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"They are rage… Brutal… Without mercy."
"But you? You will be worse."
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Nemesis
"They are rage… Brutal… Without mercy."
"But you? You will be worse."
This fandom doesn't deserve Cloud Strife
Another day, another dogshit take on Cloud Strife from Tumblr.
Funny how it's basically the same take every time, too. "Cloud is weak / ineffectual / a loser". Right, sure. So Sephiroth, the greatest SOLDIER of all time, got taken out by a feckless, weak, limp-wristed soy boy, not once, but three separate times? That's pretty fucking embarrassing.
Do you have any idea how stupid you sound? Should I use smaller words?
Tumblr truly is the garbage hole of the fandom, where the most aggressively idiotic people in the world congregate to compete in who can come up with the most braindead takes on FFVII imaginable.
With no due respect, fuck all of you. You don't deserve this story, and you sure as fuck don't deserve a character as iconic and badass as Cloud.
In the Tyrol (1904) by John Singer Sargent
Speaking of issues with the new trailer...
Base of a Palace (1904) by John Singer Sargent
What an absolutely terrible trailer.
How the FUCK do you make a reveal trailer about FFVII's grand finale and give your protagonist absolutely NOTHING memorable to do? How? How are Square-Enix this creatively bankrupt?
Imagine someone making a Batman trailer with no Batman in it.
I have more thoughts on this. A lot more. Brace yourselves.
A quick reminder as to how Part 3 is going to end.
Aabria told me to get the brown M&M. I'm so sorry. For once in my life, I could not help you.
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Hey! Just wanted to drop in and say that I'm SO GLAD that there are more ppl who appreciate Cloud's character and aren't mischaracterizing him. It's rough out here. It's also good to know that there are Sephiroth haters out here too. I cannot stand this man and how his fans will do everything but hold him accountable of his actions.
A fellow Sephiroth hater? I was starting to get the distinct feeling that I was the only one. Pleased to meet you.
To be fair, it's less Sephiroth, the character, who annoys me, and more his fans. I appreciate a good villain as much as the next person (e.g. the Joker, Darth Vader...) You can't have a story like FFVII without a good villain/hero combo, after all. It takes two to tango. But imagine if the average Darth Vader fan was like "Luke Skywalker suxx and he's a subby little ukeboi and Vader should just kill his friends and top/rape* him all day long KEKEKE..."
(*for the sake of my argument, let's ignore the icky incest angle for now...)
But that's basically what Sephy fans are like here on Tumblr (and some on Twitter and other places). And then they wonder why we don't like their favorite character.
The other thing that bugs me is Square floating the idea of a redemption arc for Sephiroth, which
He hasn't earned.
Leaves the question as to who is going to be the ultimate villain of FFVII, because it's not like he can be both the villain AND one of the heroes at the same time.
And so on. If Sephy fans were... idk, more normal about the whole thing, I probably wouldn't be a hater. But here we are.
Anyway, it's nice to meet another sane fan.
Okay so uh I need the FF7 Fanfic community to understand something about Cloud when writing smut fanfics of him: HE WOULD NOT BE THE ONE TO LEAD IN THE BEDROOM!
That man would shit his pants if you made him lead. Cloud is inexperienced and wouldn't know what to do. Now don't get me wrong, Top Cloud Strife fics are nice and they hit when well written, but they'd only work if Cloud had already gotten experience beforehand, which the fics don't disclose 99% of the time. So for the love of Gaia/The Planet, can we PLEASE stop pretending that he'd know what the hell he's doing in that bedroom instead of blushing to the point he'd looked like a tomato?
I want more fanfics of Cloud being completely clueless, shy, and embarassed and for the reader or one's OC to guide him until he's comfortable enough to take the lead. That is 1000x hotter. Please and thank you. Saying this as someone writing Cloud like this myself.
Respectfully, I have to disagree. I think dom Cloud is a million times hotter, especially if the other character is being haughty and thinks they're going to easily dominate him, only to watch him wrest control from them. But I digress…
Besides which, I believe that being dominant is truer to his underlying character than being submissive. Don't believe me? Watch Advent Children again and pay close attention to the Healin Lodge scene. Note the way Cloud instantly shuts down Reno and Rude when they try to attack him. That's pure dom body language. Same with when he's standing over a defeated Kadaj during the last part of the movie, giving him a smug look that says "did you really think you had a chance at beating me?"
So yeah. The idea of Cloud somehow being inherently submissive is just absurd to me. I could go on for several pages about this.
I'm not saying all this to knock your preference. Your request seems to be coming from a place of genuine appreciation, unlike most of the fandom here on Tumblr. A part of the problem is that they conflate being awkward, indecisive or inexperienced with being inherently submissive in nature. (Sefikura shippers are especially insufferable about this. Of course, they usually leave out the fact that Sephiroth's attempts to control or dominate Cloud always end in failure.)
