The legendary musician, producer, and collaborator SOPHIE has passed on. She’s a producer as prolific as Brian Eno. A critically acclaimed musician. Trans Icon. Founder of HyperPop, the genre that defines Pop in this age. Listening to her, her influence becomes obvious. Much of modern music has her fingerprints all over it, either directly or indirectly.
I urge you to take time to appreciate her and her fellow trans trailblazers, like Wendy Carlos, Lauren Bousfield, and Laura Les.
Wendy Carlos is one of the best soundtrack artists alive, responsible for The Shining, TRON, and Clockwork Orange. Lauren Bousfield’s debut as Nero’s Day At Disneyland laid the foundation for breakbeat’s evolution into hyperpop, whilst SOPHIE and 100 Gecs (Laura Les’s duo with Dylan Brady) define hyperpop itself.
That’s by no means the end of the list of genderqueer musicians, which includes Of Montreal, Sam Smith, Laura Jane Grace of Against Me!, Ruby Rose, Glass Beach, Zand, Dorian Electra, Christine and the Queens, Vektroid (Macintosh Plus), Left @ London, and Mal Blum.
Nor is that list recent. Though The Clockwork Orange came out in 1971 and Carlos was out by the time she was a contributor to Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars. She is far beat by 40’s gospel singer Willmer “Little Ax” Broadnax, who sang with the biggest acts of his day. Like 30’s Jazz Singer Billy Tipton, Little Ax was transmasculine.
Closer to home for me are 4th Curtis https://www.4thcurtis.com/, who are absolutely wonderful. I truly believe they will define an entire social movement, aesthetic, and punk scene. My Dutch music geek friend is a fucking huge fan of them, and one of their members is a good friend of Literally 2 out of the 3 kindest people I know. That’s not something that maybe should go into a formal article like this, but CPunk fucking rocks and they do too.
Trans individuals have a long history in music, and have come to define much of what we listen to today.
We just lost one of the greatest. Who died how she lived: Climbing high, admiring beauty, and being among the stars.
Admire the moon for her. Yourself too.
all these people who are like ACAB AND PUNCH NAZIS are gonna see Biden lift the "trans ban" on the military and are gonna cheer his praises not comprehending their irony and idiocy
Listen I hate the military as much as the next guy but like. Thomas Sanders NEVER said this. I follow him on Twitter, and scrolled through his account dating back weeks. I never saw a SINGLE post or comment about the military. He has only mentioned the new administration’s recognition of climate change and belief in science. And from looking at the format of this image, it seems to be edited.
what is going on here is gesturing at imagined hypocracy and then pulling up fabricated evidence to support it.
There is plenty to criticise biden on. Even bernie has positions like saying open borders is a right wing policy. ( in some cases, sure, but certainly not all ). But if you have to make something up, that is a sign that you're position isn't all that strong. One of the things necessary for an effective and pragmatic analysis means examining every action on its own terms; simply seeing who did them is not sufficient.
We went through this rigamarole with don't ask don't tell already. The problem is that legislation is based in past legislation. If there is a policy that is put in practice that specifically discriminates based on gender or sexuality, then that is a foundation to introduce it to other aspects of society in an official capacity. You don't have to be pro imperalism or something to see that. Nor do you have to have believe that this is a sign for a genuine care for trans people.
I'm perfectly willing to say that it is not fabricated if there is some evidence for it.
Tweets can be deleted, but the replies remain, so if someone can link to those that were made before catnpc posted that picture, and suggests it was in reply to that text i'll totally concede that it was made. That doesn't address the argument at all though.
"if you have to make something up to support your argument, your position isn't all that strong"
*posts a missworded google search to call someone a liar for daring to suggest their fave is a bootlicker for supporting the military*
*ppl post correct search showing claim wasn't a lie*
Pack it up people, all the screenshots that have been posted are made up too because a sanders stan says so without even showing a screenshot of them doing the correct search...
isn't it kinda scary that whenever we're taught about communist dictatorships in school, we're always shown how purely unsustainable they are or whatever, but we're never given the same view for capitalist fascistic empires? like nazi germany, italy, imperialist japan? we're never taught how fundamentally unstable and unsustainable they are, and how much generational damage they actually do to their citizens and their economies. we're just taught that they were ~vaguely cruel~ or that they were strong military powers.
