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spurgie-cousin

I know everyone is mad at JB and M but really they must be heartbroken their son is in Jail. They must either think he is guilty or set up by the government. I dont understand why JB didnt go and listen to all of the evidence. Surely one of the other kids who attended would say the evidence was all there to their parents? I also wonder if Austin has approached them?

I'm sure they are heartbroken and probably in a lot of denial. I can only speculate as to why Jim Bob does anything that he does........I've always just assumed he's a little bit delusional, in a literal way. Not to get all armchair psychologist again, but I think a lot of the reason he created the life he has is because it's a very simple, morally black and white way of living; I don't think JB is kept up at night much struggling with the dilemma of being a good person, if that makes sense. And it's comfortable in his alternate universe where there are definite, infallible rules/truths about the nature of good and evil.

So I think anything that challenges that and adds moral complexity is just kind of immediately deflected. I think Josh gave him an excuse and he accepted it and isn't willing to face evidence to the contrary that might make him believe otherwise, because that would also mean entertaining the idea that a child he raised the 'right' way might have done this objectively horrible thing. And then what does that say about him, or even about what God thinks of him? Did Josh turn out this way because of JB’s own moral failing? This opens up a whole pandoa’s box of late-night existential crises.

Assuming that any of that is true, I don't think he'd be super open to discussions like the ones you've mentioned. I've always got the vibe that he was kind of hard to communicate with in a genuine way, even from the early days (he just has that walled-off dad aura that is palpable idk) so I don't know.

Just wanted to pop in and say that mtnbambi has explicitly said on har blog that she has "insider first and second ha[n]d accounts of some ultra isolated or secretive society or religious sect, like the IBLP/ American fundies or the various Mormon polygamist sects based around the southwest US"

I can send you the screenshot if you'd want?

yes please! my dms should be open i think

terf turned tradfem sounds like them yeah. they reblogged a post saying that men who wear nail polish and are feminists are anti women??? like what... the op of that post reblogged anti terf stuff but yeah.. i thought they were someone who was tired of weird fundie snark bs like on duggar snark but nah.. they are a tradfem

yeah it definitely seemed like they were taking things personally. i thought that speculating over people kissing based on the cold sores they have was a little goofy, but that person was really salty and judgy for no reason, especially since it wasn’t like anyone was saying something out of left field for a snark blog. i honestly didn’t know that someone could go from being a terf to being a tradwife lol

fundiesarefunny

mtn bambi or whatever reblogged a whole post about feminism being bad plus some weird blogs. that makes their whole reblogs even more sus

All makes sense now thank u❤️❤️❤️

precious-and-neat-fundies

.2 seconds into looking at their blog and i already know they’re a massive terf

ETA: apparently former terf turned tradfem ??? interesting

apparently cathy dillard blocked me on twitter at some point… i literally have not interacted with her at all

Kristen Clark's Instagram: May 9, 2021

Her last post on Instagram was December 23, 2020.

precious-and-neat-fundies

hoping for the best but i am very confused

gossipgirldefined

HOLY SHIT

girldeclined

Holy shit, I guess this explains why Bethany has gone into another meltdown about how she's a "real" woman because she breastfeeds and had a bio son??? Just when you think she couldn't get any worse. She can't stand not being the center of attention instead of just!!! being happy!!!! for her sister!!!??? 😱

granddaddycaldwell

I’m disgusted in her. I always am, but even more so now knowing this.

fundiesarefunny

Ew yeah it would make sense if that’s why she lost her mind

Amy King's Instagram: May 8, 2021

I feel weird about this friendship/relationship.

countingandsnarkingon

Katie Joy is just taking advantage of amy so that she can one day take advantage of Jill and profit off her trauma. Truly think that's her eventual end goal

undercoverduggarblog

i agree, if i were truly friends with someone i wouldn’t make youtube videos about their family

fundiebabynamebible

All Katie cares about is the ‘tea’. She doesn’t care that Amy and Jill are genuinely suffering and trying to deal with their trauma. She’s keeping Amy sweet so that she does a big interview with her and gives her some gossip. If Amy were to block her or live a much more private life then the ‘oh I’m so supportive of you Amy’ act would stop.

fundamental-cactus

And all Amy has done here is further ostracized herself from her Duggar relatives. They won’t share with her anymore because they know she is going to share their private info with Katie.

