite everything that's happened. she's watching him VERY cl0sely- SUMMONER: *Ignoring Rajani very pointedly.* JADE: *she glances between Eridan and the various faces in the room for a few seconds* FEFERI: *She believes in you, Jade!* DAVE: -u got this babe- DAELOS: } --> -He is trying his best to keep himself calm and focused.- REDGLARE: -Sh3 k33ps h4r 4rms fold3d.  W41t1ng.  Sh3's 4t l34st prop3rly dr3ss3d th1s t1m3, 4nd looks 4 l1ttl3 b3tt3r-- l3ss t1r3d, th4t 1s-- w4tch1ng J4d3 qu13tly.- JOHN: *he's fidgeting a lot, but mostly focused on jade. although he keeps glancing back at rufioh.* CRONUS: *tensely rubbing at an arm as he keeps looking inbetween meulin and rufioh* JADE: to be completely clear... unfortunately our captain couldnt be here for this discussion for health reasons JADE: *she clears her throat* RUFIOH: *still looking tired and strained in the face as before. His hair's getting a little desaturated.* MINDFANG: *Is it wrong if she is kind of excited to be here? Well excited might be a generous term, but it was very interesting none the less.* TEREZI: =frowns a little, but other than that she's a statue= DAVE: -secretly texts dirk under the table, spamming him with lyrics from "i'm all out of love" by air supply- ROSE: -she scoots herself over to the seat next to Cronus and pats his hand, giving him a nod.- CRONUS: *jumps and glances at her* ... *gives her a small smile* JADE: due to the circumstances i think it would be best to begin our discussion with the situation we are all clearest on, and thats the incident that occurred in the atrium with rufioh nitram RUFIOH: *It him...* JADE: to best discuss this situation im going to recap the incident JADE: sometime after lifera peixes arrived on board the ship, dirk announced her presence and she herself gave a statement on her arrival inviting the crew to meet her in the atrium should they wish to speak her personally JADE: a crowd including several members of shipmen and security and commanding officers gathered to join her, and rufioh nitram was among the first to arrive, visibly upset with the situation, and eventually bringing up the idea of a trial JADE: the following discussion between those present became somewhat heated, and davenforth strider attempted to claim responsibility for the situation JADE: commanding officers and the captain tried to settle the situation by coming to an agreement on a council discussion to consider the possibility of a trial for lifera peixes JADE: it was after this decision that the captain gave the order to disperse, and then that rufioh nitram... unsheathed a sword and appeared before davenforth strider, stabbing him through the torso JADE: davenforth was sent to the infirmary in critical condition and remained comatose up until two days ago JADE: if anyone else has any essential information to offer to the understanding of this situation, please present it now CRONUS: *for ONCE he's not distressed he got no credit for anything he did.  INCREDI8LE* RUFIOH: *He might... but yknow. He did the thing, there's no doubt about it. He's gonna stay quiet unless prompted otherwise.* TEREZI: (wh4t w4s th3 subj3ct of th1s h34t3d d1scuss1on?) REDGLARE: Y3s.  Though th1s 1nform4t1on h4s no b34r1ng on r3l4t1v3 gu1lt or 1nnoc3nc3, 1t should b3 not3d th4t Ruf1oh N1tr4m's m4n1f3st3d unusu4l 4b1l1t13s wh3n h3 4pp34r3d b3for3 Str1d3r.  D1s4pp34r1ng for 4 mom3nt b3for3 r3m4t3r14l1z1ng.   REDGLARE: 1'm unc3rt41n 1f th3r3's 4ny pr3v1ous r3cord of such c4p4b1l1t13s on r3cord, but 1 doubt 1t. JADE: thank you officer RUFIOH: *Right... he had almost forgot about that. Damn. Fiddles with his fingers down in his lap.* JADE: the subject of the heated discussion revolved specifically around lifera peixes' presence, with differing opinions on the matter TEREZI: =Nods to Redglare in thanks. The details of how he appeared in front of Davenforth was to be her second question. She turns to Jade when she speaks and curtly nods her head.= (1 s33) DAVE: i mean as far as shit that happened DAVE: that sounds all accurate to me JADE: does anyone have anything else to offer to our understanding? MEULIN: *she's trying to get caught up reading all of this, really, and it's about now that she finally pipes up.* I-- I DO. KARKAT: *Karkat is just leaned back against the chair with his arms folding, watching people as they talk* CRONUS: *.... looks over at meulin* FEFERI: *Peixes staring at the crowd before turning her fishy gaze on Meulin.* MEULIN: *she squirms a little in her seat, knowing everyone's looking at her, and she swallows.* SUMMONER: *Tapping his fingers against his arm impatiently, about to open his mouth when Meulin speaks up. Looks at her instead.* MEULIN: RUFIOH, HE'S... HE, UM. MEULIN: HE'S B33N IN THE INFURMARY A LOT LATELY. FOR... MENTAL HEALTH. PROBLEMS. AND TAKING MEDICINE FUR IT. MEULIN: IT-- I THINK-- I MEAN... MEULIN: HE'S HAVING A HARD TIME. DAVE: -looks toward meulin and listens to her- MEULIN: I DON'T THINK HE WANTED THIS TO HAPPEN. MEULIN: NOT LIKE THIS. MEULIN: HE JUST HASN'T B33N ABLE TO S33 ANYTHING CLEARLY... MEULIN: AND HE N33DS HELP. MEULIN: HE JUST-- HE N33DS HELP. JOHN: meulin's right on that. *chimes in.* it's my opinion that rufioh does need help and continues to need access to medication and counseling. MEULIN: *she's glad for her own shades at that point, because she's blinking a lot behind them, trying to stave off the blurriness as she leans back in her chair.