#wis phantom

[linderosse]

The Great Sea Crew in Hyrule Warriors! — Part 2

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Extra info on Phantom’s abilities

I have more ideas I want to draw that didn’t make it into these two collections… perhaps there will be a third collection sometime in the future!

(For now, though, I should really get back to working on TFC and the main plot of Wisdomverse 😆)

[deeeeeeeer3]

[mobthoughts]

so time's refrain showed how lullaby got her nickname(It was from her mom after she learned her lullaby early and it was really cute) and that got me thinking if there is some kind of culture among the zeldas for official nicknames or something like that

because think about it, Zelda is the tradicional name for a hylian princess, this means that every female heir from the royal family would be named Zelda, Dawn and Echo prove that 2 Zeldas can be alive at the same time and if every female heir is named Zelda then i wouldnt be surprised if a scenario where 2 zeldas co exist is somewhat common(mom and daughter and maybe in an extreme scenario a grandma a daughter and a grandaughter)

so they could go by the number (like zelda the first, zelda the second etc) but that sounds way too formal wich might make casual conversations weird AND the number scheme isnt trustworthy as tetra's name is implied to be tetra because she is "princess zelda the 4th"(lin stated that its because she is the 4th zelda since the flood in the nicknames post) and echo is stated to be "princess zelda the 1st" wich makes NO sense considering there are atleast 4 zelda before her

we do know that the middle name of the royal family changes over time(and since my name is pretty common people sometimes refer to me by my middle name)... but look at the middle names of these people

yeah i'd rather be called togore in my day to day life :P

so it is very much possible for the Zeldas to adopt some kind of nickname for the sake of convenience, maybe it even became some kind of cultural thing like a rite of passage, lullaby herself is stated to be quite proud of getting a nickname to differentiate herself from elegy and requiem

so the zelda naming scheme in universe probably looks something like "zelda "nickname"(middle name) hyrule"

wisdomverse and time's refrain by @linderosse

[tetraswings]

a somewhat serious wisdomverse character alignment chart. more thoughts below the cut.

(art/icon credits go to @/linderosse. tap image for better quality)

upper left quadrant (shoots the dog, wants to):

Echo: In the past, Echo probably would’ve fallen somewhere farther right, but after her 100+ year nap, she’s fallen into a pattern of self-destructive rage. She desperately wants to shoot the dog. The only thing holding her back is her love for Dawn and Hyrule, and the faded memories she has of home.

Artemis: Like Dusk, is bound by duty and would and has sacrifice much for her people. She’s also balanced in a precarious political state in a power-hungry court. Has a lot pent up rage, but ultimately wants to do good.

lower left quadrant (shoots the dog, does not want to)

Dusk: Bound by duty and her love for her Kingdom. If it’s the safest and most logical choice. She really does not want to shoot the dog, but she’s already given so much for her people. What’s one thing more?

Lullaby: It does not matter if she wants to shoot the dog. If shooting the dog will give her information she needs or further her goals, she will likely shoot the dog. The only reason she’s not fully there is because, like Echo, others people tend to influence her actions. More than she thinks they do.

upper right quadrant (wants to shoot the dog, doesn’t)

Dot: She’s sweet on the surface but has a vindictive eldritch side. On some level, she’s the executioner and has that sense of justice in her Wisdom. Ultimately doesn’t shoot the dog though because she chooses joy. (Also, wait long enough and the dog will eventually die on its own. Patience is key :))

Tetra: Lowkey curious about what would happen if she would shoot the dog. But I feel she’s not the type for needless violence? Theft and kidnapping, and if a person deserves it, sure, but living on such open, dangerous waters has cemented that she is not judge, jury, and executioner. The sea will get them first. Besides, killing for sport is likely to cause a lot more problems than it’s worth.

lower right quadrant (would not shoot the dog, doesn’t want to)

Flora: She’s already suffered through so much violence: her father, her friends, Link. At one point in her life, she would have shot the dog out of reluctant obligation. As it stands now, she chooses happiness.