I have to wonder, do you genuinely feel that there is some dearth of sub/inexperienced Cloud content? Given that much of the fandom here on Tumblr seems to be laboring under the illusion that he is inherently and irrevocably submissive, you'd think that type of content would be easy to find. If anything, dom Cloud stuff is rarer in my experience. Which brings me to another pet peeve of mine: The false dichotomy of it all. Everything needs to be framed in terms of dom/sub, ignoring the existence of switches entirely (most people in the FFVII fandom don't even seem to know what a switch is). But that's a MUCH longer discussion.
The very core of Cloud's personality, the essence of his being, is defiance. He's the scrappy teen who stood up to the world's greatest super-soldier and won, thereby averting armageddon. Then he defeated Sephiroth after he'd ascended to near-godhood while relying on nothing more than janky SOLDIER upgrades. To characterize him as "weak" or "submissive" is, to me, the height of absurdity. But the Tumblr section of the FFVII fandom has spent so long gaslighting itself into believing this that any attempt to dispel these notions is met with disbelief.
(Also, personally, having Cloud be that level of insecure reminds me a little too much of his underage teen, Crisis Core, pre-Nibelheim incident personality for comfort. Idk, that's just me.)
Anyway, this comment's gone on for way too long. tl;dr: I get why awkward(!) inexperienced(!) Cloud content might appeal to some people, I'm just leery of their motivations and character interpretation. Present company excepted, that is. Best of luck with your content. Peace.
Santa Maria della Salute (1904) by John Singer Sargent
A quick reminder for the fandom: There's only one dominant in this room, and it sure as fuck isn't any of these losers.
My entry for the Crisis Core Zine (2021)
Every single time. Like clockwork.
Also, gotta love how it's always "Zack = cool gigachad, Cloud = dorky defenseless waif" when their canon depictions are literally this:
Bunch of betas chasing the only real alpha among them.
Be Hojo:
Smart as fuck
Doing the kind of work that you love every day
Huge position of power within a major organization
Obtain hot wife
Birth badass demigod son
Kill the competition
Get promoted
Turn cool demigod son into the world's greatest warrior
Get to watch cool son raise your reputation even further
Leave Shinra with rebels before cool son brings you back
Never get punished for it
Pull enough strings to kick off the plot of FF7
Spend all of FF7 trolling the fuck out of everyone
Leave Shinra again
Still don't get punished for it
Get to spend lots of time chilling with hot babes on the beach
Get to watch cool son try to blow up the world
Trigger main character into a breakdown
Die on your own terms helping your cool son
Never face actual consequences for your actions
Come back as a cyber ghost years later
Get to annoy the shit out of your rival while in the body of a cool anime edgelord
Will probably figure out another way to come back again
Also Lifestream-Hell doesn't exist in lore
Basically get away with everything
CAN'T STOOGE THE HOOJ
I like to think that Hojo is posting this to his 4chan account, seeing as this is just a green text post minus the colour green.
Hojo canonically runs online forums/fan clubs as "Chairwoman H". There is no way he doesn't have a 4chan account.
Hojo would say some insane slurs on his account. I'd love to read his posts about Cloud. (Didn't write slurs cause I'm not a 4chan user)
>Be me
>Have badass warrior son.
>Send badass warrior on a basic mission with the hope of him being radicalized to his alien mother's beliefs only for some fucking nobody teenager to kill him.
>Decide to experiment on the dumbass teenager and his friend. They are literally the only two experiments from that batch that don't work.
>One of the experiments escapes and takes my son's killer with him.
>My son's killer (we'll call him C, for coma) is literally in a coma and the other guy (I don't know his name and I don't care. I'll call him Z because it's the last letter of the alphabet and that's how little I think of him) somehow manages to escape several armed troopers while dragging C's body with him.
>Send the army to deal with it but they somehow keeps escaping.
>Finally get told that the army dealt with them only to find out C is no longer in a coma and is now a terrorist.
>Find out my son is alive.
>Find out my son is gay for C.
>I am literally so pissed off if I knew my son was gay for C I would have gotten C pregnant or something but no, I just wasted a perfectly good comatose body for five years.
>Literally fuming.
It's great, Alto, don't be a hater. This isn't 4chan.
Hojo would be a master 4chan shitposter and the fact that I can clearly picture this in my mind's eye is making me want to shudder lmao
"Smart as fuck" 💀He literally thinks you can breed dogs with humans. Hojo is dumb as shit, and if you can't see that, you're functionally illiterate. He's a pseudo-scientific hack who stole most of his research from Gast and thinks he's deep because he speaks in sophistry and carries a clipboard. Even Sephy comments upon what a useless mass of neuroses his father was compared to Aerith's dad.
I've long held the belief that Sephiroth stans are the most deluded people in this or any other fandom, but Hojo simps (a category of fan that should not exist in the first place) are starting to give them a run for their money.