what im saying is that we're never taught that these empires could never legitimately succeed and function. we're never taught that they're self-destructive, inane, and completely vile even to those it benefits. schools tamp down any interest in communist or socialist beliefs we could have, and then turn around and show these fascist empires as powerhouses. we're taught that these fascist empires could sprout up again, anytime. but they're never 'debunked' as thoroughly as any leftist empire, because we as a country are far closer to nazi germany than we ever were to soviet russia under lenin.
orwell also created a list of leftists for the british government before he died that ruined lives, so like yes the right is wrong to laud him as their icon but lets not act like he's some sort of leftist icon either... he was also known to spout some insanely racist and anti-semitic shit.
Ppl like to justify this as simply "he was asked for people fit for a propaganda job and so he gave them a list of reasons some people weren't fit for that" as if that makes it okay to snitch on leftists and marginalized people to a regime that persecutes them. Also he was a colonial cop so fuck him. Honestly the only reason Orwell persists as a literary icon is pure and simple Cold War propaganda
How would prison abolition deal with murderers, serial killers, paedophiles, torturers,kkk members,neo-Nazis and terrorists? Some people are a legit danger and cannot be allowed to roam society.
So I didn’t answer this at the time, because the anon who sent it is almost definitely the racist troll sending me shit I’m not going to publish (so like uhhh bear that in mind lmao), but I’ve blocked them now and it’s been a few days, so hopefully they’ve fucked off by now. Plus, I’ve been thinking about this question a LOT since before I received it. It’s a question that I think most people have about the concept of prison abolition and reparative justice, and not everyone with these concerns is asking in bad faith. Besides which, with the recent attempted coup and the way it looks like people who participated are actually going to face legal consequences for it (which alone was somewhat surprising to me tbh), I’ve been seeing a lot of leftists discoursing over whether it’s morally okay and intellectually consistent to be happy about cops beating up, killing, and arresting KKK members and Neo-Nazis, so it is now actually topical! Under the cut due to long response~
So the first thing I want to point out, is that literally every single one of the groups of “legit dangers who cannot be allowed to roam society”, are already out there right now. In our current “justice” system, it’s common knowledge that monsters often get off on a technicality, or because they just have the money to throw lawyer after lawyer at the charges, or because they outright bribe someone, or countless other ways to get around the law. You can look on my own literal tumblr blog and watch me argue with grown ass adults who will bold faced admit to consuming child porn with half-assed excuses, and you’ll find more open pedophiles on sites like twitter, reddit, or 4chan, or porn sites where “teen” is usually one of the most popular categories. Besides which, have you ever looked at the average sentences for convicted rapists, wife beaters, or pedophiles, as compared with the sentences for getting caught selling drugs? In middle school I had to walk a mile or two to get to school through a neighborhood we’d been warned had a convicted pedophile in it, who had just been released after less than 15 years. In that same city, I heard a story about a woman shooting and killing her rapist, and prosecutors were discussing giving her the death penalty for it (she was bragging and laughing about it on video, it was definitely premeditated, but still). Have you ever looked at the statistics of how many rapists and abusers aren’t reported, or if they are reported aren’t prosecuted, or if they are are prosecuted with a slap on the wrist (remember Brock Turner????) Also I notice how you didn’t even mention domestic abusers or rapists in your list of people who need to be locked up lolololol shows where your priorities vis a vis “public safety are I’m sorry, but the system just does not work the way you think it does, the we are taught it does.
People who make this argument always act like the systems we have now are efficient and nigh on flawless when it comes to “not letting dangerous people roam society”, but it isn’t and it can’t be and it never will be. That very fact ought to be enough to shake your faith in the idea that society will become a nonstop Purge of indiscriminate violence if everyone who’s committed a sufficiently despicable act of violence isn’t locked up for the rest of their lives -but you might say, “okay, but those are flukes, the system still works because most of the people who are “a danger to society” are usually locked up.” I’m not completely sold that that’s even true (have you ever heard of the opportunities cops had to bring in serial killers and murderers, who just didn’t care enough to try? Jeffrey Dahmer is a good example of this), but I’ll assume it is to move on to my next point.
