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In theory, maybe I get the “we’re all just playing with barbies, they’re fictional characters, no interpretation is incorrect because it’s an interpretation” argument. But actually no, not all takes are equally valid. Framing something as an interpretation doesn’t mean it inherently has merit. Some takes are completely incorrect and betray a fundamental misunderstanding of the source material. They just aren’t a reason to harass people or send death threats
Carlton/epilogue boyfriend/cute college guy is nothing but canonical proof that Will's future contains a happy, fulfilling love life that doesn’t include pining for Mike. that's literally all he is. if that alone leads you to passionately hate him, that tells me a lot about how you really feel about Will and your wishes for his future
fandom approaches male characters from a watsonian perspective and female characters from a doylist perspective
by virtue of being made up constructs everything about fictional characters only exists as far as what is told about them, and yet underdeveloped male characters are assumed to have rich inner lives that the writer have simply not tapped into - when they actually did not give them any - and it's therefore up to fans to rescue the character from the writer's assumed negligence and explore him themselves through headcanon-ing the shit outta them picking up small bits of characterization and expanding from it, whereas female characters are taken at extreme face value: if the writer did not give them an inner life then she doesn't have one period, even within the universe of the story where everyone is a living breathing person, and it's not worth exploring. even when the small bits of context and characterization about her insinuate something interesting about inner world and leave room to spin an interesting backstory and motivations there seems to be no interest in fandom to do so.
you need to understand that i have two sets of headcanons. there's the set of realistic headcanons based on my genuine reading of the show, and then there's me playing pretend with my dolls.
you ever get so into the whole "it would have been good if it was good" thing that it gets kind of embarrassing. it would have been good if it was good but it's Not and in fact it's maybe worse than anything else but unfortunately. it still could have been good. if it was go
[looking at people younger than me] you have your whole life ahead of you [looking at people older than me] you have your whole life ahead of you [looking at myself] its over
Shane & Ilya hanging out with Skip for unspecified reasons and the first time Kip teasingly says “girl!” to him about something, Shane just makes this face
“When I was young, women were raped on the campus of a great university and the authorities responded by telling all the women students not to go out alone after dark or not to be out at all. Get in the house. (For women, confinement is always waiting to envelope you.) Some pranksters put up a poster announcing another remedy, that all men be excluded from campus after dark. It was an equally logical solution, but men were shocked at being asked to disappear, to lose their freedom to move and participate, all because of the violence of one man.”
— Rebecca Solnit, Grandmother Spider in Men Explain Things To Me and Other Essays
…Wow…it’s sad how much this blew my mind. Brilliant.
You seem pretty conservative for a show about outcast
Some upcoming lgbt movies to look forward to
RIPE! (produced by sapphic football star Kelley O’Hara) - Starring Lola Tung (from The Summer I Turned Pretty) as our mc. This movie is based on a short film with the same name from 2024, where an American exchange student builds a (friendly) football rivalry with a Spanish girl, which slowly turns into a summer love. There has been a small teaser shared (and it look so good). According to O'Hara: “I was drawn to the opportunity to be able to tell a story with a happy ending because I think the typical queer love story features a lot of pain and heartbreak.”
Leviticus - “Two teenage boys must escape a violent entity that takes the form of the person they desire most: each other.” Supernatural horror, romance, etc. There has been a trailer shared. Coming out the 18th of June
Girls Like Girls (produced by Hayley Kiyoko, and based in her music video and book of the same name) - “LOVE BEGINS WHEN YOU LET IT IN. Coley, 17, from rural Oregon, navigates intimacy after her mother's passing. Meeting Sonya sparks new feelings, but self-doubt hinders their connection. Sonya, unfamiliar with dating girls, is uncertain. They learn to embrace emotions.”. Coming of age romance. There’s also a trailer (and it comes out the same day as Leviticus!)
Coward - “During the First World War, the soldiers behind the front line try to keep their spirits up. Stirred by the rhetoric of war, they each search for their own way to cope.” I’m really excited for this one because not only is it about wwi soldiers but apparently it’s gay too?? (Yes, I love wwi, sorry)
What's Wrong Wendy? - “When a pizza delivery girl is attacked by a bat on Valentine's Day, she drags her high school crush into battle. A sapphic tribute to the monstrous, feral women who struggle to hold onto their humanity.”
The Man I Love - “Set in late 1980s New York City, the film follows Jimmy George, an actor facing a life-threatening illness, who takes on what may be his final major role.” The illness is AIDS. Coming out on May 20.
Carmilla - “LESBIANS! DRAMA! VAMPIRES! LUST! Sheridan Le Fanu's classic story, Carmilla, is contrasted with Veronica and Amélia's, two rising actresses. Their relationship, which floats between hate, desire and passion, gets more intense when both get chosen to play opposites in the theatrical adaptation of Fanu's tale.” I don’t know if this is already out?? It’s a 2026 movie but I don’t know if it’s out. It’s a Portuguese movie.