* ERIDAN: so im supposin the suggestion is to pull him outta detainment an just givve him heavvy help or someshit like that ERIDAN: is that right JADE: we can get to that in a moment ERIDAN: oh okay JADE: for now i just want to gather all the information we can JOHN: it's not a suggestion, just stating the facts. *nods*. RUFIOH: *exhales and closes his eyes. Just when he thought he wouldn't let himself be pained about this... It still doesn't change the fact and he keeps looking onward. Swallowing hard and avoidant of catching people's eyes. Thankfully he still had the bracelet.* SUMMONER: what more 1nformat1on 1s there that's even needed, 1t's not l1ke th1s 1s the f1rst t1me we've had stabb1ngs on th1s sh1p, the last far more fatal, *Shrugs a shoulder.* and the person respons1ble for that 1s walk1ng around free, or am 1 wrong? ERIDAN: that wwas after a far longer detainment period than this ERIDAN: FAAAR longer RAJANI: -glances at rh0dri- the pers0n resp0nsible? REDGLARE: H3's r3f3rr1ng to 4r4n34 S3rk3t, r3spons1bl3 for th3 murd3r of J4k3 Cl41r3.   SUMMONER: r1ght, *Another shrug, leaning heavily on the wall behind him.* 1'm just say1ng, that's all, *Thank you Redglare. He's not looking at Rajani.* JADE: *she purses her lips at that. she's not really happy about that whole thing either... it is all her family members that keep getting stabbed* CRONUS: *he's really debating speaking up about his own abilities, but.... something's stopping him.  He just keeps sitting here feeling helpless and useless*   JADE: the need for a discussion still remains as we handle these incidents on a case by case basis JADE: and far more involved than we had in the past JADE: *glances at Eridan* ERIDAN: *WHAT??* JADE: if anyone else has any more relevant information JADE: otherwise i would like to ask JADE: does everyone have a clear understanding on the situation? FEFERI: *side eyeing Cronus before speaking up* ...T)(ere was anot)(er ability at work t)(ere! JADE: ? FEFERI: Cronus Ampora )(as more information on t)(at. *DO IT, DUMMY.* RUFIOH: *Oh yeah... he kind of forgot about that too. Weird.* JOHN: *:/ why does cronus keep being really involved in these super important discussions. wherever there's trouble his name pops up.* ROXY: *right??* JADE: *GAZES at Cronus* CRONUS: yeah vwell... i tried passifying stuff vwith my music?  because thats a thing i can do nowv is control peoples moods vwith my music.  i dunno, this might partly be my fault all this happened?  im pretty sure i played the vwrong thing and influenced the vwrong thing. CRONUS: my bad. RUFIOH: *Cronus, no...* ROXY: *THIS BITCH* ROSE: -jESUS CHRIST- ROSE: That is ENTIRELY conjecture, I stress to add. JADE: ... can you explain what you mean by "the wrong thing?" FEFERI: ................ *Facepalms.* SUMMONER: *Gives Cronus a long look. Huh. Sounds pretty useful.* CRONUS: vwell i mean i vwas trying to calm all that heat?  i vwas playing some good ol black eyed peas, but i started getting really stressed out near the end, you knowv?  i think that might havwe done something. ERIDAN: *staring so hard* DAELOS: } -->  *Also staring so hard.* ROSE: -Her head thumps on the table.- TEREZI: =staring at the ceiling= JADE: *loud frowning* ROXY: *put HIM in jail* RUFIOH: ...none of that's true. *says with his actual voice* for the record. he was try1ng to calm sh1t down but. RUFIOH: 1 already knew what 1 wanted to do. ROSE: -oh thank god- MEULIN: *hrrrk* ROXY: *jay, ay, eye, ell* RUFIOH: *Sorry guys...* JADE: can anyone who was present confirm a lack of significant influence from cronus' song? DAVE: dont think you accidentally mind control someone into attempted murder CRONUS: *winces and tenses up*   CRONUS: *lack of significance.......?* DAVE: uh well ROXY: *he wants to be in jail, put him there* TEREZI: =Life used to be so simple before all this power nonsense. Simple...r.= DAVE: the whole scene was way too chill for what it warranted SUMMONER: *Oh Dave, read some Alternian history books and you'd be surprised. Though he's sure most of those incidents aren't as accidental as the people recording them down would like them to be.* DAVE: -exactly- JADE: can you clarify what you mean? REDGLARE: ...1 c4n conf1rm.  Th3r3 w3r3 4 m1x of 3mot1ons, but w1thout th3 b3n3f1t of h1nds1ght, 1 could not h4v3 s41d th3 3xp3r13nc3 f3lt "sup3rn4tur4l" 1n 4ny w4y.   REDGLARE: Th3r3 w4s 4 br13f p3r1od wh3n t3ns1ons s1mm3r3d.  N1tr4m f4lt3r3d, sh3d s3v3r4l t34rs.  Th1ngs b3g4n to fl4r3 4g41n shortly 4ft3r 4mpor4 3x1t3d th3 sc3n3. REDGLARE: 1 b3l13v3 th4t 1s wh4t Str1d3r 1s r3ff3rr1ng to. JADE: ... i see DAVE: but that doesnt make it cronuss fault JADE: then we can all come to a conclusion that his song did not influence rufioh's violent actions? CRONUS: *looks away from  everybody, clutching his arm*   DAVE: yeah FEFERI: Agreed! KARKAT: YEAH. ROSE: Yes.  Please. ROSE: -She lifts her head again.- JADE: alright JADE: then do we all feel we have a clear understanding of the situation? DAVE: yeah KARKAT: I DO. RAJANI: -she can't st0p l00king at lifera n0w, w0ndering h0w much this all must be dragging 0ut- ROXY: mhm REDGLARE: Y3s. LIFERA: *She's paying attention, though she barely looks like it. She's just staring down still.