Even if we assumed that the system as we have it, worked flawlessly as designed, that doesn’t change the fact that a lot of the categories mentioned here are people that are actively running the very systems that this rhetoric is defending. It’s well-documented that American white supremacists of various stripes have infiltrated law enforcement and the military for the express purpose of not just “roaming free”, but getting to exert the power of the State over people of color. Cops and soldiers kill people all the time, and not only are they not penalized, they’re celebrated for it. Agents of the State fucking torture people all the time, and I don’t just mean Guantanamo Bay or war crimes by soldiers; cops have been caught on camera spraying protesters with pepper spray and beating them once they’ve already been handcuffed or while they’re chained to trees or whatever -not because they think they “need” to, because they want to, and they know they’ll get away with it. Cops also systematically torture people in prison with solitary confinement. Heads of state drop bombs on civilians for “politically motivated reasons”, they do all kinds of shit that would be called “terrorism” if anybody but a State did it; and people might disapprove, but they don’t (generally) claim that the politicians and generals who made that call are “a danger to society” that need to get life in prison. If you genuinely believe that whether these acts of violence are “legal” or not changes whether they’re okay, or that a person who engages in illegal violence is “dangerous” but people who engage in legal violence aren’t... I’m honestly not even going to try to refute that here lol, prison abolition is level 5 shit and you’re at level -1, study how authoritarianism in general works before trying to understand prison abolition (not trying to be a dick here, it’s what i would tell my younger self when I believed the same thing).
It simply does not hold up to rational scrutiny to believe that society will collapse into an orgy of violence and mayhem if we abolish prison (or that we’ll have to resort to medieval punishments instead??? lol funny take i remember from some racist troll or other over the years), when those dangers are already present (and in some cases widely celebrated as “heroes” and given the power to indiscriminately brutalize “acceptable targets” with the State’s monopoly on violence) under the current system.
The next thing people need to understand is that contrary to popular belief and despite how counterintuitive it sounds, even the brutality of our current prison system is not an effective deterrent to crime (linked a Guardian article that looks like it has some good info on this, but I recommend a book called Unfair: The New Science of Criminal Injustice by Adam Benforado for more information). Let me say that again: the threat of prison has been empirically shown to be INEFFECTIVE as a deterrent to crime. Do you really think that a serial killer or someone who wants to blow up a building full of people is going to be more likely to follow the law for fear of prison, than regular people doing regular people crimes like selling drugs or getting into drunk fights that go too far?
I don’t think anyone is actually willing to argue that prison “rehabilitates” anyone, or does anything besides make regular criminals into angrier, more antisocial, more desperate criminals with more criminal connections and less options for any kind of a legitimate living, so I’m just going to point out that having such a large prison population arguably creates more people who have shitty lives of poverty and are surrounded by people who are in and out of prison. It’s not like that “makes” anybody into a serial killer, but I feel like you’d have to willfully ignorant to act like it’s not a factor in increasing violent crime in affected community.
So, I’ve so far argued that prison is an ineffective solution to the problems it claims to exist in order to solve, and that in many cases, it actually makes the problems that lead to these sorts of dangerous people (”regular” murderers and the radicalization of Neo-Nazis and KKK members in particular, I think) becoming dangerous, or at least more dangerous, in the first place. What I haven’t done, is talk about what I believe is the real core of the issue when it comes to prison abolition: nobody wants to fucking peacefully rehabilitate these people. I am arguing for a system that would handle these people basically as gently as possible, with the goal of releasing them back into society eventually, and I still believe these things mostly intellectually, not emotionally. I don’t want the men who sexually assaulted me and/or my loved ones to get off scot free (they did, of course, but that’s beside the point), much less serial killers or Nazis, and I’m not about to get on my high horse about wanting revenge on people who’ve committed these kinds of atrocities. The reason I’m a prison abolitionist in spite of these feelings is that I do not believe the desire for revenge, for punishment for punishment’s own sake, is an impulse we should indulge when creating social and political infrastructures that have ultimate power over millions of lives. In the words of someone talking about abolishing the death penalty, the question isn’t “do they deserve to die”, the question is “do we deserve to kill”; and here, the question is not “does anyone deserve to be imprisoned in this system”, the question is “do we deserve to brutalize people in this way for virtually zero practical benefits to our society”. What any person “deserves” is a subjective moral and philosophical question, one that no conceivable human justice system could ever actually answer. We as a society need to build alternatives to prison (and police!) that can actually address these problems, actually prevent the conditions that create and enable monsters, and actually rehabilitate (to whatever extent that is possible) criminals -even the ones we, personally, despise. Any long-term incarceration that may end up being 100% required should be designed to reduce the suffering of the person in it, no matter how despicable of a person they are. Trying to solve “the problem of evil” instead of trying to create a more functional and just society is a fool’s errand that can only lead to more evil existing, in the end.