Wow, and I thought I couldn’t possibly dislike Katie Joy more.

wtffundiefamilies

“I don’t even know where to begin with what we need to learn from this situation with Josh Duggar. If you haven’t paid attention to updates, you should, because it is a glaring example of the problems we have in our legal system, and especially in conservative culture. (thread)”

Worth a read.

fundiebabynamebible

I see people blaming Anna all the time and I defend her. Rachel speaks so much truth. Anna has so much more to worry about than keeping a check on Covenant Eye and Josh knew that so he exploited it. She has to take care of the kids, cook, clean, keep an eye on Josh’s internet activity, teach, submit to Josh whenever he wants her to. It must be exhausting.

The way this cult takes advantage of women is unacceptable. It’s abuse but seen as acceptable by some because it’s somebody in God’s name. The judge should’ve seen that Maria was uncomfortable having Josh around and denied bail. It should never have been allowed and if anything goes wrong the judge is as much to blame.

We must all do our bit. Keep talking, keep fighting for the women in this cult.

fortheloveofallthatsfundie

In other news, Christina is still pregnant

Holy fuck is she ok

I just spit my water out ^

bruh is she pregnant with my nightstand?!?!?!

1000000% I think that it’s Josiah and Lauren that are trying to leave, according to Derick’s tweets.

undercoverduggarblog

what makes you think it’s them? because they were on the zoom?

loveablelennon-deactivated20240

i’ve just had a strong gut feeling that lauren and josiah were next for the past year. not sure how i feel about them being on the zoom and what that means, but something in my soul just tells me that lauren and josiah are the next to leave. fingers crossed!

I think it’s Si + Lauren and John and Abbie that are next to leave. John was basically on his own until he met Abbie. Then they became a part of the show. I wonder if they stayed around just so the kids could have another responsible adult around, and a responsible male adult around at that. John was/is the protective oldest brother that Pest never was. But I think this is the final straw for John and Abbie. I just hope they’ll be able to help Jana as much as possible. I’m sure John doesn’t want to leave his twin sister all alone and in charge of everything.

fortheloveofallthatsfundie

I so badly want all of this to be true

precious-and-neat-fundies

a tell-all resulting from the collaborative effort of duggar defectors is one of my biggest pipe dreams but now more than ever i want it to be true so badly. the cultural impact would be ginormous

duggardata

A Few Comments

Duggar Data absolutely, unequivocally condemns child abuse in any form. The charges levied against Joshua Duggar are truly, truly appalling. If he is guilty of this, his conduct is intolerable; he must be punished, and prevented from doing this ever again.

Duggar Data stands in solidarity with victims. Recognizing that this topic may be difficult for some, I’ll be making an effort to tag potentially triggering posts with #TW child abuse. And, any Post discussing Josh’s current situation will also be tagged with #josh duggar arrest.

If you’re in crisis, help is available. If you’re in the United States, the National Sexual Assault Hotline is available day or night at 1–800–656–HOPE (4673), or via online chat. You’re not alone.

Stay strong, y’all.

fundiebabynamebible

Just reblogging to add some helpline info for anyone in the UK.

Please, please, please don’t feel embarrassed to reach out and speak to someone. Whatever your situation, there are people out there who can and want to give you the support you need. Don’t suffer in silence.

National Association for People Abused In Childhood - 0808 801 0331

Rape Crisis (Women Only) - 0808 802 9999 (England and Wales) or 0808 801 0302 (Scotland)

Survivors UK (Men Only) - 02035983898

ihaveafundamentalproblem

I’d also like to reblog and say I stand in solidarity with the victims and I believe you. You are important and worthy. I love you

The following list of services isn’t extensive however can allow folxs to find additional resources.

If you’re experiencing crisis in Canada and are over the age of 30 you can call 1-833-456-4566 (24/7) or text 45645 (between 4PM-12AM EDT)

If you are in crisis and aged 5-29 you are able to text Kids Help Phone by doing the following: text CONNECT to 686868. Or call 1-800-668-6868 at any time for either.

If you are First Nations, Inuit or Métis you can contact Hope for Wellness Help Line 1-855-242-3310.

Services are immediately available in English or French but on request in Ojibway, Cree and Inuktitut

If you have experienced or are experiencing sexual violence you can contact the assaulted women’s helpline

If you’re escaping or aiding someone escaping domestic violence: https://sheltersafe.ca/find-help/

Provincial/Territorial Crisis Lines Many provinces and territories have a domestic violence phone line that covers the whole province/te

If you are trans* and experiencing crisis:

Note some of these services are also accessible to the broader 2SLGBTQ+ community

This article is dated 2015 however some services are still relevant: https://www.chatelaine.com/living/project97-living/canadian-assault-centres-and-services/

A comprehensive list of Canadian assault centres and victim services in each province and territory.