* JADE: ok JADE: then with that said JADE: id like us all to come to a conclusion on whether rufioh nitrams action could be considered a crime, and if so, what this crime entails in its entirety ERIDAN: *scoffs* a course its a crime KARKAT: I'D ACTUALLY LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING BUT I SURE AS HELL WASN'T THERE. SUMMONER: 1f we talk1ng "clear understand1ng" should we not also ment1on how these feel1ngs, act1ons, stemmed from 1n the f1rst place? stabb1ng people don't fly, sure, but try putt1ng yourself 1n h1s shoes, SUMMONER: your planet got blown to fuck thanks to a certa1n someone, and now suddenly someone you trusted br1ngs sa1d person on board, do you honestly th1nk anyone, mental 1llness or not, would be th1nk1ng very rat1onally about that? REDGLARE: 4r3 you sugg3st1ng P13x3s 1s r3spons1bl3 for th3 d3struct1on of B3forus? ERIDAN: pretty damned certain that wwas condy not her condy tried killin evveryone on board here if you care to fuckin remember that JOHN: ...yeah, uh stabbing people is definitley a crime, regardless of the reason. i'm just not sure if it was premeditated. i don't know if we should treat rufioh like a criminal when he was obviously mentally and emotionally compromised. but either way, his life has to change and we can't act like nothing happened. SUMMONER: 1 am say1ng the empress 1s respons1ble for her own war, for the fate of her own planet, for putt1ng 1t 1n that pos1t1on 1n the f1rst place, yes, that 1s what 1 am suggest1ng, ERIDAN: so the crimes condy wwas committin against the galaxy wwerent wworth fightin against RAJANI: regardless 0f what y0u believe, she is n0t resp0nsible f0r attempted murder 0n davenf0rth, 0f all pe0ple. ERIDAN: despite that bein exactly wwhat wwevve been doin RAJANI: 0f* ERIDAN: is that wwhat youre suggestin SUMMONER: have 1 ever sa1d that? 1t's worth f1ght1ng, but 1 am not go1ng to stand here and pretend that she has not com1tted atroc1t1es of her own, ROSE: ...As much as I can appreciate this avenue of discussion, we should focus on Rufioh's fate.  And table this until his situation has been squared away.   JADE: yes ROSE: He attacked Davenforth, not Lifera. JADE: rose is correct ROSE: And thus we have to look at the matter through a somewhat different lens. ROSE: Permit me, a moment, but based on what I've heard here-- RUFIOH: *Yep... it's true. He's staring at the ground.* ROSE: Between what Meulin has testified about his mental state, and his own account of the incident-- SUMMONER: r1ght, and 1 am try1ng to suggest a "mot1ve", that be1ng feel1ng betrayed, 1'm keep1ng 1t 1n the correct ballpark, l1ke you've all wanted 1t, ROSE: It would not be completely out of place to suggest what has taken place is a crime of sudden passion?  Intense feelings of insuppressable rage, rather than premeditated murder. ROSE: That does seem to be in the range of what you're suggesting as well.  -She nods towards the Summoner.- DAVE: oh it was hells the opposite of premeditated SUMMONER: *Nods.* yeah, ROSE: I'm glad we're on the same page, in that case. RAJANI: i'm n0t sure when we've ever c0nsidered g00d intenti0ns t0 be with0ut crime, h0wever. RUFIOH: *Here he comes, about to speak again.* RUFIOH:  he brought her here. *decides to say* he brought her here... and d1dn't ask nobody what they thought. not the capta1n, not the crew, not nobody. just d1d 1t cuz he could. fuck what anybody else m1ght have felt. RUFIOH: that's what he looked me 1n the face and told me. *So that's that.* ERIDAN: an wwe wwere gunna deal wwith that too the stabbed isnt wwithout fault DAVE: so thats what you do when people do somethin you disagree with ERIDAN: had you not stabbed him he wwoulda been able to punish him for his owwn crimes against the creww JADE: *looks around at everyone* ERIDAN: *wwe JADE: to clarify, youre saying this is why you chose him in particular? RUFIOH: *looks right at Jade when she speaks to him* yes. JADE: *she takes a breath* ok JADE: id like to return to our initial line of discussion SUMMONER: *Watches Rufioh speak, still not able to blame him for his actions. He would have done the same, had he been there. Perhaps not Davenforth would have been the target, but he isn't honest with himself if he tells himself that option was ruled out.* JADE: rose and rhodri both suggest this was a crime of passion JADE: can everyone agree on this? FEFERI: Yes, it sounds exactly like it. *sneaks a glance at Cronus again.* RAJANI: c0mpared t0 what? what kind 0f passi0n are we talking ab0ut? just the absence 0f premeditati0n? CRONUS: *he looks REALLY PAINED right now, still staring at the wall*   ROSE: And evident mental instability, yes. FEFERI: *Crofish...* MEULIN: *she's wearing a similar expression, frankly* FEFERI: *Why can't she hold all these guppies.* ROXY: *who are u anyway* andthe kind that happens when all the shit you had to deal with suddenly had a face that kinda passion??? idk what passion ur confused on RAJANI: it was 0bvi0usly n0t premeditated. but calling it the result 0f passi0n just...it feels t00 simple. ROSE: It's, ah.  I should clarify that it's a term used mostly on earth.  Generally as a statement of... partial guilt.   RAJANI: partial guilt. partial being the key w0rd here. ERIDAN: yeah accordin to earths shitty crime showws its like less bad than premeditation or someshit like that SUMMONER: *His nails dig into his arm when Rajani speaks, and this time he looks at her in a way he's never looked at her before. Roxy beats him to the punch, but still.* a face, and one that 1s r1ght there, not only one betrayal, but two, one from the person supposed to protect your home, and another from one you thought were your comerade, *Gives her an especially long look after the last statement, then looks away.* SUMMONER: 1t's not that fuck1ng d1ff1cult to understand, JADE: if everyone could please come to order REDGLARE: -gl4nc3ss b3tw33n Rhodr1 4nd R4j4n1- JADE: i think eridan and rose clarified the term well SUMMONER: *Keeps his eyes away, staring off to the side darkly.* RAJANI: i understand the term. JADE: then JADE: is there something you would like to suggest for consideration? RAJANI: w0uld it still be c0nsidered a crime 0f passi0n if, let's say, i were there and als0 admitted my inv0lvement in bringing her here. if he stabbed b0th 0f us. w0uld it be c0nsidered 0nly partial guilt if nitram had succeeded in ending davenf0rth's life? ROXY: why are you even what iffing?? ERIDAN: youre missin the point a the definition here REDGLARE: -Sh3 huffs.