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Okay, so what I’m getting here is that there are maybe several people in the world who would like to see Talia al Ghul written as a sympathetic, if complicated character, and not a rapist and child-murderer.

phantomchick

Honestly the stupid rapist thing is extreeeeemely recent and only got folded into canon for the sake of damian’s existence, Talia as a character deserved better.

She canonically killed rapists and human traffickers and saved women and children in the earlier comics. The things that have been done to her character only for the sake of further developing Damian are a case of unfair and unrealistic ooc-ness as well as bad writing.

No seriously it’s bad writing, any time a good character is put down or has aspects of them downgraded and destroyed so as to make a different character look better by comparison? That is a mark of bad writing. We faced a similar problem with the new52 when they had Tim Drake look stupid and less skilled by comparison to Harper Row, as a means of establishing her intelligence in the eyes of the readers.

This was also the case during the cursed era of red headed Jason back when Dick was Batman - Jason’s murderousness had the effect of making Damian’s easier to swallow by comparison, Jason was portrayed as the bad irredeemable ex robin and Damian the good one, the struggling hero, it especially sucked as other following stories featuring Damian’s character growth were able to contain nuances while not lowering any of the other heroic characters as a crutch to elevate Damian.

In the case of Talia while it’s not an explicit make her look bad to make him look good situation, the negative out of character actions she takes and the persona of the villain mother that’s given to her - when Talia has ALWAYS been a grey area rather than an actual villain or a heartless murderer - are a means to making Bruce and Damian’s narratives much more simple. Talia kills so she has to be an evil rapist who’d kill her own baby. Jason kills but it has to be only as a cry out for Bruce’s attention. Yes it’s comics but honestly it’s just not as interesting, they change it from Damian having two good parents with different moral values and different ideas about justice to just Damian having an evil villain mother and a good hero father. The clashes between them all are less nuanced as a result. It makes Damian’s choice a black and white good or evil thing when it could have been more.

And you know they just had Talia send assassins to kill her child for the pathos on Damian’s side of the equation. And they only had one actually succeed because they wanted to kill another robin and deal with the aftermath’s effects on Batman. No look given to Talia’s reaction to his death.

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"Honestly the stupid rapist thing"

^and that's when I stopped reading!