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Didn't you retweet incest porn on 9/11?
we all mourn in different ways
"why do men watch porn instead of just having sex with their girlfriends?" is already silly for numerous reasons, but seeing it being used as like. a feminist talking point is so crazy to me because like of the implication that being in a relationship means being available for sex all the time, which you know. doesn't feel great for women i think.
We should start asking that question of all people who enjoy fiction.
Why are you watching a mystery instead of going to a real clifftop mansion and killing your long‐lost aunt for her secret inheritance?
Why are you reading Moby Dick when you could let a real whale eat your leg?
Why are you watching Pokémon when you could fight a real pigeon?
BAD NEWS: it will not be the same forever
GOOD NEWS: it will not be the same forever
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wait is the odyssey rated R in america? That's so...
Me, having watched the odyssey and loved it, talking about it with my beloved and smart mutuals about the meaning and themes of this ancient epic and the masterful way Nolan was able to make this foundational western story feel modern in a way that still paid tribute: wow, I’m sure the people of tumblr dot com— the people who love Themes and Meanings and Messages and conversations around the social construct, of consequences, and of the intricacies of mankind— will understand
Also me, scrolling the tag for (1) minute:
oh i forgot you all are stupid. that’s my b.
Okay. For my money, the entire thesis of Chris Nolan’s 2026 film The Odyssey is that society chokes and sputters and dies when we abuse, ignore, or violate social norms like the laws of hospitality. That is not really what The Odyssey (the book/poem) is about, but I can clearly see why in the horror that is the 2020s, someone could read The Odyssey and go oh my god that’s a lot of bad dropping in. That’s a lot of bad visits. That’s a clear vision of how the loss of social norms and cohesion fucks you up and how war, literal, brutal war, is a terrible wound that destroys your humanity and your understanding of what civilization and society is. I don’t know that the iteration of Greek society that ultimately birthed the poem would agree with Nolan’s take, but I think this movie is quite ideologically coherent, that Nolan knew exactly what he was trying to say with each and every adaptational change, and I think he wasn’t nuts for using one of the most famous classical western civilization works as a way to make that argument.
"Opposing genocide isn't antisemitic," while technically being a true statement, implies that you have said "I oppose genocide" to which Jews have said "That is antisemitic." It is making a link between Jewish concern about antisemitism and support for genocide. Regardless of whether you think Israel's conduct in the Gaza Strip meets the threshold for genocide, you are implicitly encouraging your peers to connect Jews/Judaism with genocide. So, antisemitic
"opposing genocide isnt antisemitic" has the same vibes as "opposing terrorism isnt islamophobic" and "opposing child predators isnt homophobic" in this essay i will
It's also specifically a response to Jews calling out antisemitism in the first place.
Literally the only context in which that word salad of a sentence would occur is if you're talking about Israel in some way and someone says, "no, that's antisemitic."
It's an impressive move, because we already had "antizionism isn't antisemitism!"
And sure, that's an INCREDIBLY ridiculous statement. Like, OMG?! ALERT THE PRESS, THERE'S AN ENTIRE TOPIC YOU CAN TALK ABOUT WITHOUT EVER RISKING SAYING SOMETHING ANTISEMITIC??? Is antizionism also inherently never racist, misogynist, Islamophobic, ableist, etc?! YOU'VE SOLVED OPPRESSION!!!
But since everybody was pretending it WASN'T a ridiculous statement, there was no real need to take it to the next level. By rephrasing it to imply that the only reason anyone would ever accuse you of hating Jews was that you oppose genocide.
The true fucking BEAUTY of this move is that it is wildly antisemitic to genuinely believe there's a specifically Jewish movement in favor of genocide.
Like, yeah, THAT'S what the history of the past 200 years have shown us. Jews COMMIT genocide. Jews just loooove a good genocide.
It's so poetic and sad that they would do to others what was just done to them!
Sure, they haven't enslaved 26,000,000 people, or any people at all. They haven't built industrial death factories. They haven't killed 41% of the Palestinians on earth, or 66% of the people of Palestine. They haven't developed a massive propaganda system telling the world that Palestinians are the cause of all its problems. They haven't stripped Palestinian Israelis of their citizenship, their businesses, their jobs, or their bank accounts.
It's extremely antisemitic to erase the entire Holocaust, or claim that Jews are actually doing any of the above because "they're the real Nazis."
Defending themselves by huffily saying, "you just think I'm biased against Jews because I oppose genocide," is kind of an evil genius move.