At the end of the day, the “irredeemable” people you listed off as justifications for the continuing existence of prison, are only a tiny fraction of the people in prison, even the ones with life sentences. A full understanding of the horror and oppression the prison industrial complex enacts on the people in it and their communities (and how the system is designed to make a profit off of human suffering and death) is something you’ll have to read some actual books about in order to acquire. However, I don’t think it’s controversial to say that any horror we as a society deem “acceptable” to do to the worst of the worst, will also be done to regular criminals, as well as to innocent people who are wrongly imprisoned. Any brutality you design with a serial killer in mind WILL eventually be a punishment for a petty thief or drug dealer or sex worker, or a person who didn’t commit the crime they were incarcerated for. Is it really worth it? Is it really, really worth all the misery and oppression prison causes, to satiate our sense of justice? I don’t believe that it is. I believe that we have a responsibility both to the incarcerated and to their communities to base our policies and institutions on actually solving these societal problems however we can, and leaving our “eye for an eye” mentality in the dark ages where it belongs.
If you are interested in prison abolition as a concept, I can recommend some good books on it. You also need to understand that concept of “reparative justice”, which I’ve alluded to here but not really explained because OH MY GOD THIS POST IS TOO LONG ALREADY. Short explanation of it is that it aims to repair the harm done by the crime and rehabilitate the criminal through through therapy and trying to get them to actually understand what they’ve done and empathize with who they’ve hurt, while also providing therapy and resources to the victim of the crime (when it’s something violent and the reparation can’t just be “give them their money back plus extra for damages” or something). The point is not to satiate anybody’s sense of justice or revenge, but to proactively try to solve the problem the crime has caused and prevent the offender from doing it again. It would need to work in conjunction with the abolition of police (and replacement with better infrastructure for the few things cops do that we actually need done) and various other social programs and measures to prevent the circumstances that lead to crime. This sounds like a long shot because it is, but just because it hasn’t been done on a wide scale before doesn’t mean it can’t be, and just because it will be difficult doesn’t mean it’s not worth doing.
actually, more than that, it’s an “embarrassingly reductionist, one-deficiency-one-illness-one-pill model of mental illness” that began as a disturbingly successful marketing campaign by Eli Lilly (makers of prozac) in the 80s and GSK (makers of paxil) in the 90s.
here are some well-researched pop science articles on the subject:
Depression: It’s Not Your Serotonin, citing a large amount of academic research into manipulation of data relating to the low-serotonin hypothesis by drug companies. Turner et al (2008) in particular revealed that half of the 74 studies conducted by pharmaceutical companies on their SSRIs were negative, of them only 3 of them were published as is, 11 were published with positive spin, and 22 were left unpublished.
Psychiatry’s Grand Confession, citing increasingly skeptical research and also referencing questionable marketing tactics.
Television adverts for antidepressants cause anxiety, citing a push from academics to ban adverts claiming “chemical imbalance” causes depression.
as well as citations in the literature:
Cowen PJ, Browing M (2015), a review summarizing the state of research into the serotonin hypotheses, concluding that “impairing serotonin function can cause clinical depression in some circumstances, but is neither necessary nor sufficient”, and that low serotonin at best correlates with prolonged recovery. They also directly critique development of psychiatric theory from the effects of pharmaceuticals.
Lacasse JR, Leo J (2005), a review of opinions on the low-serotonin hypothesis from leading researchers and clinicians.
Smith KA, Fairburn CG, Cowen PJ (1997) and Berman RM, Narasimhan M, Miller HL, et al (1999), studies in which rapid depletion of tryptophan (a serotonin precursor) produced no clinically significant changes in mood in healthy patients, and only brief clinically-relevant relapses in recovered patients.
Risch N, Herrell R, Lehner T, et al (2009), a 14000-patient meta analysis concluding there is no current link between serotonin transporter genotype and depression, accounting for social/personal stressors.
