littlecourse

bodily adult plural (early 20s) she/her + it/its discourse containment [read: shit that's been getting on our nerves for ages] if we fuck up, call us out icon is a drawing of mod cinnamon with the sexual little flag behind her

[littlecourse]

Side note: If you interact with me while having “endos dni” in your blog, you are breaking your own dni

Also I only do advanced syscourse on this blog. “Are endos real?” and similar topics have already been beat to death, and I have no meaningful contribution to make to those discussions.

I am much more interested in discussions about internal identities not lining up with the body’s and the potential problems that arise from it, as well as other niche topics relating to LGBT+ and kink discourse.

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(tags from teaboot)

# transfems afab and transmascs amab are fine

# lesboys and girltwinks are fine

[littlecourse]

I remember once in a discord server I mentioned that I don’t treat the little in my system as a child and she does weed in the same way as the rest of us do and I got told it was “basically child abuse”

ok so. the main reasons that bodykids shouldnt have drugs is because its a lot easier to overdose when you weigh two apples, and the bad side effects of drugs hit harder when your brain’s changing all rapid like it does when youre a kid.

these dont apply to littles in adult bodies, so that server was just projecting their own bullshit and/or not Thinking about the reasons behind stuff sucks for people

[activewildcard-deactivated20260]

since it's a hot topic in syscourse id like to present this study/paper made in 2004;

Therapeutic Hazards of Treating Child Alters as Real Children in Dissociative Identity Disorder by Shielagh R. Shusta-Hochberg

[foullittleberry]

I think Little headmates (alters/headmates/parts/etc who identify as being children) should be asked whether they want to be treated like "real" children or not.

Whether the body is an adult or not has nothing to do with it. Whether you think them being alive for decades should make them "less of a child" isn't important.

They are the Child in question. It's their decision to make, and it's up to their system/collective/etc to help them make that decision, not force them into one or the other. It's sure as hell not some random outsider's decision to make.

[pluraltits]

littlespace evils..

 why do people act like littles can do no wrong. like why do people think it’s fine to be mean when they’re either a little or in littlespace.

irl i’ve had people be so mean, disrespectful, and boundary-crossing when they regressed since “you know how kids are.. i was in littlespace, it’s fine!”

i am fighting you (when you’re big so you have the advantage that you will need). kids aren’t jerks like that. they’re blunt and make observations that are meant to be neutral. yeah kids CAN be mean, that’s a thing (i got bullied as a kid by kids).

but regressing or being a little isn’t an excuse to be mean, i’m going to put you in the timeout corner for smacking me.

you can literally set boundaries with kids, it’s not “too complex”. you might have to use simpler language or explain some things but children are nicer and smarter than people give them credit for. i do not CARE that you’re regressed, i am not letting you tug at me because it HURTS.

im literally a little too but i am NICE and POLITE!!!!!!! when i regress i do my best to be KIND and GOOD!

[greens-spilled-tea]

late to the littlecourse but just like. trying to tell me to treat my littles as actual children is actively anti-recovery for me. a huge part of my healing has been re-integrating the parts of me who are stuck in time or who still see themselves as kids, and helping them become more comfortable with our current day life. the vulnerable child parts who were stuck in our past traumas thus slowly become a part of my adult life. the parts of me who didn't grow up because they're scared or because they never got a chance to be a kid start to accept that despite everything, we have grown up. and to tell me to keep these parts of me away from the various kinds of intimacy in my life including sexual intimacy simply because they are "child parts" is frankly harmful for me.

[the-rants-of-the-lily]

"Endos are taking resources away from trauma survivors!"

You assume endogenic systems cannot be trauma survivors which is not only false but also disgusting behavior.

[littlecourse]

i think i confuse people in plural communities because im very pure in ways that a lot of littles arent. theyre used to littles who are pure like angels, who are really pretty but kinda lack free will in a way and lack a lot of breeding or self-protective instincts (at least thats what i get from how they treat me. im not really allowed in a lot of “little friendly” spaces because im too abrasive and unfiltered to be around sensitive people)

but im pure id, im just a ball of desire and feral animal instincts and im completely unashamed by it! why should i be ashamed for loving to fuck and love and rage and eat just because other people want to feel bad about being animals or want to push their own trauma onto me?

but it is really funny being closer to body children than a lot of littles and having those shared traits being treated as “impure” or something that has to inherently be tied to trauma instead of the natural consequence of someone who’s been through puberty and has both adult knowledge and toddler imperiousness/emotionality. like hey at least you dont have to tell me to stop touching my junk when company’s over like you do with body toddlers BP

littles arent allowed to be real children in general and its really funny to me because people talk a lot about how kids like me are being mistreated when we’re being treated like real kids who have the anatomy (brain + bodywise) to safely (or with less risk) do stuff that smaller kids cant

real kids are supposed to be allowed to grow and learn with someone watching their back, not be tucked away forever by some helicopter parent. im allowed to make mistakes with consequences because im an adult and also a toddler. its my life as someone in an adult body and im allowed to learn how to navigate an adult life and that includes the stuff you guys get squeamish about!

