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‘You’re obsessed with genitals’ coming from the crowd who literally champion getting surgery to modify and even remove genitalia really is something
Y'all realize trans men were historically included in lesbianism only by virtue of exclusion towards trans women, right? Yhat's not a thing to be celebrated or emulated.
Hell, TERF as a term was coined specifically to refer to the supporters and attendees of the Michivan Wombyn's Festival. Which gladly welcomed trans men in with open arms but turned away trans women because as the name suggests they're idea of a "Real Woman" is an AFAB, regardless of gender identity. Its transmisogynistic as fuck.
yeah female people can be lesbians and male people can’t. male people can’t experience female homosexuality. welcome to earth
another small example of how abolishing patriarchal gender roles is called harmful to trans people because trans ideology relies on patriarchy to exist. trans ideology is an extension of patriarchy and a cope to live comfortably as gender nonconforming under patriarchy therefore incompatible with progressive feminist thought. trans people don’t want to destroy the patriarchy they want to live as passable in it. as someone who is gender nonconforming i understand and empathize with it as quite literally the first step, in this point in history post enough of feminist liberation and technological advancement in the west for women and gay people to have started expressing themselves as human, it’s the first step of people loudly portraying that gender bioessentialism deprives humans of complete expression. but it’s just the first step that was taken due to the feeling of captivity within the patriarchal system and we have to unpack it and keep evolving. its emergence was surrendering to captivity but still trying to be free in the only way they feel is possible, saying “you’re right, men must be masculine and women must be feminine, which means feminine males and masculine females are born in the wrong body and the words man and woman should be redefined to mean anyone masculine or feminine.” real rebels and intellectual leftists should acknowledge that there are 2 sexes, male and female, and patriarchy is a sex-based system of oppression that places males as superior to females and enforces those gender roles on our sexed bodies, which is why conservatives are transphobic because conservatives are sexist, instead of saying “but actually we need the sexist system so trans people can pass into it and feel ignorantly blissfully validated.” thats why you see “trans inclusive misogyny” jokes where transwomen are happy to be catcalled and called bitches and saying estrogen made them worse at math and driving because they want to pass and conform to the role. conservatives are never going to stop being transphobic because they are never going to stop being sexist and by trans people saying “if you talk about sex based oppression or say sex has any impact or meaning at all you’re a terf who hates trans people” and “gender is good and fun now because i say so” they are hindering class consciousness and liberation of the collective for their personal comfort.
a single trans woman asserting her womanhood has done more to 'abolish the gender binary' than 10,000 cis women refusing to wear makeup or shave ever will.
I do sorta wonder if women are likely to identify with so many labels and categories they perceive as "more marginalized" because the marginalization they experience as women already isn't taken seriously even in progressive spaces
The bastardization of feminism began the moment it was watered down by male-serving talking points like "feminism is just equality" and "feminism is for everyone." Which is absolutely not. You cannot achieve "equality" within a system designed from the ground up to strip women of their rights and erase their history. Feminism is the radical liberation of women from sex-based oppression. By shifting the goalpost from dismantling patriarchy to "making everyone feel included," the movement was effectively declawed into a harmless, palatable brand to fit our very oppressors.
The second most insidious betrayal is the institutional push to validate gender ideology. The moment womanhood was redefined as a self-declared identity rather than a material, sex-based reality, female boundaries were stripped away. We’ve reached a peak delusion where males claim to be "lesbians," colonize female-only spaces, and weaponize slurs against women who assert their boundaries and biological reality, now they openly prey on homosexual women. We went from a movement dismantling a systemic hierarchy created by men for men, to one that demands women prioritize male feelings and predatory demands including changing female homosexuality to include them. Feminism was actively hijacked by men to shut women down.
trans women say they need to avoid male bathrooms because males are dangerous and they would be assaulted or raped. but when women say the same thing about not wanting males in our bathrooms, we’re bigots.
trans women are male. they retain male criminality patterns. It’s perfectly reasonable for women to not want males in out private spaces.
women’s comfort and safety shouldn’t be sidelined for any male.
trans girls are allowed to be annoying and stereotypical and socially inept and hyperactive and hypersexual and various types of animalgirl and there's nothing you can do about it. in fact if you're mean to that skirt go spinny reddit trans girl i'm stealing your entire house
”Men are allowed to be [things men have always been].”
when oh when will this cruel world allow men to be hypersexual and misogynistic and openly display their fetishes in public??
Cannot write 2 sentences about women without the need to appease the poor men/save yourself from the terf allegations by insisting they deserve TWICE as much 🙄
Hey ladies, reminder that your physical health is important! But let's not forget what's twice as important: CENTER MALES, FAWN TO MALES, WORSHIP MALES
somehow people are convinced this is the cutting edge of feminism
terfs celebrating that the international chess federation has banned trans women from competing in women's FIDE competitions, because it's sooooooo feminist to argue that women are so biologically inferior and nowhere near as smart as men and thus can't play chess on the same level. girl that's not feminism that's literally just misogyny
I know you’re not looking for an answer but the reason chess sometimes still allows women’s only tournaments has nothing to do with women not being as good at chess, but because chess is such a predominantly boys club where men vastly outnumber women in competitions, and many male chess players are still quite dismissive of women players.
