Dumb Dog

It/Its/Itself | Adult | My pfp is what I feel like constantly

[dumbdogdiscourse]

Like honestly I just needed to separate discourse from my primary blog because it was causing me too much stress. I also use it to reblog trans (positivity) posts without worrying if op is weird haha.

I'm going to keep most of my identity private because I feel like a lot of discourse is tainted by identity politics---that is, "you're x so you can't criticize xyz"---which is fundamentally detrimental to critique/constructive criticism/conversation. I want to see if I can get around that. I'm also just a bit curious about if people will interact with me differently.

Reminder that you are NOT entitled to know ANYTHING about me. I have given you my pronouns for ease. If I valued this blog over ease I would have taken that away too. Yes, I am in the process of reading various transfeminist works, but due to personal reasons it will take me a while.

In an attempt to make my blog as clear as possible, I will be using both transandrophobia and isomisogyny in reference to their original definitions

Transandrophobia: the way that the fear of men impacts the material reality and mental/physical health of transgender men. [here] is the original post.

Isomisogyny: the way misogyny impacts trans men/the intersection between misogyny and transphobia specific to trans men

ALL MY POSTS ARE GENUINE. I allow genuine and kind discussion ONLY. If you insult, infantilize, condescend, or reply sarcastically to me the conversation is over. I try my best to word my posts as clearly and respectfully as possible. If I see that I have made a mistake or misunderstood something, I will try to correct it. Thank you.

[dataqueery]

Trans men are men, therefore they have male privilege. If you say they don’t, you’re saying trans men aren’t actually men.

We’re using the same word to refer to two different things. There’s men (gender) and men (class).

Trans men are men (gender). Cis men are men (gender). -> Cis men are included in men (class). Trans men aren’t because the patriarchy doesn’t recognize trans men as men. -> Being a member of men (class) is what gives you male privilege and the power that comes with it.

Therefore:

Trans men don’t have male privilege.

[dumbdogdiscourse]

I see people often saying that this separation between the gender "man" and the class "man" implies that trans men are not men. I disagree. When I was reading about Black Liberation Theology, the interesting thing I ran into was that the author was frequently (though not always) distinguishing between White (class) and White (skin color). Is this implying that not all white people are "really" white? No, of course not; it is, however, clarifying between white, the sociopolitcal class, and white, the skin color (that people perceived as not-quite-white fall into, such as Jews, Arabs, Irish people [depending on time period], and some Indigenous populations).

This same idea is important when we talk about men, and marginalized men in particular. The difference between white (class) and white (skin color) is that all of the class are the skin color, but not all the skin color are perceived as the class, if that makes sense. It's the same for trans men. Both cis and trans men belong to men (gender); however, trans men are not perceived as "really" men, the same way Arabs aren't "really" white, and thus don't belong to white (class).

I hope this makes sense.

[dumbdogdiscourse]

If you think trans men/transmascs are more or uniquely likely to hold misogynistic viewpoints post-coming-out then you are transphobic and falling victim to TERF talking points

[dumbdogdiscourse]

If you think trans women/transfems are more or uniquely likely to hold misogynistic viewpoints pre-coming-out then you are transphobic and falling victim to TERF talking points

[vinterfeminism]

I really really really need tumblr users to stop being transmisogynistic like years ago. I keep seeing posts along the lines of "I don't trust any trans women or anyone who calls themselves a transfeminist atp bc of xyz" and I have gotten several asks atp along the lines of "omg I can't believe you're a amab trans woman who actually supports afabs trans men, enbies, and intersex people!!!"

I cannot stress this enough- this is transmisogynistic and I am tired of seeing it. I see too many people using asab terminology when it comes to trans people and also trying to like. Figure out my asab when I have already said I am asabless???? I just delete those asks but I really am tired of it. Be normal about trans women. Trans women are not the enemies of trans men. It is a small handful of hateful people spreading bad rhetoric. If you don't trust people who have trans woman/transfem/transfeminist in bio, then please put down the phone, touch grass, and actually talk to trans women. Preferable ones irl. Stop making "jokes" about how trans women are sexually immoral, stop searching TME or TMA on the blogs of only trans women but not doing the same for literally anyone else, stop calling "transfeminist/transfeminism" transandrophobic dogwhistles, and for the love of God just don't be transmisogynistic!!! It is really really easy to just. Not be a transmisogynist???

Also I barely say this on any of my other posts but don't derail this post please. This is about trans women and transmisogyny. Because I am a trans woman and I care about transmisogyny. Thank you.

[vanillalolita]

i cant even begin to form the words to explain how fucking baffling and straight up wrong this is

[dumbdogdiscourse]

Oh!

[hard-times-paramore]

Okay, real talk now. People love to tag male characters in posts about women, but this post is gonna take this seriously. Is there actually a canonically male character you believe is a trans woman? Or at least has made into a trans woman for a fanart or a fanfic? Excluding the ones canonically implied.

Sound off in the tags! Link to the fanart or fic if available. Do it. Give me the girls. Make more women.

Edit: here's mine!