Red, White & Royal Wedding (directed by Jamie Babbit, director of But I’m a Cheerleader) - Sequel to Red, White & Royal Blue (2023), an adaptation of the novel with the same name. Romcom with an established relationship (between the first son of the United States and the prince of England).
Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma (produced by Jane Schoenbrun, producer of I Saw The TV Glow) - “A NEW KIND OF HORROR REMAKE. The infamous Camp Miasma slasher franchise is getting rebooted yet again. But when the latest movie's director becomes obsessed with the mysterious, reclusive actress who played the "final girl" in the original film, a whole new kind of slasher emerges from the bottom of the lake.” There’s a trailer out, comes out the 7th of august.
The Black Ball - “The Black Ball, inspired by an unfinished play by Federico García Lorca, will be a queer vindication about three men in three different moments of Spanish history: 1932, 1937, and 2017.” If you have never read anything by Lorca, what are you doing?
Go, Beavers! (directed by Ethan Coen, director of Honey Don’t and Drive-Away Dolls) - At the reunion of a lesbian college women’s rowing team, members of the crew begin mysteriously dying.
Separate Rooms (directed by Luca Guadagnino, director of Call Me By Your Name, Challengers, Bones and All, Queer, etc) - “Fleeing from the image of his boyfriend who recently committed suicide, Leo arrives in England in order to descend into anonymity. Yet even here his mind continually turns to the reality of his lover’s death and their experiences together.” Adaptation of a 1989 Italian novel by Pier Vittorio Tondelli, of the same name (Camere separate). Coming out in 2027.
Rapture - “Monks at remote Lansley Abbey face crisis when plague victims become undead. As refugees seek shelter and infected attack, the brothers clash over helping the sick versus protecting ancient knowledge.”
My Ex-Friend’s Wedding - “On the eve of their former best friend’s wedding, four of their childhood friends receive a drunken voicemail from her, confessing that she believes she is making a mistake. The four friends then decide to stop the wedding.” Comes out 2027. Talking about weddings, we also have
Before I Do - “A lakeside bachelor party weekend devolves into chaos when the groom and his best man’s past romantic feelings reignite, entangling the wedding party in the chaotic pre-wedding drama.” Gay romcom!
There’s also a movie adaptation of The Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo (with Netflix) and Atmosphere by Taylor Jenkins Reid planned, and a tv show adaptation of the lesbian romcom Cleat Cute (as an Amazon series) and the video game Life Is Strange.
ALSO two tv shows: The Body, “a thriller set in a small town revolving around dark secrets among a group of girls at a Catholic high school”, and Slo Pitch, “a determined coach leads their ragtag LGBTQ+ softball team through ups and downs on and off the field as they chase their dreams in local slo pitch leagues.”
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Extra Geography - “In an English girls boarding school, two teenage best friends grapple with the challenges of girlhood - friendship, boys, studies, and growing up - and embark on their school project, falling in love.” Apparently this came out in January but I haven’t heard anything about it? One review describes it as “The Holdovers for lesbians”
Big Girls Don’t Cry - “Over one transformative summer in rural New Zealand in 2006, 14-year-old Sid discovers desire, identity, and the internet as she imitates the people she longs to be loved by.” Also came out in January.
Gugu’s World - “Gugu, a shy teenager living with his mother in a fishing village, forms an intense friendship with a new boy who arrives from the city. As the two grow closer, Gugu begins to confront his sexuality, the expectations of his community, and the emotional turbulence of adolescence.” Brazilian coming of age film with a black mc. Apparently it talks a lot about his relationship with his grandma? It came out the 13th of February.
The Blood Countess - “The story follows Countess Erzsébet Báthory, who reappears in present‑day Vienna and searches for a mysterious book believed to have the power to eradicate evil. Accompanied by her maid Hermine and her melancholic nephew Rudi Bubi, she moves through historical sites in the city while vampirologists and a police inspector pursue her across Vienna and into Bohemia.” Vampire comedy, came out in the 16th of February.
Black Burns Fast - “Black Burns Fast is a queer and quirky coming of age film set in at a prestigious boarding school in South Africa. 17-year-old adorkable Luthando is on track for a normal academic year, until Ayanda arrives at the school and forces her to rethink everything. In the aftermath, Luthando struggles with juggling multiple identities to avoid rejection from her mother and her schoolmates as she comes to terms with her sexuality.” Came out in March.
I'll always be sad we didn't get a proper scene with the Byers in the later seasons. Just seeing them connect whenever we kicked off seasons 1 and 2, despite whatever distance and differences they had at the time...