So women made their own chess teams where they could compete together but also didn’t have to worry about sexism from other male coaches and male players.
In fact, we find that gender bias inhibits women chess players; when women are told they are playing against men in online games, for example, they consistently play les aggressively, because we all still live in a sexist society and yes that even affects how we play chess. When women think they’re playing against other women they revert back to aggressive play. (And let’s not ignore the historic dismissal of female chess players by male chess players. Bobby Fischer’s “women are not so smart” quote for example)
So yes. We still allow women to have separate chess competitions, because at it turns out sometimes “equal opportunity” doesn’t actually lead to equality, even in a game like chess.
A vast majority of all chess tournaments are still open to all, coed.
"One study even found that the more men there are taking a maths test in the same room as a solo woman, the lower women's performance become. And, surrounded by men, she herself may come to grudgingly believe that women are indeed naturally inferior in maths.
The mind turns from a focus on seeking success (being bold and creative) to a focus on avoiding failure, which involves being cautious, careful and conservative. A mind that is struggling with negative stereotypes and anxious thoughts is not in a psychologically optimal state for doing taxing intellectual tasks.
Stereotype effects have been seen in women who: record their sex at the beginning of a quantitative test (which is standard practice for many tests); are in the minority as they take the test; have instructors or peers who hold sexist attitudes or have just watched women acting in air-headed ways in commercials."
Delusions of Gender by Cordelia Fine
Add to that the pressure of having to represent all women: indeed, every time a woman fails against a man it is held as proof of the unfitness and inferiority of our entire sex. I also remember a study that showed men try harder when facing a woman, they really make it a point to destroy her, because it's not just a game to them it's about maintaining their dominance. Worth noting that male chess players have been sexually harassing and threatening female chess players since the begining. You make a piss poor political commentator if you refuse to take any of this into account (or are simply ignorant of those facts) as you complain about women not wanting to compete in a male environment.
And lastly, I'll say it again, even if none of this happened, women don't need your permission to spend time together and play together and exist without men. We don't owe men our attention.
"We don't owe men our attention"
Honestly, these people just keep outing themselves. It's like they're negging women or something.
Men are KNOWN to sexually harass women, we KNOW women perform worse among men because of rampant and internalized misogyny (see the points above). So women want their own spaces to get away from that.
The fact that these people are incapable of understanding that women don't want to deal with misogynistic bullshit from men, and instead default to "if you don't put up with men sexually harassing you in chess, you admitting that you're weaker than them. You're lesser? Are you dumber than men, is that it? You're just a stupid woman? That's why you don't want to compete with men who statistically put you in danger? You're inferior?"
Like.. no?
Type of people who look up if you tell them "gullible" is written on the ceiling
they'll call us bioessentialists then turn around and unironically say shit like this. "ooga booga woman is when hot shower"
Males be like wtf I’m not violent I’m going to violently fucking murder you for saying that
I can't read that legally blonde post one more goddamn time but I can read this book and encourage others to also read a fucking book
“Enlightened sexism and embedded feminism often celebrate female-centered knowledge - about fashion, makeup, babies, relationships - that used to be derided as trivial, and insist that such knowledge matters. In this way, enlightened sexism is powerfully seductive, just the way the Spice Girls were: it claims you can have independence, power, and respect and male love and approval and girly, consumerist indulgences all at once, all without costs. And images of ever more empowered, confident, independent women are seamlessly accompanied by incessant harangues that we’re still not thin enough, busty enough, gorgeous enough, or wearing the most enviable logo.
Because of these powerful crosscurrents - both appealing, both profitable, both tapping into our ever-contradictory cultural zeitgeist - girls and women are pulled in opposite directions, between wanting serious success and respect, and wanting acceptance, approval, and love; between wanting power and dreading power. The fantasies laid before us, in their various forms, school us in how to forge a perfect and allegedly empowering compromise between feminism and femininity. And that compromise insists that women strike a bargain. We can play sports, excel at school, go to college, aspire to - and get - jobs previously reserved for men, be working mothers, and so forth. But in exchange, we must obsess about our faces, weight, breast size, clothing brands, decorating, perfectly calibrated child rearing, about pleasing men and being envied by other women. And we should expect no support from the government or our workplaces when it comes to juggling work and family because that’s just a personal “choice” we made, and should live with. So this ersatz, “can do” feminism substitutes our own individual efforts, and our own responsibility to succeed, for what used to be a more collective sensibility about pushing for changes that would help all women.”
bringing this back
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