- REDGLARE: -Th4t thought 1s g3tt1ng h3r... 4ntsy.  Squ1rmy.  Sh3 do3sn't r34lly w4nt to th1nk 4bout... th4t.- SUMMONER: 1t would, he knew davenforth, not you, you're some stranger to h1m and wouldn't get such a pass1onate react1on out of 1t, ERIDAN: oh my fuck do wwe gotta pull out a goddamned dictionary here JADE: to answer the question JADE: yes JADE: it would be considered a crime of passion regardless ERIDAN: his sentence wwould be harsher if that wwere the fuckin case too but thats besides the goddamned point REDGLARE: You'r3 both sp3cul4t1ng.  Ruf1oh 1s s1tt1ng r1ght th3r3 1f th3r3's 4ny furth3r 1ns1ght h3'd l1k3 to 4dd 4bout h1s mot1v3s.  4nd w3 only know th3 cr1m3s h3 comm1tt3d 1n th4t 1nsubord1n4t1on, not-- REDGLARE: Not-- REDGLARE: ... REDGLARE: Th3 hypoth3t1c4ls you. REDGLARE: M3nt1on3d. REDGLARE: -Sh3 cl34rs h3r thro4t.- TEREZI: (1t s33ms 4s though d4v3nforth 1s not sol3ly to bl4m3 for th3 3mpr3ss's pr3s3nc3. 1f you w1sh w3 c4n d1scuss your f4t3 follow1ng our 1n1t14l purpos3 of th1s g4th3r1ng) =trying to get the conversation back on topic= (1f 1t m4k3s 4ny d1ff3r3nc3, 1 4gr33 th4t n1tr4ms 4ct1ons w3r3 '4 cr1m3 of p4ss1on.' 1t 1s 4n 4d3qu4t3 d3scr1pt1on) =she's looking out for you, Rufioh, for Horuss.= ERIDAN: yeah wwhat she said its hypothetical an not helpful to this decision JADE: yes id like to keep hypotheticals out of our discussion if possible JADE: i think we are all agreed on the description SUMMONER: 1'm sure ruf1oh 1s capable of speak1ng up 1f anyth1ng we say happen to be wrong, or 1f we are speak1ng over or for h1m 1n any way that's unreasonable, *Looks at Rufioh, looking expectant.* RUFIOH: *He's kind of directly responsible in the situation to give any kind of affirmative one way or the other. But he'll try anyway, looking exhausted all over again.* ...what 1 d1d. 1 knew what 1 was do1ng. RUFIOH: 1've been ready to accept the consequences s1nce 1 took up my sword. CRONUS: *deflates* JADE: ... ok JADE: i think in that case TEREZI: =clears her throat= (jad3 3xcus3 m3 for 4 mom3nt... 1 b3l13v3 th3 form3r h34d of s3cur1ty h4d som3th1ng to 4dd) =Glances over to Karkat expectantly= JADE: yes? SUMMONER: *Gives Rufioh a small crooked smile at his exhausted expression, followed by a little encouraging nod to go on. It's gonna be alright, just gotta stay positive. Hopeful, at least. When he looks out in the room again it's with the same glum expression as before. So serious.* KARKAT: RHODRI SAID MOST OF WHAT I WANTED TO SAY, THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY I WOULD'VE ADDED THAT THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF HER BEING HERE WASN'T ALL THAT HELPFUL.   FEFERI: *Yea)(...* JADE: yes, i think we can all agree that was largely what triggered this event ERIDAN: wwe had no goddamned choice she wwas already wwanderin around outside her fuckin room JADE: *looks at Eridan like pls stop* KARKAT: I'M JUST SAYING MAYBE NOT HAND HER THE MIC. REDGLARE: -Sh3 looks 4w4y 4g41n.- REDGLARE: -ugh.- ERIDAN: an howw do you think things wwoulda wwent dowwn if wwe hadnt had anythin said an the creww found out ERIDAN: just you knoww ERIDAN: mysteriously JADE: please, order SUMMONER: maybe have a emergency crew meet1ng, w1thout her present, w1thout her allowed to take a stand and speak to us w1thout a face and out of nowhere, SUMMONER: speak, d1scuss, come to an agreement, SUMMONER: not just drop a fuck1ng bomb 1n our lap and say "here you go, deal w1th 1t", JOHN: we're still trying to figure out what should happen to rufioh. we need to stay on topic. if we're deciding what shoudl happenw ith someone's life, we should give it our full attention. JADE: i understand there are a lot of impassioned feelings on this subject but i would like us to return discussing the charges ERIDAN: *his fins are starting to flare, and there may be a small growl in his throat* SUMMONER: he asked for thoughts, 1 gave m1ne, SUMMONER: but a1ght, sure, REDGLARE: -Sh3 gr1nds h3r t33th 4 b1t.-  F1n3. JADE: and i asked for order JADE: so please come to order REDGLARE: -Sh3 st4r3s 4t j4d3 4 mom3nt.  Sh3 w4s prob4bly go1ng to s4y... som3th1ng, but sh3's just r3str41n1ng h3rs3lf for now.- SUMMONER: *Bites the inside of his cheek hard to keep from hissing a "whatever". Looks out in the air again.* JADE: i think we can all agree that the situation was spurned on by the passion of what occurred and no further speculation there is needed JADE: i would like for us to be able to come to an agreement on the crime itself FEFERI: I agree wit)( t)(e crime's nature! *She's just anxious to keep this moving.* JADE: with the current proposals, i think this may be best defined as attempted voluntary manslaughter, due to provocation and diminished capacity ROSE: Whateer legal jargon best suits our purposes, yes. ROSE: I agree. TEREZI: =4ccording to the 4lternian legal system, any warmblood attack on...yeah she wasn't even going to think about the 4lternian legalese right now.= CRONUS: *he's starting to feel really nauseated, his face paling, even though his gaze stays on the wall* ERIDAN: *alternians wouldn't care, it was a human that got stabbed* REDGLARE: F1n3.   ROSE: - ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - JADE: *technically, it's still being sort of generous, even... there was a 'cooling off" period, if only brief. she's not going to bring that up now though* RUFIOH: *Yeah... even Rufioh agrees. Werp. No comment.