...and that slowly becoming tense when Jonathan isn't there in a very specific way. We spend both those seasons with Joyce and Will, and he's always on the outside looking in. Seeing Joyce choose her other son, seeing Will choose his other friends...
...trying to figure out how to still be there for them but always a little too late. Because they're now relying on someone they were complaining about in the first place.
And there's a clear through line there where Jonathan is someone they can be angry at even though they're really angry at someone else. Joyce needs Jonathan to make breakfast and get Will ready to school because Lonnie isn't there. Will is taking his feelings out on Jonathan because Joyce is being overbearing and anxious.
But Jonathan's still not the person they seek out. And you can see that play out with Nancy too, wanting to be seen but not always knowing how to step into frame.
It's kind of the same with the way Will opens up and finds his place again with his friends right? I wish we'd seen that play out with Jonathan and the Byers too.
There are 2 types of fanfic:
fanfic that I like
fanfic that is none of my business
real talk: this fandom is not always as progressive as it purports itself to be. merely being gay or liking a gay ship doesn’t automatically make a person enlightened. we all live in a homophobic society and unless we make an effort to unlearn the norms it instills in us, we are in danger of perpetuating them.
the dismissive and often disdainful reaction to the absence of masculinity in will is but one example. will and will ONLY is ridiculed by the general audience for offenses a lot of us gay guys were picked on for, like swaying his hips, having a fagcent, being weepy, being noticeably more sensitive and demure than his straight friends in body language and personality. even the show, despite glaring missteps in the representation, celebrates him for who he is and notes that he should never have to change to belong in this world.
rather than following suit and celebrating who he is, people in the fandom seek to make him assimilate as an overcorrection for his visible queerness. can’t be TOO different! can’t be one of those stereotypical gays! that’s offensive! here’s my question— why EXACTLY are you offended? if you can’t pinpoint it, think it over a little longer before you speak. valuing reasoned opinion over reactionary ones is how you build a better place
being a flaming queer isn’t stereotypical. what’s stereotypical is how it’s handled. whether the gayness is respected and given life, or whether it’s used as spectacle, laughingstock, or bare minimum brownie points. example: will drag headcanons! will fans like it because it fits with wills clear enthusiasm for theatricality in a safe space, his love for color and costumes and art and campiness, his clear drive to be initiated into community activity, his creative spirit, his strong enjoyment of gender nonconforming artists like david bowie. if a straight homophobe said will would do drag solely because he’s gay THAT would be stereotypical, especially because they’d likely be saying it with intent to insult. does their mistaken belief make drag bad? no.
it breaks my heart to see us conceding to the standards of living that straight people have set. if you have a certain vision for will, or by extension for yourself, you should pursue it because it feels authentic. none of us should hunger for straight approval.
overtly unabashedly queer things (aka: anything beyond a subtle button on a jean jacket) are NOT embarrassing or overly excessive either. a lot of people DID build their lives around being queer and still do. to a lot of us, it’s not a tack-on adjective, but a personal identity, a social status, a way of seeing the world. in those days people created gay choirs, baseball leagues, bands, book clubs, hell probably DND groups too. they went to clubs and bars because it was a guarantee of finding likeminded people. it didn’t matter how unrelated their interests were to sexuality, the issue pervaded everything because they weren’t accepted anywhere else. and even if they were accepted, it was on the basis of conditional tolerance, which honestly feels degrading to accept when you can have actual belonging with your own community
so. before declaring any shade of effeminacy or digression from the norm as weak or insulting or pathetic, do a little reflecting. effeminate gay men are the strongest people i have ever met. they bravely walk outside the norm every single day with their mannerisms, personality, and physical expression, despite disrespect both inside and outside the community.
i recommend the trouble with normal by michael warner if you want to learn more about the perils of assimilation. it’s gay PRIDE. be PROUD!
many such cases
good acting in late stage ST monologues:
David, letter + black hole (this gives me no joy to admit but dude’s background is in Shakespeare he knows how to chew on a lil soliloquy)
Sadie, Dear Billy letter, Creel House attic, even 506 talking to Holly even if the 8,000th RUTH loop was a little trying
Jamie, somehow smoothed the hell out of his 507 villain monologue despite it being the most transparent info dump in the world
Maya, 504 “I felt so free”
Charlie and Natalia, yes I’m counting their 506 two hander it feels spiritually linked to this impulse :)
Noah, the coming out scene (if you disagree go talk to someone else about it!!! ty!!!!)
bad acting in late stage ST monologues:
a certain Piggyback moment that has probably received more fandom close watching and attention than all of the above combined
and yet only one of those had achieved meme status and resulted in the alignment of this progressive fandom with alt right demons it’s so weird………
careful Mike