i get to grow up without being smothered by creepy strangers telling me they want to keep me safe when they dont even know me or my needs and thats pretty awesome. i wish more littles got to be loved for who they actually are like i do

[theatricgratuitousness]

doting on a sexual little and treating em like the cutest, most pure little baby in the world that everyone loves is one of the best things in the world because people love treating em and their sexuality as gross and fucked up so knowing theyre a sexual being and still treating em like theyre important and loved the way youd love any other little makes their eyes light up like fireworks i fucking swear

[boccher]

and fighting for actual effective youth liberation means insisting on using precise language. you do not concede on using "pedophile" as shorthand for "child sex abuser" or worse, "genetically predisposed criminal". if you do that you are permitting one of society's rhetorical weapons against marginalised peoples (as per the last post). and you are permitting child sex abusers who do not fit the charged preconceived label of "pedophile". you refer to child sex abuse as child sex abuse, so that you can waive baseless accusations by asking who specifically was abused. and so that the intrinsic link between child sex abuse and more general child abuse is obvious.

if you don't understand that child sex abuse is more connected to child abuse than it is to pedophilia, then you don't understand the magnitude of either child abuse or child sex abuse. you won't see how utterly, completely normalised child abuse is, how it serves as an integral function of the patriarchy and the family, rather than a deviation from or an external corruption of it.

[learn-how-to-love]

Hey so this is like extremely intersexist. Like mask-off intersexism if you think perisex/intersex is in any way comparable to tme/tma. Anyone reblogging this is not an ally of intersex people and needs to change their heart or shut up forever.

[ugly-anarchist]

The problem with this mentality is that these are two extremely different situations.

Perisex means "not intersex" while tme/tma rely entirely on declaring who experiences what form of oppression

Perisex doesn't mean "intersexism exempt" as many perisex trans people DO experience intersexism

Saying that everyone who isn't transfem doesn't experience transmisogyny and is exempt from it and using that as the determining factor for not being in your "in" group is exactly the issue with these terms.

There's nothing wrong with a word that means "not transfem" but the issue is that the way tme/tma work is that "transmisogyny affected" fundamentally does not apply to only transfem but people are claiming it should.

Tme/tma are based entirely on denying the experiences of others and forcing people into a dichotomy that doesn't function.

There is no other "not in x queer group" label that defines itself based on this other group being exempt from oppression. Alloromantic doesn't mean arophobia exempt. Cis doesn't mean transphobia exempt. Monosexual doesn't mean bi/panphobia exempt. Straight doesn't mean homophobia exempt. If you can acknowledge and see how strange and counterproductive it would be to define these things in that way then you can see how counterproductive tme/tma as labels are.

[storyweavingspider]

You, yes you specifically reading this, are a pedophile.

This news probably came as a surprise to you. After all, you haven’t done anything pedophilic that you know of. Yet here you are, accused of being a pedophile.

It doesn’t matter whether you’ve been diagnosed with POCD or not, whether you’ve sought out material or not, even if you’ve been vocally opposed to pedophilia in the past. What matters right now is that YOU are a pedophile. Someone said it was true, and that’s what matters to most people.

Don’t worry, it happens to a lot of us, especially if you’re queer and ESPECIALLY if you’re transfemme. Hell, it’s happened to me before:

For some people, they become more vocally opposed to pedophiles to prove they aren’t a pedophile. Others develop radical compassion.

This is gonna sound like an unhinged comparison at first, but hear me out.

This whole “discourse” around ISFF has had me thinking over and over again about how Paul Robeson was blacklisted from being a prominent face of the civil rights campaign despite being possibly the most globally well known Black person from the US, bc he was a communist in a time it wasn’t just unacceptable socially but legally dangerous and would’ve brought even heavier crackdowns on the civil rights movement.

The result was an incomplete liberation because it was only uplifting the “acceptable ones” within a capitalist framework rather than uplifting the baseline total rights regardless of belief/existence.

The point there being is that so long as there are categories of human we view as unacceptable we cannot achieve total liberation. All trannies and faggots are pedophiles, addicts, bums, rapists, whores, etc. to those who see it convenient to get rid of us, and refusing to address this issue will only result in an incomplete liberation because we cannot leave behind those who are seen the worst by society when we ARE them too by default.

“But communist and pedophile is an unhinged comparison” they’ve been calling communists that, perverts, sexual deviants, etc. since McCarthyism anyway so.

We cannot be truly liberated until even those viewed as “the worst of society” have the same basic rights and ability to survive in society as everyone else. As humans, they deserve that much. If you cannot accept that, consider that all any of the rest of us need to become one of them is to be accused of it. Proof doesn’t matter. Reality doesn’t matter. You are a pedophile. You will become a pedophile as soon as it is useful for someone to make you into one.

There is no option but acknowledging they are still human and cannot be simply removed from society, because as long as there are stigmatized demographics, we will be able to remove the basic rights of anyone.

I don’t have a “solution” and I will not answer requests for one, because I’m not here to offer one, I’m saying that humans remain human and we cannot achieve true liberation as long as we are willing to allow demographics of “acceptable ones to harm”. We have to start here. Everything has to start from here.