Castrén E (2005), a review on an alternate hypothesis that cites problems in information processing/cognition as the casuse of depression, and suggests that SSRIs actually disrupt neurochemical homeostasis even further, and that long-term recovery is a neuroplastic response to this magnified disruption.
like, if you’re participating in the “if you can’t make your own serotonin, store-bought is fine!” meme culture surrounding this, you’re furthering capitalist propaganda and that’s all there is to it. knock that shit off.
of course, this isn’t at all to say that people should never pursue medical treatment for their depressive symptoms or that their medication isn’t really helping them.
it’s just that furthering mythology propagated by the pharmaceutical industry that reduces the conditions of depressive pathology to an innate “chemical imbalance” obfuscates the social and material realities (i.e. capitalism, racism, sexism, homophobia, etc) that cause and exacerbate mental illness.
like, as tempting as it is to buy into the easy one-pill answer, there are broader social questions and pathologies at stake and we can’t afford to lose sight of them–especially not now.
Ok this all looks bad BUT NO! This is written by Carlton Mellick III, a pioneer of the Bizarro movement. All of his books are batshit wild but that’s the point
“A young man inherits ten eternally youthful wives from an estranged uncle he never knew he had… which wouldn’t have been such a bad thing if they didn’t have giant hammers for heads or a tendency of bludgeoning people to death for fun, food, or sexual pleasure. “
Hes really out here righting the most wild plots he wants, and he doesnt give a damn about making sense
As someone who wrote essays on Cameron Pierce's "Pickled apocalypse of pancake Island" and loved Kevin Dole's story "we're counting on you" so much that I still have a shitty plaintext copy of it in my gDrive because it no longer being online saddened me so much, let me real here: the bizarro movement was a misguided attempt at new weird by well-intentioned but immature authors who were more concerned with shock value and a juvenile idea of "subversion" than with using the weirdness to tell actually engaging stories. So many bizarro tales were just "generic white sadboy pathos" once you looked past the surface wackiness, and even very out-there scenarios ended up reading as barely-veiled allegories for the most boring sexual anxieties. Don't get me wrong, there were some bizarro gems out there, but CM3 is honestly the most boring, sexist, and uninspired of the "big" names.
Patton Oswalt did a masterful (if a little wordy, he is an uber nerd) similar article on why a closed minded gatekeeping fandom suffocates the thing it loves: https://www.wired.com/2010/12/ff-angrynerd-geekculture/
Hmmm I wonder what demographic of people would struggle so strongly with social interaction and societal expectations of behavior that they would need to use something to cope.. What group of people is known for becoming deeply obsessed with things- A “hyperfixation” if you will, and uses it to cover their social ineptitude… It’s a mystery.
There y’all go dragging autistic people into this and you know what? That’s really messed up and evil. There are plenty of autistic people who aren’t running around using racial slurs, harassing cast members, arguing with women who are nerdy, sending death threats to film crews, and telling actors to kill themselves because a scene wasn’t written correctly. It disgusts me that you are aligning these sorts of undesirable and frankly fucked up behaviors with autistic people. You have people in fandoms who are absolutely disgusting and terrible people who partake in this weird fucked up culture then you have the nerve to say “haha gotcha this is ableist!” No it’s not ableist to discuss messed up behavior. And no one is talking about autistic people except bloggers such as yourself are eager to tear autistic people down and align their disability with disgusting individuals who make the lives of cast members and film crews absolutely miserable. You’re the type of person who will drain the fuck out of a series until there is nothing left and you will make sure to put others down while hiding behind mental illness or disabilities to justify you’re cruel behavior. It makes me sick that autism is being weaponized to drown out serious issues such as racism, misogyny, and stalking (yes stalking). You really want us to believe that every single nerd who’s an asshole with bigoted views is autistic?
the sooner you understand that the entire united states political system was intended from the very beginning to be conducive to entrenched power and ideological inertia, the sooner you’ll realize the only viable solution is to scrap all of it and rebuild it from the ground up
it is incredibly unusual for a legislature to be specifically designed to make the legislative process as slow-moving and convoluted as ours is. also for it to be so incredibly difficult to amend our constitution or even draft a new constitution altogether. thats not even getting into the role of the judiciary or the unique nature of our executive branch. and its not a coincidence that this fossilized system of government was put in place 250 years ago by a bunch of slave-owning colonizers who broke away from their imperial core because they didnt want to pay taxes lol
The sooner you understand that concept like scrap it all and rebuild it from the ground are idiotic and will never happen the sooner you can understand that the ONLY viable solution is for people to stop complaining and actually get to work. VOTE every single time and for viable candidates instead of throwing your vote away. WRITE not just your representative e but to all of them and not just hate mail but actual detailed concerns and complaints. Form lobby groups and be constantly active and GET INTO POLITICS YOURSELF if you are capable. That’s how you change things.