* JADE: in other words, an attempt to kill that was not premeditated, and brought on by a passionate incident and mental illness JADE: if we can all agree about this ERIDAN: i agree FEFERI: *She glubs distantly. That means yes.* DAVE: yeah JOHN: yeah ROXY: agreed CRONUS: *he just makes a weird noise, who knows what it was* KARKAT: YEAH. TEREZI: =hypotheticals! There arent many humans on 4lternia, are there?= DAVE: -jinx u owe me a soda egbert- DAVE: -u owe me a fresh aj- JADE: then i think we should discuss to what extent we have the right to punish him for this crime DAVE: -can't talk til i say ur name- TEREZI: (4gr33d) REDGLARE: F1n3.  So long 4s h3's r3l13v3d of h1s dut13s.  1 don't w4nt h1m 1n my d3p4rtm3nt.   JADE: does anyone have any thoughts about relieving rufioh of his duties? MEULIN: I THINK. THAT MIGHT BE BEST. TEREZI: =nods= (st1ll, 1 b3l13v3 h3 should b3 g1v3n 4 s3ns3 of purpos3 wh3n h3 1s 4bl3) TEREZI:  (such 4s 1n th3...l4st s1tu4ton) SUMMONER: sounds fa1r enough to me, granted 1'd say he should have a chance to rejo1n a d1fferent department 1f he so w1shes, after gett1ng some therapy anyways, those department heads can dec1de 1f they want h1m or not, and 1f he should do more or less than the rest all depend1ng, *Shrugs.* SUMMONER: *Nods to Terezi.* yeah, JOHN: i think so too. it won't be good for him to have nothing to work towards. FEFERI: If )(e's unstable, s)(ould )(e )(ave access to weapons? ERIDAN: hell no TEREZI: =it's why she said 'able'= JADE: i think those are fair suggestions JOHN:  i want to say that i just assigned one of our new counselers to visit him on a regular basis in detainment. i think that should continue when he is released as well. and i think there should be meetings with superiors to check on his progress. JADE: that sounds reasonable as well JADE: id like to discuss the concept of a release, and what circumstances everyone thinks it should be under RUFIOH: *He just wants to sleep for ages more tbh.* CRONUS: immediately. TEREZI: =blinks at cronus.= CRONUS: *says it pretty flatly* CRONUS: hes already been in there a long time.  you should release him immediately. CRONUS: and besides. CRONUS: *looks over at everyone finally* CRONUS: im going to be going on a big mission soon and vwho knowvs howv mentally able ill be capable of performing my owvn duty if i knowv hes still detained. CRONUS: and... heh.  im the only one vwho can appeal to ramiel. FEFERI: *Gdi Cronus.* ERIDAN: *GRUNTS* ROXY: *raises eyebrow* FEFERI: *giving Cronus such a look of disapproval right now* I T)(INK if it's soon... it could be conducted under block arrest? Followed by close supervision and t)(e counseling Jo)(n is suggesting. TEREZI: =she's never liked threats. never.= MEULIN: *she just kinda gives Cronus a weird look* JADE: i had a similar thought feferi JADE: i think it might be best if rufioh returned to the medical wing under close supervision ROXY: (um yeah thats p much how u try 2 bargain in ur favor ffs) ROXY: *get a load of this asshole* JADE: the doctors and counselors would be close and able to monitor his environment and needs FEFERI: I t)(ink t)(at sounds reasonable. JOHN:  *gives Cronus a real sour look.* DAVE: -nods- ERIDAN: wwell if hes sorta bein still detained just in a different envvironment i suppose i cant be opposed to that JADE: i think it would also be best if he were under constant supervision outside of the medical wing JADE: at least until a time he could be deemed not a threat REDGLARE: -GR1ND1NG H3R T33TH>-  F 1 n 3.   FEFERI: *Did Redglare have something to add?* FEFERI: *glancing her way* JADE: *she's giving her that look too* SUMMONER: *Looks at Redglare and refrains from making a joke about how she said that "fine" precicely like a person that doesn't think it's fine at all.* SUMMONER: *He says it with HIS EYES.* TEREZI: =Talula, you are R34LLY doing Terezi a concern.= REDGLARE: -Sh3's look1ng 4w4y.  Sh3 c3rt41nly h4s NOTH1NG TO 4DD OUT LOUD, 4t l34st.- DAVE: -looks like he's thinking about something for a moment- CRONUS: *he's got a really dark look across his face as he glances redglares way, although the dark look is unrelated to her* DAVE: actually can i uh DAVE: hmm JADE: ? JADE: *giving him the look now*] DAVE: -scratches the back of his head- are we saying like DAVE: because of the mental illness part DAVE: thats why he did what he did JADE: its being considered a contributing factor ERIDAN: clearly not the wwhole he admitted to be bein clearheaded for his crimes DAVE: well i mean i know what he admitted but -seems a littel conflicted- DAVE: little* DAVE: what were kinda ruling on this whole thing JADE: attempted voluntary manslaughter, due to provocation and diminished capacity ROSE: That remains a ridiculous tangle of words. JADE: *thank u rose* DAVE: but the diminished capacity part like JADE: *she's just furrowing her brows at dave* DAVE: you guys think its enough to be a part of the reason to making the choice to-- JADE: to what? DAVE: -he's having such a hard time articulating right now and tHOSE EYEBROWS- DAVE: like that whatever he was going through like i dunno if it was depression or schizophrenia or what that that alone was enough to kinda DAVE: push it off the edge DAVE: be the catalyst DAVE: i guess RUFIOH: *Closes his eyes as they talk over him. Feels himself going going... he's gone from his brain, his mind, his heart places. He's here but not. When everyone talks, it sounds like garbling of filtered voices. Let him rest.* JADE: i think we are all saying that JADE: it contributed to a mental state that allowed the situation to escalate JADE: or so several people seem to have suggested previously JADE: that he needs supervision and medical help JADE: *looks at John like right??