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quantumphoenixblue

what's your guys' favorite bizarre bits of destiny lore? im not talking about any of the high concept sci fi stuff but the random tidbits that make you go HUH?

mine is that the traveler was named after the basketball foul.

quantumphoenixblue

other gems:

most of the surviving pre-collapse data is "smut"

antarctica is widely considered a myth

ikora once floated the idea of zavala marrying caiatl "to secure the alliance"

crow-posting

I was unable to find sources for all of the lore mentioned in the tags, but here are the sources I did find if anyone is interested!

the Traveler was named after the basketball foul

most of the surviving pre-Collapse data is "smut"

-> like when Glint was talking to a Cryptarch about Halloween history and he just had a Halloween porno magazine

Antarctica is widely considered a myth

Ikora once floated the idea of Zavala marrying Caiatl "to secure the Alliance"

Petra flunked out of wizard school

Ikora compared Mara to Lucifer and Sauron Fëanor / J. R. R. Tolkien's Lord of the Rings and Silmarillion exist in Destiny universe

Ikora is a "5th sigma Guardian"

Xûr met and gave Skolas a ship before straight up disappearing

Levaszk being allergic to pine nuts

pineapples still exist but are very rare and a lot of people have no clue what they are

Uluran pin-ups existing

Spider owning an iPad

one of the guys who overthrew Calus was named Moli Imoli

Ulurant can have cockney accents

there is a snack brand that uses Zavala in its branding (Zavala Action Snacks)

there's a partially translated Uluran recipe in the Vanguard's archives

Cayde is really bad with computers

sharks being extinct

Osiris apparently sings

Osiris doesn't seem to care for candy all that much, but he'll eat them if Saint gives him some

Drifter had been stashing weapons in that vending machine in the [Annex] hallway

Caiatl Calus and [his] legions playing their own version of fantasy football

karaoke evidently having survived the Collapse

the Cryptarchs believe that sheepdogs are mythical creatures like centaurs; they also believe that lumberjacks are mythical creatures

Thanatonauts have licenses

pre-Awoken Mara Sov seeing her coworker's head obliterated by a frozen rabbit embryo in orbit

Drifter and Rahool were all but canonically a thing

"my man Oryx"

Marasenna calling a milk dispenser a "cow-thing"

the nuggets of the chicken and the beer of the root

Rasputin threw satellites from orbit at Felwinter in attempts to kill him once he was rez'd

people used to have like Cyberpunk-level body mods pre Collapse *(note: Crown Six is a highly modified Exo, not a human)

THE CHRONICON

the Darkness gives you a foot upgrade (Sathona only had 2 toes on each foot before the siblings communed with the Deep, but Savathûn has 3 toes per foot)

there is a Hunter named Ghost

Only female Cabal have tusks. Therefore Ignovun, Chosen of Caiatl, is a femboy.

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lore I couldn't find:

Guardians mapped the Red Legion communications network by dancing

similar lore: D1 "secret missions"

Osiris had an ability to become invisible (or at least less visible)

Riven seems to know you didn't get that 1k voices to drop after the raid

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my contribution:

Spider owns The Starry Night

Shaxx can recite The Tempest

Saladin is bad with chopsticks

"coffee" is only mentioned 20 times while "tea" is mentioned over 1000 times ☕️🍵

quantumphoenixblue

Thanks for gathering all of these! Some more sources:

"Nine tenths of pre-Golden Age data is smut!"

The one about mapping the Red Legion network by dancing might be referring to the War Mantis hunter cloak!

crow-posting

Thank you!! I forgot to link the first one lol. 🫠

The second one makes sense, but a lot of blue D2 items had quirky one-liners, so I don't know if I'd count that as actual lore orr just fun flavor text. 😅

crow-posting

Addendum: I just realized I added an extra "0" to my original post. It's supposed to say "over 100 times," not "over 1000 times."

A n y w a y -

flowers-of-io

Did we forget about that time Crota was like "my daughter is so OP I have to drown her"

Oh and also Crota's death was the butterfly effect of two Knights duking it out over whether Oryx or Xivu Arath is cooler, and when they reached a stalemate, they both decided to jump off a bridge

Shaw Han has a dog named Spark <3

And last but not least, Toland brags about killing his Ghost but he actually didn't

infinitewarden

the osiris stealth (not really invisibility more like he's just really good at being sneaky)

"They hid their shadows and stood still, unblinking, to avoid the Network Minds." (The Sundial)

"They were young, and nearly a century of navigation through the Infinite Forest had honed Osiris's ability to remain unseen." (Immolant pt. 2)

#lore.exe

altrnvte

Bring them nightfall

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i gotta say, giving a character the trait of "fucking loves mythological literature" is baller and giving it to osiris is fucking awesome

infinitewarden

Just want to address something really quick: I've been seeing a weird increase in people who think Guardians age.

This is. Factually not the case and is indeed a very important plot point of Zavala's past.

Some other notable lore entries that talk imply it or outright state it:

A small band of humans emerge from the woods at Osiris's flank. Some carry rust-laden firearms. The one who leads them jaunts forward. "Stand up, old man." The words are slung over his shoulder, wet and heavy. "No." (5: Moths to Flame Part II)

Saladin Circa Dark Ages vs. Saladin at Present

Osiris (and Ikora!) Early City Era (~200 years ago) Vs. Osiris at Present

And, if you haven't set aside time to rewatch Zavala's story then there's this: He has remained the same through hundreds of generations.

