#yourlocalangryautistic

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barbara gordon, bruce wayne, stephanie brown

tysm for asks ^_^

Barbara

How I feel about this character

I really love babs. It is not her only attribute, but her being a disabled superhero who acknowledges she does more as a disabled woman than she did as an able bodied woman and her life is different but maybe even better now is so important to me

I like that she genuinely learns from her mistakes and works to make things right and also like it's not easy -- when she wrongs huntress, it takes like an entire fukcing plotline or two for huntress to consider working with her again, and babs had to be like "yeah that was unequivocably wrong on my part"

I like when we see her anger or protectiveness poking through, like when she gives huntress permission to use lethal force (she says something like "do whatever is necessary") to protect tim in jokers last laugh

i love her confidence and sureness in her skills

also her kicking ass and don't forget that even in a WC she kicks ass

All the people I ship romantically with this character

Dick atm but I could see getting into Dinah as well, I just haven't put a ton of thought into the latter

My non-romantic OTP for this character

Barbara and Cass or Barbara and Dinah

My unpopular opinion about this character

not unpopular with the right people but unfortunately still too unpopular with many people but: Magicuring babs was the shittiest decision dc ever made (Okay one of them -- they have a lot of competition for shitty decisions) and they handled her way more sexist and treated her more as a victim of her joker when she was AB than they ever did when she was disabled

One thing I wish would happen / had happened with this character in canon.

unmagicure her

Bruce

lmao poor bruce. I'm gonna try to think of something positive to say about you

How I feel about this character

Okay when Bruce is being well written he is a compelling character. When he is not continuously reliving the same three plotlines over and over again and he is allowed to try to be a dad to his kids (even if he messes up) it is way more compelling than whatever the fuck is going on right now

I feel like when he is a very principled but still flawed and human dude who wants to save people from ever experiencing what he did before and prevent the kids he adopts from being alone to deal with their grief that is good.

However in canon he is often not well written, he’s just a black hole that sucks down other characters and a power fantasy for boring dudes

All the people I ship romantically with this character

no one. i'm sorry bruce you need to get your shit in order before you inflict yourself on a woman

(I don’t retcon out his romantic relationships, but they’re not like “My favorite ship” thing. They’re just there. I think most about hsi and Talia’s interactions because of my focus on Damian/ the al ghul side of things. I write him and Talia as having a romantic relationship in the past but I think by time the present rolls around Bruce would be too resentful of Talia for how she raised Damian and I think Talia would have like... “outgrown” bruce? Like he represented freedom and everything outside the league and a good genuinely nice person at the time but she’s not a young adult who hasn’t had much experience outside a cult of assassins anymore)

My non-romantic OTP for this character

Bruce should just live with his family in a big house so i'm gonna say everyone.

My unpopular opinion about this character

okay so canon wise: Bruce's love interest plots are boring, all of bruce's GFs are better than he is in every single way and don't deserve to be dragged down by him, and the idea that he needs a female love interest to be happy is so heteronormative and goes against the entire appeal of the batfam

fanon: I understand why people want a purely "bruce is a good dad" characterization of him, but you would have to re-write so many other character reactions that I can't get behind it. Bruce wants to be a good dad, but he is often a shitty dad. When I write him I keep most of his mistakes canon (the ones that involve just being bad at interactions, prioritizing the mission or something else more, or being thoughtless, not the ones that involve him being cruel or downright abusive)

Specifically: any time any of his kids gets reasonably stressed or alienated from him and makes decisions based on that, if you retcon him to always having been the perfect dad it just makes them look kind of irrational and is always tearing them down to prop him up

One thing I wish would happen / had happened with this character in canon.

don't forget to let the batfam be competent around him? They should not be nerfed so he can save the day. yes i am thinking of that shitty detective comics comic i read recently where everyone was like... taken out instantly by hush's goons

also, since there is no retcon for what's going on with damian: the other characters calling out Bruce on how he failed damian in nearly every way and his dumb plan got alfred killed and left Damian with that guilt and also calling him out for every time he ever hit his kids.

Stephanie

   How I feel about this character

I like her a decent amount. She’s not on my faves list but she’s definitely a character I appreciate reading. I especially liked when we got to see her anger and complicated feelings towards her dad (she was glad he was dead, ran away from home because her mom kept trying to comfort her) and I like her stubborness. I like how she just decided “my dad is doing bad shit and i’m the only one who can help stop him” and then went to try to stop him.

I also like how she is the first Batfam member who tries to treat Damian like a kid

(Dick didn’t do it before Steph did but I don’t think that’s a failure on his part, I’m pretty sure if he tried to treat Damian like a kid at that point he would scare Damian off)

   All the people I ship romantically with this character

I’m not sure TBH I haven’t thought of it much. I found her interactions with Tim cute when I read them sometimes

   My non-romantic OTP for this character

Steph + cass kicking ass.

   My unpopular opinion about this character

I don’t like it when people try to simplify her to just preppy, and I really don’t get people who praise the pregnancy plotline considering how it just demonized all the other female characters who weren’t steph to prop up the author’s agenda

   One thing I wish would happen / had happened with this character in canon.