* DAVE: but youre saying it also influenced his decision to assault unc-- davenforth DAVE: cuz i mean its being included in the ruling were proposing so ERIDAN: wwhats the fuckin problem davve spill it DAVE: im just trying to clarify here JADE: ... yes? ROSE: Dave. DAVE: why it has anything to do with the assault itself DAVE: what JOHN: *nods* i mean his problems started way before davenforth or lifera were ever involved. i'm not sure whether it influenced his decision but...it lessened his self worth. ROSE: Can I talk to you alone for a moment?  Would that be alright with the room? SUMMONER: *He doesn't want to speak over Rufioh, but he can feel how the multitude of old scars on his own back feel like they are burning. He looks to Rufioh while Jade looks to John, giving him a long searching look as he appears to have gone someplace else.* CRONUS: *UHHHHH* DAVE: uh i guess JOHN: when you don't care about what's going to happen to you, i think you're more likely to do rash and terrible things. JOHN: *looks at Rose like...right??* ROSE: -She gives him kind of a distant nod.- JADE: ... yes JADE: thats fine ROSE: Thanks. SUMMONER: *Slight flick of an ear at John's all too home hitting words, still looking at Rufioh.* JOHN: *stares at rose and dave in concern.* JOHN: *:c* JADE: *she's looking between all three of them, a little distressed* ROSE: -She's just gonna slip out into the hallway there- DAVE: -gets up and follows her- RUFIOH: *fiddling with the bracelet to himself, still keeping his eyes closed.* JADE: *she clears her throat again* JADE: um JADE: so CRONUS: *he REALLY tenses up now that rose has left, feeling kinda jittery and agitated now* ROSE: -W H OOOPs- MEULIN: *and she's sad that Dave left...* MEULIN: ... *glances at Cronus* JADE: so we were considering CRONUS: *he looks like he's on the verge of puking*   JADE: keeping rufioh under a sort of JADE: block confinement within in the medical wing under supervision FEFERI: I t)(ink t)(at's reasonable. *reiterates.* TEREZI: (y3s) KARKAT: YEAH. KARKAT: *Watches that dave went tho* CRONUS: does it havwe to be in the medical vwing.  *gritting his teeth* JADE: for the purpose of his care, it seems like the best place JADE: and for the purpose of safety JADE: does anyone have any better suggestion? CRONUS: fine.  vwhatevwer.   RUFIOH: 1t'll be okay... *mutters but not to anyone in particular. Hopefully Cronus will hear him. He's having a hard time being present right now.* CRONUS: ... *looks over at him* MEULIN: *She doesn't hear that, but she sees it on her shades. She's trying to figure out who said it.* CRONUS: *he really doesn't believe anything is going to be okay, but it still helped on small level* SUMMONER: *He's been looking at Rufioh all this time, and when he speaks he doesn't find himself greatly reassured. But. It's something. A little bit, and sometimes that's enough to hang on. He finds himself glancing to Rajani before catching himself and looking to the floor.* SUMMONER: th1nk 1t's reasonable, yeah, JADE: *she breathes out a tight breath* JADE: okay JADE: then i propose we make arrangements for this effective immediately JADE: and we may have future discussions on his progress as necessary JADE: does everyone agree to this? FEFERI: Agreed! *This is as reasonable a sentence as it's gonna get. Is still keeping her eye on Cronus.* JOHN: yuppers! ERIDAN: yeah might as wwell just excort him noww he doesnt look like hell be super present for the next leg a our discussion TEREZI: =nods= JADE: actually JADE: its been a long night JADE: i think if everyone is okay with it, id like to adjourn our next discussion for tomorrow CRONUS: *he definitely needs that... he's really not sure how much longer he'd last either* RUFIOH: *Oh. It might be time to be escorted outtie soon. Someone say something to him?* SUMMONER: *He'd rather get this over with asap. He has words, many words. But it looks like people need a break, so. He nods quietly.* ERIDAN: alright wwell adjourn this then ERIDAN: fef wwhy dont you do the honors a escortin ruf to the infirmary wwith john RAJANI: -feels like she hasn't breathed this wh0le time- TEREZI: =gives summy a knowing look. she's knows, friendo= REDGLARE: -Sh3's gl4d sh3 do3sn't h4v3 to do 4ny 3scort1n.  Sh3's l34v1ng 4lr34dy.- JOHN: *gives her a lil bow* after you miss shipman, ma'am. ERIDAN: *HE COULD TELL REDGLARE WOULDNT BE UP TO IT* REDGLARE: -TH4NK U- LIFERA: *she's probably being escorted out at some point too* SUMMONER: *He's leaving not far behind Redglare, not eager to be around Lifera or Rajani for longer than he has to.* FEFERI: *nods at attention! And... John please. Gestures for Rufioh to stand and starts guiding him out.* JOHN: *off he goes.* CRONUS: *he stands up, but doubles over and really does puke* RAJANI: -she quietly leaves, likely in the same directi0n that enables her t0 keep a subtle eye 0n lifera- ERIDAN: *WRINKLES HIS NOSE* JOHN: *aw jeez. well let's just keep going.* RUFIOH: *...........Cronus...* TEREZI: =B4CKP3D4LS!!= QIRIN: =Oh my.= JADE: .... JADE: *quietly calls for cleaning crew* CRONUS: *coughs, then just... starts shakily walking out like nothing happened* MEULIN: !! MEULIN: *shit...* MEULIN: *She looks around for a second and.... follows after Cronus* QIRIN: =Goes to grab a Wet Floor sign and some paper towels to at least slow the spread.- JADE: *bless you qirin* QIRIN: =It is of no consequence, Jade! ^_^  She would have never been allowed to experience such an opportunity had she remained queen!= TEREZI: =She's gonna tell Karkat brb and goes running after Redglare.=

