You guys don't have to be calm or reasonable because the people who are in control of our society already agree with you.
Yeah I wonder why that is? Modern society agreeing that the potentially of a 8 week old fetus shouldn’t legally trump over a woman’s choice & autonomy , regardless of individual thoughts about morality
That isn’t outrageous. That’s logical.
If “human life activists “ actually want to make a change and reduce abortions, the most logical way to go about it is to focus on the root issues of it and not try to criminalize something that you simply don’t agree with because it goes against your personal morals. You’re not going to achieve the positive end results you seek even if you would’ve managed to fully criminalize it. Women will get simply seek more back alley abortions & put themselves more in danger, you keep denying the reality of what leads so many women to abortion in the first place.
This is why the pro life movement hasn’t been nearly as successful as it “should” be giving how many years of “activism” and seeking to fully criminalize abortion its had. The majority don’t sympathize with pro lifers because you don’t care about women and what they have to say about their own health, bodies, financial struggles ect. Adoption is not a solution to pregnancy. These “choices” pro lifers give out aren’t choices, they are another problem. How are you going to sit here and actively try to criminalize something you claim is killing unborn children to for your solution to be to throw more into an overflowing abusive system? How is that any more moral to you? You’re convincing yourself that anything is better than death when that’s something you’ve decided yourself because you can’t bother actually trying to fix a broken system that makes these children miserable & leads them into lives full of addiction and abuse. Not to mention that historically, abortion bans have not worked like they were intended to. You sound ingenious because if you truly cared about children, you would be focusing your full attention where it actually matters and would make a difference. Shaming women, and harassing them outside abortion clinics and ranting about it online is doing absolutely nothing.
"Modern society agreeing that the potentially of a 8 week old fetus shouldn’t legally trump over a woman’s choice & autonomy , regardless of individual thoughts about morality
That isn’t outrageous. That’s logical."
It's completely outrageous because that's advocating for murdering a baby. Not a potential baby. An existing human baby. When you use the word "potential" in regards to the fetus, that just comes off as scientifically illiterate. There's no debate in science about whether or not the unborn are human beings so when you say stuff like that, you're just showing you don't know the science. And advocating to kill a baby is never logical. And it's messed up that you think it is.
"If “human life activists “ actually want to make a change and reduce abortions, the most logical way to go about it is to focus on the root issues of it and not try to criminalize something that you simply don’t agree with because it goes against your personal morals."
I don't think someone who doesn't even know the basic biology of fetal development is really qualified to be telling human rights activists what the logical thing to do is.
Are you against rape? Because if you really were and wanted to make a change, the most logical way to go about it is to focus on the root of the issue and try not to criminalize something that you simply don't agree with because it goes against your personal morals.
"Women will get simply seek more back alley abortions & put themselves more in danger, you keep denying the reality of what leads so many women to abortion in the first place."
Back alley abortions were performed by medical professionals. They were called back alley abortions because the client seeking the abortion would enter through the back door, which was usually facing an alleyway, instead of the front.
But people continuing to do something is not an argument for making that thing illegal. Especially if that thing is killing someone else.
And I have never once denied the reality of what leads women to get abortions in the first place. It's possible to focus both on banning abortion and focusing on the issues that lead women to get abortions and pro-lifers do both which pro-choicers would know if you guys got out of your echo chamber every once in a while.
"The majority don’t sympathize with pro lifers because you don’t care about women and what they have to say about their own health, bodies, financial struggles ect."
That's just downright false. Pro-lifers do more to help women than pro-choicers do.
"Adoption is not a solution to pregnancy."
Adoption is an alternative to killing a baby you don't want.
"These “choices” pro lifers give out aren’t choices, they are another problem."
This is the problem with pro-choice ideology. The only choice you advocate for is abortion. No other choice is good enough or not a real choice. If it's not abortion then it's just another problem.
How can you value the life of the baby so little that any option that allows the baby to live is not ok and just another problem? It sounds like you want that baby to die.
The reality, whether or not you choose to accept it, is that there are other choices. You just don't like them because they don't end with a dead baby.
"How are you going to sit here and actively try to criminalize something you claim is killing unborn children to for your solution to be to throw more into an overflowing abusive system? How is that any more moral to you?"
Because murder is immoral. Not every baby whose mother chooses life after considering abortion is going to end up in the system. And how can you possibly have the audacity to use children in foster care to advocate for murdering innocent babies? How disgusting that you value children in the foster system so little that you would make the argument they are better off dead. If the overflowing abusive system is the problem for you, why don't we just kill all the kids currently in it? That would make more sense.
But like, how come when you see a problem, your solution is not to fix a broken system, but to kill the children? Why not eliminate the suffering instead of the sufferer?
How is murdering a child to save them from potential abuse moral?
"You’re convincing yourself that anything is better than death when that’s something you’ve decided yourself because you can’t bother actually trying to fix a broken system that makes these children miserable & leads them into lives full of addiction and abuse."
Well guess what? You don't get to decide for someone else whether or not death is better for them. I think life is better than death and you may disagree but who are you to make that decision for another person? The problem here is this person already exists and is alive. Me thinking life is better than death doesn't do anything to this person except not kill them. Yours allows people to end the life of someone if they decide that person's life isn't worth living. That's not a choice you get to make for someone else.
"if you truly cared about children, you would be focusing your full attention where it actually matters and would make a difference."
A person, such as yourself, who defends and advocates for the brutal murder of innocent babies is the least qualified person on planet Earth to tell someone trying to save the lives of the babies you want dead how to "truly" care about children.
The nerve you have to send a long ass message on why you think murdering babies needs to be a thing and then try to lecture me on how to care about children is really something else.
Saving the lives of babies actually matters. Even if you don't care about them.