It's not "headcanon" if you think otherwise it is directly in opposition to why guardians are the way they are and how they function. Genuinely I have no idea where this idea of Guardians aging came from but it completely defeats the purpose of many tragedies and driving forces Guardians face because of their unaging immortality.

introfi4nt

Gotta add in this, from the “Color of Speed” Sparrow lore tab:

It was late that evening. She had been walking back from the Tower, nearly home, when she heard a smooth voice quietly assert, "Eva. It's been too long. You look as bright as ever." Osiris melted out of the shadows near her doorway.

The ex-outfitter snorted. "That's faint praise coming from someone who's been fifty for several centuries."

"My age shows in other ways. May I come in?"

infinitewarden

Ah, yes, I didn't include this one since this was Savathun disguised at Osiris. It's still accurate, but I try to stick to stuff from the real Osiris in these regards :)

#i am NOT giving that artist a pass #they're the reason i had to make this damn post in the first place 💀💀💀💀💀#my taste aside people genuinely believed it was canon bc of them

:/

#missing the point. no i am NOT giving that artist a pass i specifically had to make that post because of them #i hate that art's osiris so much it's unreal #that is NOT osiris #not his mannerisms. not his personality. not his build. not his face.#god.#tbd.#osiris would Not have been some demure waifish softy who needs to be hooked to felwinter's side #i am blowing you up with my mind

infinitewarden

The Sundial's Core

So way back in April last year I made this post. The TL;DR of it is that I was theorizing what the heart of the Sundial was made out of and promptly settled on "darkness" and "taken energy". Now that we're further into the story and the Darkness itself I think I've finally pinpointed Exactly what it was and why this is a bad omen:

Let's begin.

infinitewarden

I would like to add, now that we've progressed past Lightfall and The Final Shape. Now that we know Darkness and Memory are bound, wouldn't it make much more sense for the heart of the Sundial to be a Darkness artifact? If memory is darkness, and time is memory, the best way to traverse time would be to access that memory.

The likelihood of it being a part of Nezarec is much higher now that we know nightmares (memories) were tied to his psychic abilities. The core being made of an Ahamkara, especially given Riven's teasing of Osiris in Wish, makes no sense. It has never made sense once you really deconstructed it in the first place.

thefirstknife

Also to add, I think a lot of people saw a theory or two and accepted it as canon. The truth is that we don't know. This was never directly explained. There is no canon statement that tells us either way. And it doesn't have to be explained, though it would be cool to know.

Pretty much most people latched onto the Ahamkara theory for reasons that are unknown to me. I suppose because Osiris once said he made a "bargain" but with the amount of other details about the core, this one word doesn't hold much water for Ahamkara being involved. I was never particularly impressed with the theory that it's Ahamkara. It made much more sense to me that it's a Darkness artifact since pretty much the get go (woman who only thinks about the Darkness: "Getting a lot of Darkness vibes from this" notwithstanding).

And Season of the Wish disproves it entirely. I don't know how people view these voice lines otherwise, but for clarity:

Riven: Isn't it unfortunate your City hunted down all of my kind, Osiris? You might have wished for Saint-14's return from the Forest.

Osiris: And have him trade the Vex's torment for yours?

Riven: Perhaps you simply didn't want him back badly enough to pay the price.

Osiris: Save the bait for someone naïve enough to take it.

If there was wishing involved, Riven would know and she wouldn't have said this. Maybe she thought that he didn't have to make the Sundial at all to wish for him back, but if he ended up making the Sundial with an Ahamkara bone, then wishing was still involved and it evidently was not. On the account that it didn't work, primarily.

Osiris' reply heavily implies that this wasn't even on his radar because of the cost. Osiris would know about the inherent issue of Ahamkara magic and clearly did not want to put Saint through this. If he's getting him back, it has to be... clean so to speak. As clean as possible that is, at least for Saint.

A wish would be simple and it would've worked right away, but it's also deceptive. Osiris clearly knows about this. When the Sundial failed, he could've done it then, but he didn't. Because he's aware that there would be a huge cost, likely affecting Saint. The Sundial was a massive piece of engineering work based on Sagira's design and made with the help of Drifter: literally why bother if you have an Ahamkara bone?

But at the end of the day, we don't know. It's not really super important either, though obviously I'd like to know. Any explanation can be made to work. We just have to be aware that as of now there is no canon explanation. This is mostly for people who seem to jump to a conclusion that something doesn't make sense because it doesn't align with a popular theory. It doesn't have to! Because it's a theory and theories can be wrong, including the one I ascribe to.

infinitewarden

The Sundial's Core

So way back in April last year I made this post. The TL;DR of it is that I was theorizing what the heart of the Sundial was made out of and promptly settled on "darkness" and "taken energy". Now that we're further into the story and the Darkness itself I think I've finally pinpointed Exactly what it was and why this is a bad omen:

Let's begin.

infinitewarden

I would like to add, now that we've progressed past Lightfall and The Final Shape. Now that we know Darkness and Memory are bound, wouldn't it make much more sense for the heart of the Sundial to be a Darkness artifact? If memory is darkness, and time is memory, the best way to traverse time would be to access that memory.

The likelihood of it being a part of Nezarec is much higher now that we know nightmares (memories) were tied to his psychic abilities. The core being made of an Ahamkara, especially given Riven's teasing of Osiris in Wish, makes no sense. It has never made sense once you really deconstructed it in the first place.

#since this seems relevant again recently #lore.exe

it tickles me when i see people call osiris ikora's grandpa. that woman is too old and that man is too young for that to be the case

#ikora's At Least in her 30s and osiris is said to be in his 50s he is Not that old guys 😭#osiris is younger than MY dad and i'm in my 20s #percy.exe #to be clear don't get me wrong i do write them as having a father/daughter-esque relationship #and it is mostly because i write him with a friend who writes ikora and that's what we've come to #but GRANDPA is too much