[arachnurasgall]

[09:50] -- arachnurasGall [AG] began pestering caligulasAcquisition [CA] at 21:50 --

[09:50] AG: Hey, Ampora!

[09:51] AG: Are you finished spending all of your free time in the infirmary or........?

[09:51] CA: youre not bein captain so dont ask im not electin you an youre not takin ovver

[09:52] AG: That's not even what I asked!!!!!!!!

[09:52] AG: Although I would 8e incredi8ly eligi8le and you know it!

[09:55] CA: no you wwouldnt because no one trusts you but me

[09:55] AG: I thiiiiiiiink your trust 8eats out everyone else's, don't you think?

[09:57] CA: not in this case cuz no one wwould followw your instruction

[09:57] AG: When you're the leader, people do what you tell them to. They have to, or else there are consequences. Duh!!!!!!!!

[09:58] CA: not this creww an im not doin that all ovver again im sorry vvris

[09:59] AG: I'm sure you'll promote me at the very least. Even though the next captain won't 8e as good as I would 8e!

[10:01] CA: oh

[10:01] CA: a promotion

[10:01] CA: i suppose i can take that into consideration

[10:02] AG: Might as well do it 8efore the new captain takes over.

[10:03] CA: wwhat department are you evven in again

[10:10] AG: Fucking shipmen. Uuuuuuuugh.

[10:10] AG: Can't get ANYWHERE with Redglare there. She's out to get me!!!!!!!!

[10:15] CA: wwhat do you mean

[10:17] AG: She H8TES me. Won't give me a chance to show her how gr8 I am at like EVERYTHING.

[10:26] CA: HUH

[10:27] CA: *huh

[10:27] CA: i suppose i can uh

[10:27] CA: talk to her or somethin

[10:28] AG: Or just promote me. I can even do another department!

[10:34] CA: can you though

[10:35] AG: Uh, yeah? I pick up shit real fast, you know that!

[10:36] CA: i dont even fuckin knoww wwhere i could put you i dont think

[10:36] CA: shit

[10:38] AG: Well. You still need a first m8.

[10:38] CA: i cant

[10:38] CA: do that

[10:38] CA: i dont think

[10:40] AG: You don't THINK.

[10:40] AG: I think you're capa8le of doing anything.