I was already going to reblog with illustrations, and then I saw @intergalacticle in the replies saying, "that is not how anything works. people point out the fact that the government of israel is committing genocide, then they get accused of antisemitism for criticizing israel, which is what actually prompts them to point out that being against genocide is not antisemitic. No one is just randomly being like "man, genocide is so totally not cool" for no reason, only for a Jewish person to randomly interject to accuse them of antisemitism completely unprompted."
No one is saying that's what's happening.
Let's see what happens when you throw "opposing genocide isn't antisemitic" into Twitter's search bar!
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What he actually says in that clip is that even though there's been a ceasefire for months, the Green Party in England is exploiting Gaza by using its position on Gaza, an international issue, to gain city council seats, which are about hyper-local issues.
He does say that the reason this works is "antisemitism sells."
And here we see the problem: in order to understand that, you need to know enough about the issue to unpack it.
"This works because antisemitism sells" means:
Many people have an immediate emotional reaction to Israel that they don't have to any other country doing the same things or worse.
Let's assume that Israel actually committed genocide and ethnic cleansing in Gaza. It must be virtually empty of Palestinians now, just as Myanmar has become virtually empty of the Rohingya Muslims, over a slightly longer period, through active genocide and ethnic cleansing.
But even if Israel went door to door raping and burning people to death until entire villages were razed to the ground, as Myanmar did, you cannot get votes for British city council seats by trumpeting your support for the Rohingya.
Most people have never heard of the Rohingya. Three years ago, most people had never heard of Gaza. But they have certainly heard of Jews.
And the past century, in particular, has seen intense efforts to spread propaganda globally, portraying Jews as untrustworthy, dishonest, shady, sneaky, scheming, power-hungry, money-hungry people. In a word: sus.
Many people who don't consciously "have a problem with Jews" have still absorbed a lot of unconscious bias from the world around them. Just as we do with every axis of oppression.
A lot of people mentally split Jews into "the good ones I have no problem with" and "the bad ones," just as people do with every marginalized group. But with Jews, "the bad ones" isn't "I do think some women are manipulative hos," it's "I do think there's a Jewish movement to commit genocide."
Now let's do another one, and hope that those bullet points unpacked enough to cover it too!
First of all, Jackson Hinkle is a white supremacist. And he's joined a lot of white supremacists in setting up a fun progressive-to-Nazi pipeline, to hide behind and trap people who would otherwise loathe them.
What is this person replying to?
Greens again; apparently Polanski is the head of the Green Party there.
Speaking on a visit to a synagogue, Starmer labelled Polanski “disgraceful” for saying it was important to distinguish between an actual threat to the Jewish community in the UK after recent arson attacks and the “perception of unsafety”.
Labour have also criticised Polanski for saying in another interview that he had been wrong to previously criticise Jeremy Corbyn for not properly dealing with antisemitism as Labour leader, and that the issue had been weaponised at the time.
This entire article is the Guardian doing what it does the most, which is stir up drama to get engagement.
When Polanski said that, nine out of what ended up being 11 attacks on London Jews had already occurred. The article brushes right past all that to focus on what he thought about antisemitism being weaponized. And his response was basically that he'd HEARD it had been, sometimes.
So basically:
1. Polanski said it was weird that Starmer was accusing him of antisemitism, which he didn't do; he accused him of not taking antisemitism seriously enough.
2. Someone quoted that on Twitter.
3. Someone immediately assumed that Polanski was being accused of antisemitism for talking about Gaza, which is not the case.
4. And immediately jumped to, "Opposing genocide isn't antisemitism," while linking to a white supremacist as supporting evidence.
Okay, here's a standalone one; that's interesting.
Literally nobody asked.
This one is the weakest argument I've seen in a while.
There were a lot of Zionist movements, many with totally different goals, but none of them were fascist or ethno-supremacist.
Hitler made the "I have no problem with Jewish people because of their religion" pretty much useless for everybody else.
(Ethno-supremacist is just a fancy way of getting mad that there's a country with a Jewish minority. It's just, "oh, so we're not good enough for you anymore?! You think you're better than us now?!" Like, no: people just got tired of the literally constant pogroms and systemic oppression.)
It's horrifying how quickly the "Epstein was a Mossad agent!" conspiracy theory spread from Christian Nationalists to the far left.
The Epstein-Mossad conspiracy theory continues to be a recurring theme in fringe and far-right discourse. Recently, it has gained renewed traction among Trump's MAGA base.... Prominent right-wing voices, including Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, and Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, have openly accused Epstein of being an Israeli agent, while also criticizing efforts to dismiss such claims as antisemitic conspiracy theories.
This new push was spurred by a MAGA Holocaust denier for the lolz. Because of course it fucking was.