Instead of day dreaming about revolutions that will never happen get to work and use the system to change it. It’s not fun, it’s not easy but its the only way.
please tell me this person isnt replying to this post that says “the system is designed to get nothing done” by urging everyone to participate in the system to get things done…
the only way to change the system is to be part of the system Einstein. but hey by all means tell your glorious and brilliant idea of how you will scrap it all and rebuild it from the ground? what are you going to get a bunch of guns and try to cause a revolution? or maybe you will make a go fund me and buy a private island where you will all live in a perfect utopia. come on share with the class show you will scrap it all and rebuild it from the ground. i am so tired of lightening to bullshit like this especially since the people who parrot this nonsense quite often don’t even bother voting or waste their vote on a third party candidate.
so come on. don’t post catch phrases, don’t post essays which have thousand words saying nothing. give me accurate and detailed steps on how you will scrap it all and replace it
@viomputer
“@crazyintheeast shut the fuck up lib oh my god how did you miss the point of this post so bad “
The point of this post is the same as every other similar nonsense. To absolve yourself of responsibility and to feel superior. Why bother voting, why be an activist, why spend thousand of hours grinding and suffering to enact change when you can just go “ Well the system is broken beyond repair and nothing can be done. So we will scrap it and start from the ground. What do you mean how we will scrap it and start from the ground? Details? Who cares about details we will do it. Stop asking how. The point is that the system is evil and there is nothing we can do to change it.We will start anew. Again stop asking how we will scrap and start over. We just will oK!?!?””
You all want to be keyboard warriors instead of actually working for change. And since deep down you know that what you are saying is bullshit you are trying to invalidate the immense amount of work that countless activists and other workers for change have done and continue to do so often at the expense of yourown lives and safety so you will feel better about yourself. That’s it. That’s all there is to people like you and the op. People who love to rant but hate working for real change
True. It would be amazing and super easy (if you count war as easy I guess) if we could just “scrap it and start from the ground”. BUT WE CANT.
It’s hard, it’s uncomfy and it’s slow, but the only way to make a REAL change is to work with the system. Get in there and change it from the inside through voting, through protesting, through talking to your reps everyday, through making legislation.
Is it frustrating to work for change through this painfully slow ways while know there’s so many things so wrong in this country? Yes.
Is it possible to scrap it all up and start over? No.
I’m sorry we gotta do this, but someone has to. We gotta work, ok.
Actually, you CAN scrap it all and start from the ground up. Many countries have created new constitutions, replaced governments and many other things USians like to call “impossible”, you guy just like to pretend you’re above the struggle of history and that your system is somehow eternal and sent from heaven.
That’s not scrapping it all and starting from the ground. That’s literally using the system to change it for the better and if you bothered checking how the constitution is changed you would see just how difficult this process is. Oh my god for fuck’s sake get educated on how goverment works and on basic common sense. I know that dreaming of revolution is all sexy and nice but it’s dumb as fuck and it literally cannot happen in USA.. Stop living in an echo chamber and actually look at the real world. You want to change something? Follow the footsteps of activists and heroes who have already made changes and are constantly working for the better instead of behaving like a pretentious child who sits on their ass and does nothing but rant because “oh revolution is right around the corner so why bother actually putting real effort”
Stop looking for ways to justify your laziness
Please check my follow up reblog, when I talked about a new constitution I meant that you can literally put a new constitution in place that scraps the government if you are willing to go outside the system. The example I give there is our Mexican 1917 constitution, which literally needed a civil war to get established. And my point is the opposite of justifying laziness, it's that the stability of the system that tells you you need to work inside it, the stability it uses to justify having to go through slow and impossible processes, is an illusion. Please check my other reblog.
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