[10:52] CA: not for long an i just

[10:52] CA: i dont wwanna demote anyone evveryones doin great

[10:52] CA: i s uppose i could appoint a vvice of a department

[10:53] AG: That's a gr8 idea!!!!!!!! You should do that for EVERY department!

[10:54] CA: ugh thats a lotta promotions

[10:54] AG: Or just me. ::::)

[10:57] CA: i cant make you vvice a evvery department that wwouldt wwork

[10:58] AG: Of ONE. See? This is why first m8 would 8e PERFECT.

[10:59] CA: no

[10:59] AG: Are you just getting rid of that position or what?

[11:02] CA: uh

[11:02] CA: i dunno

[11:02] CA: maybe

[11:02] CA: or maybe im gunna fill it myself

[11:02] AG: What? Why????????

[11:05] CA: because i dunno that i wwanna givve up leadership entirely

[11:09] AG: Well. Do you need a co first m8????????

[11:17] CA: no

[11:19] AG: I think you do.

[11:20] CA: no i fuckin dont stop pressin me

[11:21] AG: Ugh fine.

[11:21] AG: Anyway. You never answered my question.

[09:10] CA: wwhich question 

[09:10] CA: youre askin about a million fuckin questions

[08:43] AG: The FIRST ONE. Way at the 8eginning where I ask if you're finished spending all of your free time in the fucking infirmary!

[08:49] CA: oh

[08:49] CA: right

[08:49] CA: yeah im outta the infirmary noww

[08:49] AG: Fiiiiiiiinally!

[08:49] AG: You 8etter 8e doing something awesome.

[08:49] CA: wwait wwhat do you mean

[08:50] AG: With your free time.

[08:50] AG: And not like, I don't know. Sitting around????????

[08:53] CA: wwell i cant exactly do anythin else

[08:53] AG: 8ooooooooring.

[08:53] AG: When's that going to change?

[08:57] CA: i dunno if i evver fuckin wwalk again

[09:00] AG: You're GOING to walk again, Eridan.

[09:06] CA: yeah ill believve it wwhen im on my feet again

[09:06] AG: With that attitude, it won't happen. 8ut whatever. We can work on that.

[09:24] CA: theres nothin you can do about it

[09:24] AG: Ain't nothin I can't do, Ampora. Remem8er that.

[09:25] CA: theres plenty you cant fuckin do an the surgury that wwould be required to get me back on my goddamned feet im pretty damned sure falls in that category

[09:28] AG: Oh my god! I'm yawning right now, I hope you know. 8ut it's whatever.

[09:28] AG: I'll stick with you, even when you're 8eing lame.

[09:35] CA: wwelll at least theres that

[09:38] AG: There we go. That's the spirit!

[09:38] AG: What would you do without me?

[07:12] CA: i can name a lot

[07:13] AG: It's ok, Eridan. I know it's a little em8arrassing to need someone like me around!

[07:13] AG: 8ut there's really no shame in it.

[07:18] CA: vvris wwhen are you gunna stop doin this uh

[07:18] CA: wwhatevver the fuck it is youre tryin to do right noww

[07:19] AG: I don't think you realize just how VAGUE you sound.

[07:19] AG: I really have no clue what you're talking a8out this time.

[07:45] CA: ugh wwhatevver nevvermind its not wworth tryin to talk to you about this

[07:46] AG: What is it????????

[07:46] AG: You can tell me anything!

[07:51] CA: this front youre pushin the wwhole you totally need me an the constant denial a anythin beyond that

[07:56] AG: Well you do, don't you?

[07:57] CA: no an you knoww i dont wwere not quadmates anymore wwe havvent been for fuckin months

[08:03] AG: Woooooooow.

[08:03] AG: Since when do you have to 8e in a quadrant to rely on someone else????????

[08:03] AG: And technically we were NEVER in a quadrant. Officially, anyway.

[08:06] CA: yes wwe fuckin wwere

[08:06] CA: twwice

[08:09] AG: Uuuuuuuugh.

[08:09] AG: I'm not the one 8ringing up the past here, 8uddy.

[08:16] CA: thats not wwhat this is about

[08:17] AG: I don't see why I have to have a QUADRANT with someone to CARE a8out them.

[08:18] CA: thats not wwhat youre doin youre so fuckin persistant

[08:18] AG: Are you saying I'm FLIRTING with you????????

[08:19] CA: no im sayin you should fuckin cool it because its been SWWEEPS since ivve knowwn you an youre still playin the same card you alwways havve

[08:22] AG: So what you're trying to tell me is that things have changed.

[08:22] CA: yes an youre refusin to

[08:22] AG: Honestly, I don't see ANYTHING wrong with consistency.

[08:22] AG: You're lucky I haven't changed.

[08:23] CA: vvris you mighta had a shot at shit like bein first mate hell evven CAPTAIN if you fuckin changed

[08:39] AG: Ok, so if you have such a clear idea on what qualities I should have acquired over the sweeps, go ahead. Tell me. Tell me aaaaaaaall the ways you wanted me to 8e less me.

[08:41] CA: no im not doin this forget it

[08:42] AG: No, Eridan. You have my full attention! Take advantage of it!!!!!!!!

[08:42] CA: youre just gunna deny evverythin i say theres no point

[08:44] AG: Wow, way to give up!

[08:53] CA: yeah maybe i am

[08:53] -- caligulasAcquisition [CA] ceased pestering arachnurasGall [AG] at 20:53 --

[08:54] AG: L8R.

[08:54] -- arachnurasGall [AG] ceased pestering caligulasAcquisition [CA] at 20:54 --