Lowgarden

An ASOIAF / GOT blog, complete with (tagged) spoilers for both books and show.

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Hi! Glad to have you back! (yeah i suppose you'll be hearing that for the next eight months at least) I was wonderig whether you happen to have your book/show character comparisons drafts to repost them? Because I haven't saved any, which I regret sorely :/ Also, your new inboxes are a lot of fun)

Thank you so much! Sadly, I don't have any of them archived :( But I'll try and write up some more whenever I have time. Things this past month have been kind of a nightmare, honestly, so I've barely had time to even think. Uni has gotten off to a really, really rough start for me. But I don't want this blog to die completely, even though I'm basically gone. So remember me! I'll try and be back. 

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Text Posts ft. GOT

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Oberyn's Inbox

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So that scene in the finale between Cersei and Tywin showcased some great acting, even though all of Cersei's lines were literally the exact opposite of her character in the book but okay whatever let's just change her motivations and her entire personality and pretty much everything about her. 

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I'm so glad you're back.

Thank you :D Even though I’m barely back because I post so infrequently, which I’m really sorry about! My next post will be a new inbox.

I also have a lot of thoughts about the finale…  

… so I’ll be posting something about that, too. 

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Will you make another ASOIAF inbox? They are so hilarious!

Yes!!! I started a new job recently so I’ve been slammed schedule-wise. But now I’m on vacation, so I’ll have lots of free time! 

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eclectictsunami replied to your post:Lowgarden, i don't know if you've seen the episode yet but I was wondering what you thought about Oberyn's death...

it also fits with “bad things happen to people who give a shit about justice” SIGH

Yup. Whenever a character with a strong moral compass searching for justice shows up, you can expect them to die horribly / ironically / tragically pretty soon. 

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Lowgarden, i don't know if you've seen the episode yet but I was wondering what you thought about Oberyn's death. I've seen a lot of people state that it was dumb that oberyn lost because he was too prideful or cocky. and I'm not really sure if I agree with that? I think it was more his inability to let go of this 'perfect' vengeance for elia and her children [literally demanding gregor say her name]. which i guess could be pride but it doesn't really fit i think? What do you think?

I just finished watching it! And I wouldn’t really call Oberyn’s death the fault of pride. He didn’t seem to be gloating over Gregor, just ranting in anger in the same way he did in the book. I thought the fight was very true to his character. It was also true to GOT’s “make everything seem awesome until the very last minute” shock value formula, where the viewer was clearly intended to be strung along into thinking that Oberyn would win. So I understand why they wanted to make his defeat come out of nowhere. 

That head-crushing, though… That was painful :( 

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Okay, so my internship is officially over, which means I'll have more time to post now! Sorry for that mini-hiatus. 

In other news, I have my very first ever job interview tomorrow and I feel like passing out just thinking about it. 

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Game of Thrones character w/ emojis (insp. by this and this)

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I've been terrible at posting recently and I'm really sorry about that. I've had an internship this past week, so I haven't had much free time! I finish up with it next Friday. 

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idk if anyone has addressed this question yet but I was going back through the books and I'm wondering why Jakken Haggar was in Kings landing in the first place, and how/why he was captured and put into the dungeons if he's a faceless man? Thoughts?

Oh, yes, there are actually some really interesting theories about that! 

Some background first: So, there’s this book called The Death of Dragons. In ADWD, Tyrion mentions that “the only surviving copy … was supposedly hidden away in a locked vault beneath the Citadel.” It’s pretty much accepted that Jaqen is the Alchemist who kills Pate in AFFC, and then later the Pate who Sam meets at the end of that same book. Pate was killed after giving the Alchemist the key to the Citadel: 

If I pick that up, I am a thief, he remembered thinking. The key was old and heavy, made of black iron; supposedly it opened every door atthe Citadel.

So it’s a solid theory that Jaqen’s entire purpose is the obtain The Death of Dragons, possibly so that the Faceless Men can use the instructions it offers to kill Dany’s dragons (it’s theorized, as well, that the FM are anti-Targaryen because the Valyrians were huge slavers and the FM are very anti-slavery). 

Now, as for why he was in KL and why he was en route to the Night’s Watch: 

"Jaqen H’ghar" could have been in the Black Cells for some reason or another. When he was removed to be transported to the Wall, a Faceless Man took his identity with the intention of getting to the Wall and assassinating someone there. 

Jaqen was actually arrested, maybe for murder, and couldn’t just magic his way out of his cell. So all he could do was wait. 

As a Faceless Man, he needed to kill someone in the Black Cells, so he allowed himself to be arrested and brought there. 

He’s Syrio and Ned and the Prince That Was Promised and also the real Aegon Targaryen. 

Personally, I think that Jaqen wanted to be brought to the Wall so that he could kill someone there, or even see if their library had a copy of The Death of Dragons. But then all that stuff at Harrenhal happened, so he cut his losses and headed out to the Citadel. 

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Watching Br Ba and having a love/hate relationship with Walt (mostly hate). While I understand that many watchers (usually males) love him, I got disappointed with all their Skyler's hate. She's hardly going to be a fanfavorite, but just because you love Walt: what is actually so hateful about Skyler? My conclusion is the fact that she's a threatening character: she has proven to be very strong, smart, fierce and dominant (to Walt). Maybe I'm wrong, but this is how I feel!

You hit the nail on the head. We’re pretty used to seeing the male lead succeed in our hard-hitting dramas, and viewing all of his opposers as bad guys. BrBa has this interesting dynamic with the male lead becoming the villain, with his wife becoming more of a hero. That’s kind of hard for a lot of people to digest because they’re so accustomed to accepting whatever the protagonist does as good. 

Skyler is strong and fierce and completely in the right for most of the show. Some people can’t deal with that. 

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lavender-and-creme replied to your post:lavender-and-creme replied to your post:How do you…

Actually I meant she thought Cersei didn’t love Joffrey. Which is just as bad if not worse. The show botched both relationships to be honest.

Oh gosh,...

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Other than kill ALL THE BABIES?

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True, true. Then there's also the Lady incident. So she's definitely done some terrible things! But on a scale of evilness in ASOIAF, I put her as slightly less evil than Littlefinger and Tywin. 

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lavender-and-creme replied to your post:lavender-and-creme replied to your post:How do you…

Actually I meant she thought Cersei didn’t love Joffrey. Which is just as bad if not worse. The show botched both relationships to be honest.

Oh gosh, sorry. It’s been a few days since I was...

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I think Cersei receives more hate because we actually see her twisted internal dialogue.  Tywin and LF have no POV chapters.

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That's understandable. Though I do think that, objectively, Tywin's and Littlefinger's acts are much worse than Cersei's. Tywin had a teenage girl gang-raped to teach his son a lesson, and Littlefinger was one of the biggest (if not the biggest) instigator in the War of the Five Kings. Cersei, while certainly an odious person, hasn't really done anything to rival that.