[littlecourse]

I can’t believe I need to say this but DO NOT suicide bait people over syscourse. Those are real life people who have a high rate of severe trauma and mental illness and you will end up killing and, at best, alienating people you could have persuaded onto your side.

[better-treatment-for-everyone]

I'm tired of people using the names of paraphilias to refer to crimes. yes, I'm aware that this is common practice, but the consequence is that a bunch of people genuinely believe that you support crimes when you say you support paraphiles. it's a constant exposure to 'harmful paraphilias are bad because the things you're attracted to can't consent', and it's because they believe that paraphilias are so entwined with offending that they don't feel the need to make the distinction. even the very concept of 'harmful paraphilias' arises from this lack of distinction.

it's overall a very harmful and rancid viewpoint, and I can only wish for a day where it's abandoned.

[vulturevanity]

hate what people did to the dead dove tag

[vulturevanity]

mothers and fuckers of the jury. "Dead dove: do not eat" is a label on a bag in the fridge. It means "the content of this bag is exactly what is labeled". It does not mean "trigger warning uhhh something". In fact, it means the exact opposite of "trigger warning uhhh something", because you use it with other tags. You write a fucked up fic with extreme violence and gore, you tag it as "extreme violence", "gore" and you tag it with "dead dove: do not eat". You write a fic with emotional abuse, gaslighting and manipulation, you tag it with "emotional abuse", "gaslighting" and "dead dove: do not eat". You write a fic with your extremely niche kink that appeals to like 3 other people and may skeeve out the rest of the fandom, you tag that with your kink and "dead dove: do not eat". It's so people know you really mean the content warnings.

It's NOT a catch-all term for "uhhh this may be fucked idk". TAG YOUR SHIT GENEROUSLY.

[lady-of-vitreous-sight]

at the end of the day, i think you have to understand that an important part of the transmisogynistic caricature is that the depiction is explicitly not a woman. it may be a trans woman, but only if trans women are not women (thus, many apparent "allies" may still create such depictions).

frankly, as useful as 'caricature' is as a descriptor, I'm not sure it's precisely accurate. as i see it, the transmisogynist desires for the epistemic erasure of trans women, but simultaneously will recognize the existence of the degendered transfeminized object. the goal is to separate us, to draw a line and put us outside of it, to deny us the ability to speak and the ability to understand and analyze our plight.

"trans women are actually very, very rare. most of the time in the real world, you'll see femboys, crossdressers, fetishists, pretending predators, and so on." this is the goal, the erasure of our ability to engage in any social reproduction, by making it clear that no one is actually a trans woman. and, over time, all "existing" trans woman will be forcefully "revealed" to be in those categories as well, until none of us are actually trans women.

thus, we are totally objectified, and unable to discuss or understand our plight or even speak to defend ourselves at all, and may be freely extracted from for sexual gratification, abused and mistreated socially, or just pointed to and showed off as evidence for why the patriarchy must exist and why you must support it.

as i understand it, this is the role of the transmisogynistic caricature, to establish a basis for and normalize such non-transfeminized labels. because, who's really a transfem, anyway?

[razortouched]

Not hating here, but just kind of confused — I saw your post about trans men not having male privilege, but that doesn’t always feel like a binary on/off to me, and I wanted to get your take on that. As a trans man who is read as cis male by most people and has been for like a decade, I’ve felt like I absolutely experience male privilege compared to women I know, both cis and trans. I wholeheartedly agree with you on a systemic level (medical discrimination, etc), but on an individual day to day discrimination level things feel a lot different.

For example, I wear a mask out in public, and I’ve noticed that I’ve never dealt with harassment about it, while my friends who are/are read as women do on a regular basis in ways that can feel really frightening. I also work a job in healthcare, and I’ve noticed that my female coworkers in my same job position get criticized in ways that I don’t or are assumed to be incompetent in some way. I could go on, but the TL;DR is that I really do feel I have a level of male privilege compared to women (and people perceived that way) that can’t really be like, hand waved away, because these are things that can impact someone’s safety and stability.

Again, I know that personal experience isn’t everything and not every trans man is going to be read as cis male by any stretch of the imagination, but like… how does that fit into the framework? Just trying to make sense of things. Thanks!

I think there absolutely needs to be a succinct way to delineate between systemic privilege and interpersonal, day-to-day privilege. Perhaps just "as a trans man, I experience interpersonal male privilege due to being percieved as male."

Its kind of difficult, because bad actors use this as a way to both generalize trans men in general, and conflate interpersonal privilege with systemic privilege. However, that should not stop you from speaking to your own personal experience, and its very thoughtful of you to reflect on how you benefit from the biases of other people.

This goes the other way as well - there are trans women I know personally who discuss how they benefited from interpersonal male privilege before coming out - but that doesnt mean that they and other transfems are benefited from it systemically.

Its a nuanced subject, and ideally I would like to see people discussing more the differences between day-to-day benefit / discrimination vs. Systemic privilege / oppression.