Fable: Does not want to shoot the dog because she’s lowkey squeamish. While she is great at navigating through debates and court, and that requires some sort of cunning on her part, she also holds great empathy and understanding. She broke through to Hilda with her words alone. That’s enough.

Dawn: It’s Dawn. Does not want to inflict suffering, would not commit violence.

Phantom: While she’s strong and a bit of a freak (sorry Phantom you ain’t escaping the allegations), she falls more into a protector role. Would kill the dog if she has to, but if there is choice not to, she will try and dazzle. Also similar to Fable she’s a bit squeamish lol.

middle of the chart

Sun: She who contains multitudes. Sun knows the grooves of Time itself well; the dog must eventually be shot. If she’s the one to shoot it, she will carry that guilt for the rest of her life. But she’s also a leader of her community and, on some level, once a Warrior Goddess who took up arms. She’s also just a woman trying to live her life. Lots of implications with her.

[winedimples]

In your mer AU i can totally see spirit tracks link being obsessed with the 1910 Canadian Pacific Railway Locomotive No. 694 crash

he lives in a sunken train rather than ship XD

HE WOULD!!! I don't think he even needs to be a mer for that to happen XD I now need to look it up...

Unfortunately I haven't gotten that far with his game (*cough* I'm way too easily distracted *cough*) so I didn't get far enough to spark a lot of ideas for both him and Phantom. I do want him to be moving though and with a job, a sunken train wouldn't give him that opportunity sadly. As a throwaway concept: it would be fun if I made him and Phantom actual ghosts, just cruising along the bottom of the sea with their ghost ship. Or he could be a mer that is helping with construction of underwater train railways? I want him to Too BusyTM to deal with all the mer drama in any case XD

Phantom could be, just like Tetra, a landdweller. A princess of a country that has incredibly good relationships with the merfolk. Or a girl of noble blood that attained Hylia's blessing that tied her to the merfolk despite not being a mer herself. Perhaps this blessing is what kept her spirit in the world instead of her straight up dying. Maybe Malladus is some kind of terrorist group trying to sabotage the underwater railroad system? (Ah but, why would the mers agree to have such large scale construction happening in their territory?)

(I need to think more about the world building before i say any more...)

Thank you for the idea! I now have a new documentary to put in the background as I draw!

[spaceoj]

OK, I made a silly little comment of @linderosse phantom reclaiming their body from the blue Demon King. I have forgotten the name of already (no that’s not Gannon for anyone who is wondering)

I am so tempted to make phantom and spirit kissing (with that one base) though I want Lin give me the thumbs up before I draw her ST zelink kiss with the funny base

(And I just want to get this out of my system, even though I know Phantom is stronger with her armour on, I can definitely imagine her having noticeable muscles without it)

[linderosse]

New level of the library unlocked!

(There’s a stepladder item in Zelda 1, but Spirit and Phantom don’t need none of that 😆)

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Yes! Some of them can! Assuming no cheating (Four, Legend, and Hyrule can’t shrink, etc)…

— Tetra can lift Wind. Pirates are strong.

— Lullaby is definitely a stealth type, but she’s deceptively strong as well. She could probably lift Time if he wasn’t wearing his armor from the war. But that stuff is heavy. With it, she probably can’t.

— Same for Artemis, except it’s a bit easier.

— Echo is physically the strongest Zelda. She can pick up and lift rocks in her home game (which takes Legend an item to achieve), and can move boulders of solid rock that are as tall as she is. If Silent was around, she could lift and throw him. (Also, shoutout to this cute and relevant artwork and subsequent analysis of why Echo is terrifyingly strong by @mobgabriel! Exactly what I was thinking!)

— Ever since Malladus buffed Phantom’s body, Phantom has been able to lift Spirit. With her armor on, she can straight-up toss him, and probably has done so :)

[linderosse]

He’s her biggest fan >:)

More wholesome Spirit and Phantom content!

(I drew this nearly a year ago and forgot to post it whoops 😇. At least it’s relevant again now!)

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