ROUND 2 — Match 112 of 138
Viren (The Dragon Prince)
Problematic because: "Viren is a dark mage, which means that 9 times out of 10 he has to kill magical creatures to be able to use magic. He is stubborn, ruthless, and cruel. He has slaughtered innocent people in the name of his agenda to further/better the human race. He's manipulative and conniving, and believed that his way was the only right way to do something. He was quick to anger. He sent his own son to kill the children of the previous king because he thought they would be too weak to rule. He always showed favoritism to his daughter and was child to his son up until shortly before his death. He goes against the king's (who was also his friend) wishes and swaps his soul with a bird's. He partners with an evil elf to try and take down the kingdom of Zadia. I'm probably forgetting something tbh. Overall, he kinda reminds me of Macbeth. He wasn't a great dude until after some serious self reflection." Propaganda: "His character arc is really interesting to watch, as he often justifies his actions as being what's best for the kingdom of Katolis. He has a strong atonement arc towards the end of the series, and he's a great antagonist for the series. He has good qualities so he's not just a one off type of antag. He has good depth to him that makes him feel like more than just a bad guy."
vs. Hector Barbossa (Pirates of the Caribbean)
Problematic because: "his first major act in the series is betraying jack, leading a mutiny, stealing the black pearl, and marooning him on the same island he later dumps jack and elizabeth on. then his crew steals the cursed aztec gold, and when bootstrap bill turner objects to what they did and sends one coin away to his son, barbossa has him strapped to a cannon and thrown into the sea. unfortunately for barbossa, they later need turner blood to lift the curse, so he raids port royal, kidnaps elizabeth after she claims the turner name, and tries to use her blood in the ritual. he’s also just a deeply self-serving operator across the series. he helps when it benefits him, betrays when it benefits him, steals the pearl back from jack again after at world’s end, becomes a privateer under king george while secretly pursuing revenge against blackbeard, and later rules a pirate fleet as a wealthy pirate lord. he does get more heroic moments later, especially with carina, but “eventually sacrifices himself for his daughter” doesn’t erase the years of mutiny, kidnapping, murder, betrayal, and general pirate bastard behaviour before that." Propaganda: "barbossa is awful and i love him. mutineer, kidnapper, cursed skeleton captain, professional jack sparrow irritant, apple enthusiast, betrayal enjoyer. somehow both a complete bastard and one of the most satisfying redemption-ish arcs in the franchise."
Who should advance?
Viren
Hector Barbossa
(Disclaimer: All text above was sent in by submitters and not written by OP.)