Okay, just one more. Someone saw a tweet praising AOC for saying, "Hey so marching into a predominantly Jewish neighborhood and leading with a chant saying 'we support Hamas' is a disgusting and antisemitic thing to do. Pretty basic!"
And knee-jerk responded with:
Protesting in a Jewish neighborhood and chanting about Palestine would be antisemitic for the exact same reason that people claim it's NOT: choosing a Jewish neighborhood as the site for your unrelated protest is pretty clearly Making It About The Jews.
It's not protesting at the Israeli Embassy. It's not protesting downtown to get the most visibility and spread awareness. It's not protesting about local issues in your own neighborhood.
It's going into a residential neighborhood you're not from, and acting like your protest has something to do with it.
Marching your protest into a Jewish neighborhood and chanting "We support Hamas" is an explicitly and openly hateful act against Jews.
Because Hamas, aka the Islamic Resistance Movement (that's what Hamas is an acronym for, in Arabic):
Explicitly believes that the entire land, both Israel and Palestine, and "all other lands accessed and consecrated by Muslims at the time of conquering for all Muslim generations until the day of Resurrection," is rightfully Muslim land forever.
Explicitly states that the Jews are its enemy: that "our battle with the Jews is long and dangerous, requiring all dedicated efforts."
As a result, Hamas considers Israel to be Occupied Palestine. Its goal is to free Palestine from them, and "to raise the banner of Allah on every inch of Palestine."
In 2021, it held a conference revealing its plans to establish its own caliphate across the whole land, once Israel has been annihilated.
(Something Hamas has been advocating for and working towards pretty hard ever since it seized control of the Gaza Strip in 2007 and established a brutal dictatorship.)
It talks about drawing up rules for which Jews will live, which ones must be killed or prosecuted, and which ones can flee. And that “educated Jews and experts in the areas of medicine, engineering, technology, and civilian and military industry… should not be allowed to leave.”
Hamas explicitly states that it will immediately issue "a direct continuation of the Pact of ‘Umar Bin Al-Khattab," which is the system of laws that subjugated indigenous Christians and Jews during 1,300 years of caliphate rule.
October 7 was a sort of "proof of concept." A test to see what more they needed to meet their goal. Hamas leaders have promised to repeat their attack until Israel has been annihilated.
On October 7, Hamas explicitly sought out Jewish civilians to kill. They did also kill Arabs, in some cases. But mostly, they tried to get Arabs to tell them where the Jews were. They repeatedly mocked Arabs as "traitors" for, e.g., working for Jews. There are also recordings of Hamas fighters looking for Jews specifically, and boasting about how many Jews they personally killed.
TL;DR: Hamas is not Palestine. It is not activism. It is not resistance.
It is a group that has explicitly said very openly, for DECADES, that it wants to commit genocide next door and take over. While telling us that actually, that's what ISRAEL wants.
It's a group that Gazans have been protesting throughout the entire war, and before it. While the supposedly pro-Palestine movement silences and erases them.
This one is definitely the most egregiously ignorant and blatantly wrong example of "Opposing genocide isn't antisemitic!" I saw.
One I've encountered, as a variation on a theme, is people saying "so you support genocide?" when I talk about antisemitism. You can literally say "I fucking hate having to be afraid to go pray" and have someone tell you Gaza has it worse and you support genocide.
Like bitch, that's an entirely different sentence. Do you think I'm crushing the heads of Gazan children under my car wheels every time I drive to shul or something? Because I live in Arizona. There is a notable lack of Gazan children here, possibly because Gaza is seven thousand-ish miles away. I want to pray without being afraid today is the day a gunman gets in or a bomb threat is real. That's it. And apparently that's too fucking much to ask, because wanting to pray is "supporting genocide."
@thelawfulchaotic, more context of relevance.
the prisoner scene something something rituals
Hey. Why isn’t the moon landing a national holiday in the US. Isn’t that fucked up? Does anyone else think that’s absurd?
It was a huge milestone of scientific and technological advancement. (Plus, at the time, politically significant). Humanity went to space! We set foot on a celestial body that was not earth for the first time in human history! That’s a big deal! I’ve never thought about it before but now that I have, it’s ridiculous to me that that’s not part of our everyday lives and the public consciousness anymore. Why don’t we have a public holiday and a family barbecue about it. Why have I never seen the original broadcast of the moon landing? It should be all over the news every year!
It’s July 20th. That’s the day of the moon landing. Next year is going to be the 54th anniversary. I’m ordering astronaut shaped cookie cutters on Etsy and I’m going to have a goddamn potluck. You’re all invited.