Submission

People need more compassion and understanding for Anna. I am a social worker and this stigma that it is the woman’s fault for not leaving traps so many women. She is not dumb. It takes educated, strong women with financial means years to leave abusive or bad relationship. Anna was married off to a predator at a young age, she has young children, no career education, no way to financially support her children, and is in a different state than her family. Why would anyone expect her to leave quickly? Sure she had loved ones offer support, but it can take 100s of offers of support before you accept. You can think you would, but most women in this situation take years to leave because it is such a messed up thing they begin rationalizing it any way they can and through processing what is going on, they often make bad decision. Maybe Anna stayed because she is worried about custody and thinks she can keep her children safe from Josh if he is in her presence. Maybe she thinks at least her children are fed and housed and worries they will be worse off if she left. Maybe she thinks her inability to financially provide for her children means they will be sent to foster homes where they could be abused without her protection. Maybe she thinks taking her children away from their cousins, likely their support system, would hurt them more. Maybe she thinks their happiness is more important than hers and sees staying as her best shot at keeping them happy, for whatever reason. Anna clearly loves her children and sometimes mothers make irrational decisions while trying to protect their babies. We do not even know if Josh, a man who is capable of child sexual abuse, abused Anna as well. Maybe he has threatened her.

The same goes for Jimbob and Michelle. Yes they made mistakes when they first caught Josh molesting children, but they get zero blame from what we know so far. Blaming the parents is part of why it gets covered up so often. You can see the Duggar parents took steps to try to prevent this from happening again, even if they were misguided. I live in Appalachia and we have a problem with families covering up sexual abuse because they do not trust the authorities. This stems from previously taking all of the children away when one person was the abuser. For example if uncle John molested Sally or if step brother Jim molested Timmy, previously the authorities would take ALL of the children in the home away, not Uncle John or step bro Jim. Many families saw this and lost trust, worrying that they would lose their children and not be able to protect them any more. So they resorted to covering it up. Maybe this happened in Arkansas too. It is only now after decades of reeducation that my generation is starting to trust the authorities and report sexual abuse. We should also remember that the internet was not as widely available and didn’t have nearly as much information back then, especially for a conservative family that was hesitant to use various forms of media. People were not educated on sexual abuse when J&M went to school like we were. Given their ages and belief systems, they did quite well in their response to Josh. Definitely not perfect, but I have seen much worse. You cannot forget they are parents and how paralyzing the sheer level of shock is that comes with learning your child, whom you love and rocked as a baby, is capable of doing something as heinous as sexual abuse of a minor.

This was long, so sorry. I understand all of the anger at Josh. Completely justified. We just all need to do better at directing that anger towards Josh and Josh alone and not blaming anyone else. Certainly not perpetuating dangerous victim blaming or stereotypes and name calling that prevent others from seeking help. (Not you or anyone else specifically, I just keep seeing people call out Anna and others for not reacting the way they think they should. Tragedy rarely allows people to think rationally).

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Thanks for providing this perspective. I’m not going to add too much more to this other than to say I think it’s a hard conversation to have in general. It is especially difficult on Tumblr because it’s expected that your opinion needs to boil down to a 1 or 2 sentence statement.

jimboob-is-my-homeboy

I think this is extremely well written from a perspective that I didn’t previously think about. Sums up the whole, very complicated, situation as succinctly as possible IMO.

duggarwonderland

I really appreciate this perspective too.

#josh goes to jail #anna duggar #csa tw

i did not consider a lot of this when i was thinking about this whole situation. wow.

nurthanstan

Charges..... not what I was hoping for....

avaginanotaclowncar

Yup that is worse case scenario.

Fuck I’m so mad

undercoverduggarblog

what a disgusting piece of shit

this is absolutely horrendous. my heart breaks so much for any of the children involved in this.

i hope this man never sees the light of day

19kidsandloving

From Rodrigues fam Facebook

countingonmama

It's wild to me how early in her pregnancy she announced it.

fundiesarefunny

Right!!!!

i am normally very against commenting on people’s looks... but the eyebrows... how does that even happen

Credit to Reddit user StandardQuirky for posting this on Fundie Snark Uncensored, but holy shit. This is big.

idontwant19kids