[therapatical]

I'm so serious. transfeminism includes abortion advocacy. transfeminism includes endometriosis advocacy and PCOS/PMOS advocacy and menstruation education and autoimmunity research and reproductive cancer research. transfeminism includes advocating for all trans people impacted by misogyny and it includes trans people who are collectively included in the feminist movement at large.

you do not get to tell anybody that they are not entitled to space within transfeminist conversations when their bodies and lives are on the fucking line.

if your "transfeminism" does not fight for the rights of all trans people, then it's not transfeminism.

[yaoigaysexaura]

you can't say "stop making everything about men" about a group of marginalised people who have been historically erased and never centered in any conversations that affect them. that is erasure. you are perpetuating the system that leads to these people being trafficked, raped, and killed without ever being remembered as more than a "tragic woman"

[lowhitpointspuppyplagueharpylady]

People don't get that non passing trans women are not seen as men, they are seen as non passing trans women and are treated the way they are according to the social script for trans women, which is transmisogyny.

[finnslay]

things you DO NOT need to be a man

a dick

he/him pronouns

XY chromosomes

things you DO need to be a man

the swiftness of a coursing river

the force of a great typhoon

the strength of a raging fire

the mysteriousness of the dark side of the moon

^this post was brought to you by LGBT^

Let's

Get down to

Business

To defeat the huns

[vinterfeminism]

It's kinda crazy that some people see that I call myself an intersex transfem and if they don't like what I have to say about transfeminism, they just lie and say I am not transfem. Very transfeminist of you, to strip me of my trans womanhood! /sar

I think I have said it here but I will say it again. Even though assigned gender and sex does not matter to me in terms of labels such as transfem and transmasc, I was initially raised as a boy for the first 13 or 14 years or so of my life and then became a girl. I still lived as a trans girl (and later a trans woman) up until a little under a year ago when I learned I was intersex, and switched from using she/her to it/its. Yes I am at risk for being sent to a male prison, yes I am at risk for being harassed and attacked by transmisogynists, yes I am a trans woman. Even if you disagree with my opinions, can you pretty please not make up lies about what you assume my gender is? I have had people reblog or send me anon asks where they say I am (c)afab and this is not true. I do not identify with any agab, and you assuming agabless = afab is very disgustingly intersexist.

[dumbdogdiscourse]

Yup, and the assumption that everyone that disagrees with you is "afab"/transmasc is, frankly, transmisogynistic (and intersexist). I've seen this happen to imjunebitch and---correct me if I'm wrong---transfemme-shelterdog, among others.

[lgbtranswoman]

Ice cold takes from a Transgender Woman:

Men are not inherently Evil

Everyone has the capacity for evil

Transgender Men are men

Transgender Women are women

Excluding Cisgender Men from your spaces requires Transgender Men to out themselves if they want to engage (Same for Women)

Anyone can be Non-Binary, there is no "look" or requirement

Non-binary masculine presenting people should be welcome in queer spaces, many are just treated as men and predators

Non-binary feminine presenting people should be welcome in queer spaces without being seen as "Woman-Lite"

Edited the wording on the first point because too many terfs keep thinking I'm their friend.

[itsdappleagain]

jesus no

[intersexcultureis]

B slur tw + discourse mention tw /

Intersex culture is.. as an intersex person I'm tired of perisex trans folks calling themselves the b slur ( bæddel ).

You can't say that, perisex baby /nay /ref

next perisex person to self identify as a baeddel gets to watch me shoot an angel myself while i make eye contact. next perisex person to self identify as a baeddel is getting taken away by a flock of like minded eagles. next perisex person to self identify as a baeddel is getting their soul condemned to hell. i am so tired.

[dumbdogdiscourse]

this and the h slur.

[tboy-cock]

whats interesting about the take that the word femboy is used derogatorily towards trans women to masculinize them is that its true, but it also applies to trans men. trans men are also labeled as femboys in an effort to feminize us. also, the word butch is also used derogatorily towards trans men in order to feminize us, BUT the word butch is also used derogatorily towards trans women to masculinize them. and all of these terms are used against nonbinary people to force them into a gender binary/expression that they dont want. and all of these terms can be used by all of these groups and the people who use them are valid, but they are also used derogatorily towards trans people who DONT identify those ways in an effort to misgender us. interesting stuff

[love-ardour-anarchism]

Once again yelling on my soap box about how you don’t GET to love my posts on the beauty and complexity of butch identity and queering masculinity if you don’t support trans men and transmasculine people.

Butch identity doesn’t just go hand in hand with trans manhood and transmasculinity: they are chosen family, they’re friends and comrades, lovers and beloved.

If you deny the lived experiences of trans men and transmasculine people you don’t get to pretend like you see the beauty in the complexity of butchness.

Fuck you, fuck off, you don’t get to claim you love me while you hate my closest kin.

[tboy-cock]

was talking to my gf about my fear of dying young for being trans and my mom putting my deadname on my gravestone, and she said "i hope that never happens, but if it does, i will carve your name into your grave myself if i have to." and i think theres something extremely raw about that sentiment and trans community in general. you can kill only our bodies, but you cant kill transsexuality