Hey. Hey. Tumblr. Ides of March ppl. We can do this
Hell yeah moon holiday
Ooh coming up we should celebrate
PITCH: We call it Moon Day, and then every 7 years when it falls on a Monday, that's an even BIGGER deal and we call that Moon Day Monday and go absolutely apeshit about it (the next Moon Day Monday is in 2026 so we have a couple trial runs first)
HAPPY MOON DAY EVERYONE
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which of these classical texts have you read?
the iliad, the odyssey, and the aeneid
the iliad and the odyssey, not the aeneid
the iliad only
the odyssey only
the aeneid only
the aeneid and the iliad, not the odyssey
the aeneid and the odyssey, not the iliad
I have read none of these
"what if I've read part of it" if it's a large enough part that you would consider yourself to Have Read It in general contexts, then it counts. if it's not, then it doesn't. only you can be the judge of that, but I'm not giving you a nuance button.
any translations count, but abridged retellings don't
obviously, there are lots of other classical texts out there. you might have read none of these and be an expert on greek tragedy. I'm not judging your classical knowledge so you don't need to tell me all that. I'm just curious about combos of these specific texts and their popularity, bc a post i just saw got me thinking about it
#i want to hear from the 1.7% who have read the illiad and the aenied but not the odyssey #<- SAME #you read everything EXCEPT the most iconic story?? #how?? why?? (via @shrinkthisviolet and prev @bobakick)
hi it's me op that's my combo!
firstly, i don't think i've ever particularly thought of the odyssey as more iconic than the iliad, so that's the exact kind of cultural attitude towards the texts that prompted me to make this poll; it seemed from conversations that @postarcadian was having in the notes of related posts that in north america at least, it's very dominant, but i wanted to see how widespread this was. i think this particular dominance or preference is not global. in england, for example, you wouldn't read the odyssey in school unless a) your school offered classical civilisation as an elective subject (already a minority of schools) and b) opted to do the odyssey-specific module (only one of lots of modules). if they don't do class civ, you probably wouldn't read any ancient texts in school!
my school did class civ but not the odyssey module, so it never came up, which brings me onto:
this is the module for which i read the aeneid and the iliad when i was 17 and in secondary school. we read the whole thing although the commentary passages were from selected books. the odyssey was not relevant to this module and we did not have time to read it unnecessarily. but you can see based on the themes and focus of the modules why the aeneid-iliad combo would be chosen!
(sidenote to the person in the notes who said they think you need graduate level study to understand the cultural context and references in the aeneid... i don't think you do? they're teaching this to 17-year-olds reading in translation with no latin background? i mean, obviously if you do it at a graduate level you're going to understand it more and in greater depth and get more nuance and whatever. but it's not Impossible To Comprehend The Aeneid And Its Themes as a layperson. can attest that 17-year-old me managed it well enough)
now obviously i'm 30 now so there's been loads of time to read the odyssey since then for funsies. and i've had it in my house since 2018. and i've started it multiple times. and i just can't get through it tbh. one day i'll get there maybe. but as a medievalist the latin texts were always a lot more relevant (medieval authors primarily had access to the classical world via latin) and i work on heroic literature of a very particular sort so i've ended up more in the aeneid - statius - latin histories end of things insofar as i look at anything classical (which isn't very much)
i have however read Merugud Uilix which is the medieval irish version of the odyssey and which is completely bonkers and absurd and absolutely nothing like the actual Odyssey
and finally there's an extent to which when something is very culturally well-known you just kinda take it in via osmosis and then it feels less compelling to read the original. like i read a bunch of retellings as a small child i think? and things like Ithaka by Adele Geras. and that filled the niche. that was enough odyssey for me. wasn't really fussed. maybe one day i'll get through the rest of the real thing though.
Unsolicited Odyssey hot takes: it was good. I mean, it's not The Best Ever by any means. But I think any adaptation of The Odyssey is decent because it's a story thousands of years old and we can tell it how we want and that's fine.
Now for some vauge spoilers:
John Leguizamo should win an Oscar. At least a nomination.
I liked the way they portrayed Athena, because honestly, was she even THERE, or was Odysseus just having a ptsd induced hallucination? Was this an aspect of Athena? Athena the merciful? The forgiving? Weird if true. Whatever. I liked it.
Okay the crumbling Ithaca from the very beginning. I know they wanted it to look like Ancient Greece, and location meant a lot, but they would have at least repaired their infrastructure BEFORE the war. And for Circe's sake, paint your damn staues people!
Cerce's whole thing was absolutely perfect. Idc I have no notes men of war are often pigs.
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Can anyone explain wtf is going on here especially a Korean speaker
someone on reddit explained 😭
That is one of the most astronomical fuck up translations I have ever seen.
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