I think there never should have been a retcon where Bruce said that he knew she was not dead all along. This is just boring “Bruce can never be wrong” shit and like okay so? you let Cass (who had very few friends even close to being peers) and Tim (who was losing friends and family right and left at this point) believe that she was dead for however long so you could what? Say “I told you so”?

in my headcanon that was purely him trying to cover his own ass

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yourlocalangryautistic replied to your post “Some fucking kids coughed on me because I was wearing a mask today”

im sorry :c fuck them tbh

We live in a fairly low-outbreak area (we had a spike after the May Bank Holiday but it’s back under control) so I’m not worried beyond what my anxiety made me

But I was so mad

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sapodilas said

the birds of prey movie for me lol            

ah nice. did you like it! and what comics did it make you read first :P        

yourlocalangryautistic said

     mine was dcau as a teen, wanted to see more hawkgirl. got into kendra cuz i wanted to see something semi recent, but hear new 52 was awful         

asd;lk kendra’s your favorite hawkgirl now but you weren’t even looking for her you were looking for shayera 😂 hey look on the bright side: if new 52 hawkman was any good you might not have your favorite char!

@superwonderpower I saw you’re reblog but i’m including this here to keep it all in one post

Child, Batman 66 tv leads to golden silver age comics. No worry about continuity at the time. Grown up, New 52. New continuity, easy access. 

I guess the new 52 did serve one if its functions for you then! (I know it was supposed to get more people into comics or be easier to access. it was controversial with a lot of people). which comics did you start with in new52?

ty to everyone who shared!

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dunno if it fits the prompt to a T, but your opinion on: when was the best era of Dc Comics? when was the worst? what would you change now a days?

you can't ask me to pick a best era that's not fair :P each era has problems for different reasons.

i'm talking for batfam atm because i've read the most different eras of batfam

I guess batfam stuff I like that in the 90s/early 2000s they seem to be tonally consistent and know whats going on across the other comics so the characters reactions make sense.

I'll confess I also have a HUGE soft spot for 2009 batman is dead era even though none of my favorite comics are at that time... like I liked the stephanie batgirl run well enough, liked some parts of the b&r 2009 run (the dick and damian interactions mostly), red robin was horrible... but my favorite batgirl comic and favorite batman and robin comic are not in there.

i guess if i had to pick a favorite era it would probably be 2009 era mostly for dick as batman and damian as robin

maybe i'm negative but i feel like saying current comics are the worst -_- at least out of the comics i've read substantial numbers of. I can't comment on like. gold age or silver age cuz i only read 1 or 2 comics from those eras

what i would change nowadays:

Barbara would be back to using a wheelchair fulltime and kicking ass and like. actually being a good hacker.

tim would no longer be robin. sorry tim.

damian would be handled by a writer who actually lets him be competent and affect the plot in ways that matter. and lets his character development stick and does not re-hash the same arc 500 times

dick would get to be competent.

cass would be batgirl and have a solo title again

ty for ask lol you started a rant

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who would win: cassandra cain vs dinah lance

unless she can keep her out of punching range, dinah loses to cass*. They're both very good fighters and extremely competent, but Cass has an edge against other non-powered fighters** due to her body-language reading ability and canonically dinah has asked cass for fighting/sparring help, so it is clear that in the realm of hand-to-hand dinah defers to cass in some instances.

*And even then Cass can still avoid things at a range -- the canary cry is a complicated due to the fact that it's not a line like a bullet, its a wave. But also can Cass see when she's taking a breath? I think when she fights slade, black canary intentionally doesn't use her canary cry to avoid the him just trying to hit her on the inhale thing

**black canary has powers but i'm talking specifically about hand to hand here

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🔥dick grayson, hawk and dove

dick grayson: It's hard because there are like little corners of the dick grayson fandom where a bunch of different opinions would be unpopular

like in some parts of the fandom if you think he is not super emotionally open and not always the happy-go-lucky guy, that's unpopular. but i guess it doesn't seem unpopular where i hang out?

this one i'm unsure if is unpopular where i hang out so i guess i'll go with it: I know i've seen some people indicating they like when dick intimidates/beats the information out of people (probably because it goes against the previous fanon stereotype that he always has to be nice) but i hate it because i always hate the trope of the hero beating information out of people being portrayed as a good thing that works. like in the 1980s he seems to take objection with some of bruce's methods and I know that he can change morally but I don't like seeing him go back on THAT id rather see him genuinely surpass bruce in detective skills to find new things than have dick beat people up for info

hawk and dove: they would be stronger characters if the writers didn't push the opposite thing so much because often the effect is "dove has to be a reasonable person who isn't an asshole to people and doesn't leap immediately to violence.... that means hawk has to be the BIGGEST, MOST UNREASONABLE ASSHOLE EVER WHO IMMEDIATELY LEAPS TO VIOLENCE. but also we have to portray it as if these are two equally valid opposites of the same coin"

also the writers just try to tie hawk to too much real world shitiness for me to like him and then often also try to portray that as somehow a valid opinion (toxic masculinity, xenophobia/racism, pro state violence)

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who would win: superman vs wonder woman

Wonder Woman

even if superman is technically stronger than she is, she has way more training and no kryptonite. when the writers aren't pandering (superman is the best in dc universe cuz superman) they are portrayed as pretty evenly matched. thinking the superman (as controlled by maxwell lord) vs wondy fight in rucka's run -- wonder woman had kryptonite but she didn't get it out, so they would up fighting each other for real without kryptonite and it was treated as fairly evenly matched, some advantage superman/ worry on diana's part due to the fact that she didn't want to hurt superman and superman was like completely letting loose

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who would win: cyborg vs blue beetle (jaime reyes)

cyborg is going to win because of how much more experience he has. even though jaime can make objectively very powerful weapons like ... if the scarab is telling the truth, the implicate order matter annihilator ... cyborg also fights very objectively tough people and has very strong technology and good experience

that said

don't pit them against each other 😭

cyborg vs blue beetle: No

cyborg and blue beetle team up (some mentoring on cyborg’s part) Yes